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Very Basic And Stupid Question About BCDs

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Fred Mann - 30 Jul 2006 20:14 GMT
Hello,
I have a ProSub BCD that I want to sell on eBay, but there is a leak around
the pull-string valve (not sure of the correct name). It looks like the
rubber gasket is leaky. It still holds air for a while though. Is this
sellable?
Also, what about other small leaks? I am not a scuba diver, but I imagine
perfect air-tightness is not necessary, as long as the air holds through the
dive. Is this correct?
Thanks,
Fred
David In NH - 30 Jul 2006 20:38 GMT
> Hello,
> I have a ProSub BCD that I want to sell on eBay, but there is a leak
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> Thanks,
> Fred

I'm reluctant to answer since this might be a troll, but what the hell, it's
a nice day and I'm in a good mood....

Any leak in a BCD (remember that "BCD" stands for "Life Support Equipment")
would be a bad thing. Yes, it wouldn't necessarily have to be air-tight to
make it through a dive but I wouldn't want to start a dive knowing the BCD
had a problem. (If a small leak was found during the dive, I might continue
the dive (not likely) but I'd get the unit fixed or replaced.

Anybody who'd buy this would be foolish (unless you didn't tell them about
the leaks in which case you'd be defrauding them.)

Get it fixed or don't try to sell it.
Joe English - 30 Jul 2006 23:53 GMT
>>Hello,
>>I have a ProSub BCD that I want to sell on eBay, but there is a leak
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
>
> Any leak in a BCD (remember that "BCD" stands for "Life Support Equipment")

And here I though BCD stood for Buoyancy Compensator Device.  Maybe they
should have called it an LSE instead of BCD
David In NH - 31 Jul 2006 01:40 GMT
>> Any leak in a BCD (remember that "BCD" stands for "Life Support
>> Equipment")
>
> And here I though BCD stood for Buoyancy Compensator Device.  Maybe they
> should have called it an LSE instead of BCD

I assumed everyone would get the point. Sorry if I was wrong.
Joe English - 31 Jul 2006 01:52 GMT
>>>Any leak in a BCD (remember that "BCD" stands for "Life Support
>>>Equipment")
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> I assumed everyone would get the point. Sorry if I was wrong.

I can get pretty dense - no offense intended :-) (yea -- right)
Some Random Dude - 01 Aug 2006 02:49 GMT
>>>Hello,
>>>I have a ProSub BCD that I want to sell on eBay, but there is a leak
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
>And here I though BCD stood for Buoyancy Compensator Device.  Maybe they
>should have called it an LSE instead of BCD

What about Life Support Device? then the rapture of the deep or any
narcing you get would be due to the use of LSD
:D
Grumman-581 - 30 Jul 2006 21:46 GMT
> Also, what about other small leaks? I am not a scuba diver, but I imagine
> perfect air-tightness is not necessary, as long as the air holds through the
> dive. Is this correct?

In other words, you got it at a garage sale... How much did you end up
spending on it?  Depending upon what you've got into it, it may or may
not be cost effective to fix it...
Fred Mann - 30 Jul 2006 22:57 GMT
> > Also, what about other small leaks? I am not a scuba diver, but I imagine
> > perfect air-tightness is not necessary, as long as the air holds through the
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> spending on it?  Depending upon what you've got into it, it may or may
> not be cost effective to fix it...

I bought this item and a Luxfer tank for $70 at Salvation Army a couple of
years ago. I sold the tank for $75, so I'm at break-even now. I just want to
get rid of it. I assume a repaired BCD could fetch approx $75 if I show the
repair invoice in the listing. Of course this is a little bit too much work
for me considering the price, so I may just toss it. How much does it
usually cost to repair these things?
Thanks again!!
Fred
(not a troll)
barnegatdx@aol.com - 31 Jul 2006 01:44 GMT
> I bought this item and a Luxfer tank for $70 at Salvation Army a couple of
> years ago. I sold the tank for $75, so I'm at break-even now. I just want to
> get rid of it. I assume a repaired BCD could fetch approx $75 if I show the
> repair invoice in the listing. Of course this is a little bit too much work
> for me considering the price, so I may just toss it. How much does it
> usually cost to repair these things?

Think Ozone and general Rot settle into BCD's after ten or so years ;

wherby all the rubberish parts start to fail . . .

Take it down to a LDS and get it assessed;

Else just throw it out.
Geoff - 31 Jul 2006 03:01 GMT
>Take it down to a LDS and get it assessed;

In this case LDS stands for "Local Dive Shop" and not a person of any
particular religious persuasion. :)
Scott - 31 Jul 2006 03:05 GMT
> >Take it down to a LDS and get it assessed;
>
> In this case LDS stands for "Local Dive Shop" and not a person of any
> particular religious persuasion. :)

Is that Bony Maroni or Holy Macaroni?
Scott - 31 Jul 2006 03:02 GMT
> Think Ozone and general Rot settle into BCD's after ten or so years ;
>
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> Else just throw it out.

Good advice.
Scott - 31 Jul 2006 03:03 GMT
> I bought this item and a Luxfer tank for $70 at Salvation Army a couple of
> years ago. I sold the tank for $75, so I'm at break-even now. I just want to
> get rid of it. I assume a repaired BCD could fetch approx $75 if I show the
> repair invoice in the listing. Of course this is a little bit too much work
> for me considering the price, so I may just toss it. How much does it
> usually cost to repair these things?

How much is someones life worth?

How much is someones vacation worth?

How much is your reputation worth?
Joe English - 30 Jul 2006 23:52 GMT
> Hello,
> I have a ProSub BCD that I want to sell on eBay, but there is a leak around
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> Thanks,
> Fred

I don't think I'd be interested
mike gray - 31 Jul 2006 03:24 GMT
> Hello,
> I have a ProSub BCD that I want to sell on eBay, but there is a leak around
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> Thanks,
> Fred

The perfect BC leaks air at exactly the same rate that tank
weight is reduced, about 8 pints/hour.
Magilla - 31 Jul 2006 03:39 GMT
> The perfect BC leaks air at exactly the same rate that tank weight is
> reduced, about 8 pints/hour.

   Mike, I expect a tall glass of iced tea to replace the one I just rinsed
my keyboard with next time I'm south.

Curtis
Charlie Hammond - 31 Jul 2006 19:03 GMT
>Hello,
>I have a ProSub BCD that I want to sell on eBay, but there is a leak around
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>perfect air-tightness is not necessary, as long as the air holds through the
>dive. Is this correct?

Based on what you say here, I doubt that it is safe to dive the BC as-is.
Based on the age stated elswhere, it is not worth repairing.

If you choose to sell this, some would question yor morality.

Junk it.

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RayC - 01 Aug 2006 00:24 GMT
> Hello,
> I have a ProSub BCD that I want to sell on eBay, but there is a leak around
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> Thanks,
> Fred

If it leaks air, it isn't doing it's job.  It might be worth a couple of
dollars for hardware value (buckles, inflater, backpack, etc.). But some
nimnal would probably try to use it so it wouldn't be smart to sell it
on eBay. Take it to a dive shop and see if they have any interest in it.
 If not, chop it up before you toss it in the trash.

Just my $.02
 
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