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Glory in the Florida Lobster Mini - Season
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bullshark - 27 Jul 2006 13:57 GMT Three dead already http://tinyurl.com/prsv6
Every year it kills at least one. It's the stupidest marketing gimmick ever devised.
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Don - 27 Jul 2006 22:40 GMT > Three dead already http://tinyurl.com/prsv6 > > Every year it kills at least one. It's the stupidest marketing gimmick > ever devised. > > bullshark Typical floridans.
Popeye - 28 Jul 2006 00:52 GMT > Three dead already http://tinyurl.com/prsv6 > > Every year it kills at least one. It's the stupidest marketing gimmick > ever devised. "The identity of the Coconut Grove woman, 66, is being withheld until her family is notified. She was diving for lobsters with a group of people. Herrin said investigators are still trying to determine how she died."
What's yer point?
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dazed and confuzzed - 28 Jul 2006 01:54 GMT >>Three dead already http://tinyurl.com/prsv6 >> [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > -My- 65yr old Grandmother died asleep on the couch. Damn straight
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bullshark - 28 Jul 2006 22:18 GMT > What's yer point? Every year, thousands of divers that hardly ever dive, go out and poach and take shorts and kill sh.t. It seems that diving is just no fun for these people unless they are killing sh.t.
The FWCC, which is undermanned in the middle of January can't hope to enforce any regulations during this kill-fest of reef destruction. It's advertised nationwide and dive clubs descend on FL from all over the country, inevitably returning to show
It seems that diving is just no fun for these people unless they are killing sh.t.
It is inevitable that some of them die, because they don't dive enough to be safe.
The woman, BTW, died in the boat. Her children and grandchildren may not be as thrilled as you are with her demise, or it's circumstances. They might just prefer that she stayed at home and remained alive today.
The Count is up to four + 1 missing now, and none of them would have died had it not been for the stupid, stupid mini-season. The regular season starts tomorrow.
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/local/southflorida/sfl-clobster28jul28,0,123524 4.story?coll=sfla-news-sfla
Meanwhile there have been numerous propellor injuries of people being run over by boats.
All this to kill and damage the reef and its inhabitants.
Spiny lobsters taste like sh.t anyway. They, like Escargot, serve only as a medium for transport large amounts of saturated fats and garlic. Once frozen, they are totally tasteless and have the texture of rubber tires.
The afficionados just like to kill sh.t, and torture it in the bargain. The grand climax for all bug-lovers, is wrenching the tails off the living animals, breaking off an antenna and shoving it up their a.s to pull out the intestines.
The heads and bodies are still alive and usually just tossed into the water to die a slow agonizing death as what remains of their flesh is picked at by crabs and other small fish.
Really swell stuff.
Popeye - 28 Jul 2006 22:48 GMT >> What's yer point? > > Every year, thousands of divers that hardly ever dive, go out and poach > and take shorts and kill sh.t. It seems that diving is just no fun for > these people unless they are killing sh.t. That doesn't make them bad people, does it?
> The FWCC, which is undermanned in the middle of January can't hope to > enforce any regulations during this kill-fest of reef destruction. It's [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > It is inevitable that some of them die, because they don't dive enough > to be safe. Nice to cull the herd from time to time.
> The woman, BTW, died in the boat. Her children and grandchildren may > not be as thrilled as you are with her demise, or it's circumstances. > They might just prefer that she stayed at home and remained alive > today. Then was it a diving related death at all?
Did she, like, forget to take her gear off after she got out, or something, and OOA?
> The Count is up to four + 1 missing now, and none of them would have > died had it not been for the stupid, stupid mini-season. The regular > season starts tomorrow. Beats dying on the putting green.
> http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/local/southflorida/sfl-clobster28jul28,0,123524 4.story?coll=sfla-news-sfla > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Spiny lobsters taste like sh.t anyway. Give yours to me, then.
I like 'em just fine.
