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Scuba Forum / General / August 2006Speigel Grove recommendations
Finally looking to hit this site soon. Any recommendations for which operator to use? > Finally looking to hit this site soon. Any recommendations for which > operator to use? I've been out (with several other members of this group) twice in the last year. The next time I go will be with Capt. Slate at: http://www.spiegelgrove.info/ hit the "Diving" link for his home page. It's the same Marina we've always used, without the extra hassle of driving down to the other shop. One of this group's friends used to own the shop, but alas, that is no longer the case. Have fun. Dave. I have dove the Spiegal with Capt Slate for over 25 two tank dives to date and he runs a first class operation with a lot of fun to be had, Give him a shot! >> Finally looking to hit this site soon. Any recommendations for which >> operator to use? [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > >Dave. >I have dove the Spiegal with Capt Slate for over 25 two tank dives to > date and he runs a first class operation with a lot of fun to be had, > Give him a shot! I intend to. Never heard a bad word about their op, and it certainly looked fine when we boarded the other boat right next door. I do like Capt. AJ though. LD. >>> Finally looking to hit this site soon. Any recommendations for which >>> operator to use? [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >> >>Dave. >I have dove the Spiegal with Capt Slate for over 25 two tank dives to > date and he runs a first class operation with a lot of fun to be had, > Give him a shot! I've been out on Spencer's boat several times. He's a first class character who makes trips he attends more fun by his presence. On the other hand, he seems to prefer sites that, well, sites I would not, personally chose. I'd certainly do the Grove with him, but would not recommend his operation for reef diving unless he, personally, will be aboard. Lee FULLY concur with Lee. He hit the nail ont he head. If you want a more intimate (6-pack) for the Spiegal/Duane go with Island Ventures! >>I have dove the Spiegal with Capt Slate for over 25 two tank dives to >> date and he runs a first class operation with a lot of fun to be had, [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > >Lee >>I have dove the Spiegal with Capt Slate for over 25 two tank dives to >> date and he runs a first class operation with a lot of fun to be had, [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > recommend his operation for reef diving unless he, personally, will be > aboard. Chances are, if I dive down there again I'll be with someone with this kind of experience. ;0) LD. 6 pack is best. Also, shortest distance is from the Holiday Inn/Marina Del Mar area. Ocean Divers (larger boats but near Marina Del Mar) There are 2 good 6 packs from the back of the holiday Inn. (Can't place the names) Also if you are diving Nitrox, make sure the boat allows you to stay down for your NDC limit and not the air limit. Remember... if you go Nitrox, you will probably not be able to get to the bottom BUT most of the dive can be done < 100ft (Bottom 135') It takes 3-5 dives just to see the outside and the upper decks. First dive I like to take people around the outside, across the crane and back up the otherside. Go to the bridge and the bow... That will be the dive.. Have fun. 50-50 chance of bad current and if you are an advanced diver and a strong swimmer, expect a 20% cancellation rate. (50-50 for a normal swimmer) > Finally looking to hit this site soon. Any recommendations for which > operator to use? > Also if you are diving Nitrox, make sure the boat allows you to stay down > for your NDC limit and not the air limit. Remember... if you go Nitrox, > you will probably not be able to get to the bottom BUT most of the dive > can be done < 100ft (Bottom 135') I got to the bottom on nitrox. What's so hard about that, or am I just really special? > 50-50 chance of bad current and if you are an advanced diver and a strong > swimmer, expect a 20% cancellation rate. (50-50 for a normal swimmer) Do they test your swimming abilities before deciding to cancel? > > Also if you are diving Nitrox, make sure the boat allows you to stay down > > for your NDC limit and not the air limit. Remember... if you go Nitrox, [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > I got to the bottom on nitrox. What's so hard about that, or am I just > really special? To the bottom (135fsw) on Nitrox (32%) would result in a 1.6 PPO2. > > 50-50 chance of bad current and if you are an advanced diver and a strong > > swimmer, expect a 20% cancellation rate. (50-50 for a normal swimmer) > > Do they test your swimming abilities before deciding to cancel? Its 'lowest common denominator', which is where the smaller 6-pack boat can play a factor. -hh >> > Also if you are diving