> They, like Escargot, serve only > as a medium for transport large amounts of saturated fats and garlic. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > water to die a slow agonizing death as what remains of their flesh is > picked at by crabs and other small fish. Uh, how do they usually die?
> Really swell stuff. Can't wait till next year.
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Scott - 28 Jul 2006 23:53 GMT <chop>
> Uh, how do they usually die? In bed, with a mimosa.
> > Really swell stuff. > > Can't wait till next year. Love to stay and chat, but I have to go diving.
Crab season is open, and I am going to dive for some (with my BP and wing, with double LP 95's), take them alive, pack them together into a catch bag, bring them to the surface, against their will, keep them alive for a short while in a big cooler full of salt water until I get them to my house.
Normally, most people just chuck them in the boiling water live. To be killed and tortured at the same time they are cooked, I guess they must like it that way.
Me, a more merciful and intellectual being, don't so them in such a hideous way.
I turn 'em over, punch a hole in their sternum, which kills them instantly, rip their backs off, bust the body of the crab into two pieces, rip their gills off, rip their lips off, shake their guts out into a bucket (which we return to the sea along with the shells and remaining flesh to be feasted upon by other fish and bugs), rinse them under cold running water, and *then* chuck them into the boiling water.
Then, we serve them with a nice salad made of local stuff grown in the run-off and flood plains of the Olympic foothills, sourdough toast with garlic and gorgonzola butter, and various things to dip them in such as rooster sauce, habanera sauce, a delightful sauce made with horseradish and Walla Walla onion mustard, and <gasp> melted butter and garlic.
They don't scream, no one dies, and as I have always said, you can have my issue of all them rubbery ole lobster butts, I'll take the dungies.
Clifford Beshers - 29 Jul 2006 19:23 GMT > Me, a more merciful and intellectual being, don't so them in such a hideous > way. If you wanted to do them justice, you would just eat them live, like a wolf eel.
Scott - 30 Jul 2006 00:16 GMT > If you wanted to do them justice, you would just eat them live, like a > wolf eel. Take a good look at the scars on a wolf eels face.
Saw three mating pairs of wolfies this morning, along with some lightbulb tunicates (1st time ever in the area we were diving, and only in one spot), and another first was watching some pile perch munching on barnacles.
The vermillion rockfish were in big numbers, and there was a hatch of somekind that made the dive look like swimming through clouds of mosquitos.
These gents have put together an excellent photo gallery of typical PNW underwater life.
http://www.seaotter.com/index.html
Al Wells - 30 Jul 2006 01:05 GMT > Saw three mating pairs of wolfies this morning, along with some lightbulb > tunicates (1st time ever in the area we were diving, and only in one spot), > and another first was watching some pile perch munching on barnacles. how long is the crab season?
Scott - 30 Jul 2006 03:58 GMT > > Saw three mating pairs of wolfies this morning, along with some lightbulb > > tunicates (1st time ever in the area we were diving, and only in one spot), > > and another first was watching some pile perch munching on barnacles. > > how long is the crab season? Through labor day, but the open days during the week vary.
Clifford Beshers - 30 Jul 2006 06:22 GMT >> If you wanted to do them justice, you would just eat them live, like a >> wolf eel. > > Take a good look at the scars on a wolf eels face. What I remember is Jerome's description of the crab pinning the cat in the corner of the kitchen. At that point I figured it would be best never to my back on a dungeness.
Clifford Beshers - 30 Jul 2006 06:36 GMT >>> If you wanted to do them justice, you would just eat them live, like a >>> wolf eel. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > the corner of the kitchen. At that point I figured it would be best > never to my back on a dungeness. Sorry, 'turn my back' is what I meant there.
Okidiver - 31 Jul 2006 00:27 GMT Man, I'm jealous (back spasms have temporarily landed me). What's the water temp out there these days? Since I can't go diving this weekend, I ordered a dry suit. When it gets here I'm gonna go jump in Vortex and try it out.
How's the shell collecting out there? Dead shell collecting, of course...
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>> If you wanted to do them justice, you would just eat them live, like a >> wolf eel. [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > http://www.seaotter.com/index.html Scott - 31 Jul 2006 03:00 GMT > Man, I'm jealous (back spasms have temporarily landed me). Dont be, come on out and dig the goods.
> What's the water temp out there these days? Top 56 to 68, bottom 48 or so.
I have been diving a 7mm Farmer John.
> Since I can't go diving this weekend, I ordered > a dry suit. When it gets here I'm gonna go jump in Vortex and try it out.
> How's the shell collecting out there? Dead shell collecting, of course... It's cheaper in every way to buy them from a few local connects.
Okidiver - 02 Aug 2006 02:05 GMT >> What's the water temp out there these days? > > Top 56 to 68, bottom 48 or so. > > I have been diving a 7mm Farmer John. 48 friggin degrees in a wetsuit?! Pissin' yourself never felt so good, I'd guess...;-)
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Scott - 02 Aug 2006 02:16 GMT > 48 friggin degrees in a wetsuit?! Pissin' yourself never felt so good, I'd > guess...;-) Nah, it aint that bad.
People scared of cold water rip themselves off.
Carl Nisarel - 02 Aug 2006 01:25 GMT rec.scuba's resident pussy "Scott" <pugetsounddiver@gmail.com>, whined:
> "Okidiver" <okidiver@cox.net> wrote in message > >> 48 friggin degrees in a wetsuit?! Pissin' yourself never >> felt so good,
> Nah, it aint that bad. You'd know, Scotty. You piss your pants on a regular basis.
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Scott - 28 Jul 2006 23:40 GMT > What's yer point? <chop>
> Really swell stuff. You should talk to the DNC.
They could use a guy like you in their bid for the presidency in the next election.
Your anger, rabid bigotry, deductive reasoning leading to preposterous suppositions, and simply, your way with words would fit right in with their program.
bullshark - 29 Jul 2006 18:45 GMT > Your anger, rabid bigotry, deductive reasoning leading to preposterous > suppositions, and simply, your way with words would fit right in with their > program. That's the nicest thing you've ever said to me.
Scott - 29 Jul 2006 23:43 GMT > > Your anger, rabid bigotry, deductive reasoning leading to preposterous > > suppositions, and simply, your way with words would fit right in with their > > program. > > That's the nicest thing you've ever said to me. Dont let it go to your head.
mike gray - 29 Jul 2006 01:46 GMT >> What's yer point? > [quoted text clipped - 44 lines] > > Really swell stuff. And they really like to kill sh.t.
Unfortunately, I missed my annual day-after-mini-season new gear collecting trip. Was hoping for a snare (I really like to kill sh.t) or two and maybe a new mask. Oh well, maybe there will be some gear left Sunday morning.
TonyP - 29 Jul 2006 21:01 GMT >> What's yer point? > [quoted text clipped - 44 lines] > > Really swell stuff. I have never been there for it, nor plan on in the future. The lobsters we take, we eat. Not hordes, there is a limit of 6. And with the dive population here in the North East being as small as it is, the impact on lobsters or fish in general is nowhere near as great. And, we don't lose people to greed of the season. And about the taste of those spiny's, they are tasteless and will taste like rubber when frozen. I can see the reefs getting pounded while someone tries to snare a lobster.
Scott - 28 Jul 2006 03:04 GMT > Three dead already http://tinyurl.com/prsv6 > > Every year it kills at least one. It's the stupidest marketing gimmick > ever devised. That's what you get for living in a stinking, lizard and self-absorbed-a.shole infested shithole like Florida, and catching scrawny bugs with only butt meat.