Nitrox, make sure the boat allows you to stay >> > down [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > To the bottom (135fsw) on Nitrox (32%) would result in a 1.6 PPO2. Warm water dive with no real exertion required. Normal in my book. LD. > Warm water dive with no real exertion required. Awh, come on, you don't consider hanging on the line flapping like a flag in the breeze due to the current 'exertion'? <grin> Hell, my elbow was sore enough after that dive that I had to drink left handed... >> Warm water dive with no real exertion required. > > Awh, come on, you don't consider hanging on the line flapping like a > flag in the breeze due to the current 'exertion'? <grin> Nope, not at all. and I'm out of shape. > Hell, my elbow was sore enough after that dive that I had to drink > left handed... well, it's a good thing that like me, you're a seasoned drinker and ambidextrous at that. ;0) LD. >> > Also if you are diving Nitrox, make sure the boat allows you to stay >> > down [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > To the bottom (135fsw) on Nitrox (32%) would result in a 1.6 PPO2. I hit 140. I didn't hit a 1.6. I must be really special. > Its 'lowest common denominator', which is where the smaller 6-pack boat > can play a factor. I'm sure glad they didn't test our boat before taking us there. Amateurs like Lee and Curtis who couldn't even make it back to the boat without being rescued would have made Capt. PADI abort for sure. > I'm sure glad they didn't test our boat before taking us there. Amateurs > like Lee and Curtis who couldn't even make it back to the boat without > being rescued would have made Capt. PADI abort for sure. I'm glad that like a true newbie, you turned around and exited same line instead of trying the traverse....... >> I'm sure glad they didn't test our boat before taking us there. Amateurs >> like Lee and Curtis who couldn't even make it back to the boat without >> being rescued would have made Capt. PADI abort for sure. > > I'm glad that like a true newbie, you turned around and exited same > line instead of trying the traverse....... After we got lost on the first dive? Hell no. We spent the entire second dive within arm's length of that line. > I hit 140. I didn't hit a 1.6. I must be really special. Not so special. I hit 141 and didn't hit 1.6 either. Lee > To the bottom (135fsw) on Nitrox (32%) would result in a 1.6 PPO2. Which tends to explain why I was using .28%. Lee >>To the bottom (135fsw) on Nitrox (32%) would result in a 1.6 PPO2. > > Which tends to explain why I was using .28%. .28%??? Now that ain't very much. > >>To the bottom (135fsw) on Nitrox (32%) would result in a 1.6 PPO2. > > > > Which tends to explain why I was using .28%. > > > .28%??? Now that ain't very much. No kidding! I usually like at least 21%. > > To the bottom (135fsw) on Nitrox (32%) would result in a 1.6 PPO2. > > Which tends to explain why I was using .28%. Were you wearing a banana on your head too? ;^) >> > To the bottom (135fsw) on Nitrox (32%) would result in a 1.6 PPO2. >> [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > ;^) No. That's a Canadian thing. Lee > >> > To the bottom (135fsw) on Nitrox (32%) would result in a 1.6 PPO2. > >> [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > No. That's a Canadian thing. Typos are exclusively a Canadian thing? >> >> > To the bottom (135fsw) on Nitrox (32%) would result in a 1.6 PPO2. >> >> [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Typos are exclusively a Canadian thing? No. >> Also if you are diving Nitrox, make sure the boat allows you to stay down >> for your NDC limit and not the air limit. Remember... if you go [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > I got to the bottom on nitrox. What's so hard about that, or am I just > really special? Well, not for *that* reason. ;0) LD. > >> Also if you are diving Nitrox, make sure the boat allows you to stay down > >> for your NDC limit and not the air limit. Remember... if you go [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Well, not for *that* reason. ;0) LOL I tried these guys, very happy with them... http://www.rainbowreef.us/ > Finally looking to hit this site soon. Any recommendations for which > operator to use? > Finally looking to hit this site soon. Any recommendations for which > operator to use? We dove for a good while with Tavernier Dive Center, but as I now look at the website, I'm not so sure that Mine has not sold it. Does anyone know? He was awesome; but if he sold, I have no clue what's up with their charters. * >Finally looking to hit this site soon. Any recommendations for which >operator to use? (my opinion) Crystal Clear Charters--two locations, one in key largo the other in tavernier. i've dove the grove three trips this year with these folks--they are professionals! nice boats and great crews. |
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