Grumman-581 - 28 Jul 2006 03:32 GMT > That's what you get for living in a stinking, lizard and > self-absorbed-a.shole infested shithole like Florida, and catching scrawny > bugs with only butt meat. Florida wouldn't be that bad if they could manage to deport the damn Yankees that keep wanting to retire there... Yeah, there's the occasional hurricane each month or so, but that just gives it a bit more character... As far as the lizards (i.e. gators) go, they just make the fresh water diving so much more interesting... They also make body disposal so much easier since they also digest the bones... Up where you're at, the crabs just pick the meat off the bones...
Chris - 28 Jul 2006 04:19 GMT > Florida wouldn't be that bad if they could manage to deport the damn > Yankees that keep wanting to retire there... Yeah, there's the > occasional hurricane each month or so, but that just gives it a bit No matter where you live, you have to deal with Mother Nature in some form. Earthquakes, raging wildfires, tornadoes, hurricanes, blizzards - you're not "safe" anywhere. The nice thing about hurricanes (if there is such a thing) is that you get many days notice it's coming. That, and they tend to scare the bejesus out of Yankees... :)
a native, Chris
John Hanson - 28 Jul 2006 04:38 GMT >> That's what you get for living in a stinking, lizard and >> self-absorbed-a.shole infested shithole like Florida, and catching scrawny [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >body disposal so much easier since they also digest the bones... Up >where you're at, the crabs just pick the meat off the bones... I'll be booking my flight to Florida for next month, tomorrow. My buddy in Titusville is starting his OW training Tuesday. We'll be going bug hunting in less than a month.
Popeye - 28 Jul 2006 06:31 GMT > I'll be booking my flight to Florida for next month, tomorrow. My > buddy in Titusville is starting his OW training Tuesday. We'll be > going bug hunting in less than a month. When & Where?
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John Hanson - 28 Jul 2006 14:06 GMT >> I'll be booking my flight to Florida for next month, tomorrow. My >> buddy in Titusville is starting his OW training Tuesday. We'll be >> going bug hunting in less than a month. > > When & Where? I'll be flying down around the 24th and leaving around the 29th. We were definitely going to the Keys but I want to dive West Palm Beach one day while I'm down there. I have to talk to Mike again today to finalize everything.
Popeye - 28 Jul 2006 14:30 GMT >>> I'll be booking my flight to Florida for next month, tomorrow. My >>> buddy in Titusville is starting his OW training Tuesday. We'll be [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > one day while I'm down there. I have to talk to Mike again today to > finalize everything. Keep me posted on that.
It's time for you to try a BP/W.
John Hanson - 28 Jul 2006 15:15 GMT >>>> I'll be booking my flight to Florida for next month, tomorrow. My >>>> buddy in Titusville is starting his OW training Tuesday. We'll be [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Keep me posted on that. Will do.
> It's time for you to try a BP/W. Some of the guys on the Lake Superior dive were using Halcyon BP/W.
Popeye - 28 Jul 2006 21:54 GMT >>>>> I'll be booking my flight to Florida for next month, tomorrow. My >>>>> buddy in Titusville is starting his OW training Tuesday. We'll be [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] >> > Some of the guys on the Lake Superior dive were using Halcyon BP/W. If ya squint, mine looks like that.
Scott - 28 Jul 2006 04:48 GMT > Florida wouldn't be that bad if they could manage to deport the damn > Yankees that keep wanting to retire there... Yeah, there's the [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > body disposal so much easier since they also digest the bones... Up > where you're at, the crabs just pick the meat off the bones... And then the bacterial and microbial entities make short work of the bones.
But, there are also lots of hog farms around...
mike gray - 28 Jul 2006 05:00 GMT >>Three dead already http://tinyurl.com/prsv6 >> [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > self-absorbed-a.shole infested shithole like Florida, and catching scrawny > bugs with only butt meat. I guess that's what the tourists like about it.
Scott - 28 Jul 2006 05:13 GMT > I guess that's what the tourists like about it. I guess so, we sure dont get any here.
chilly - 28 Jul 2006 05:44 GMT > >>Three dead already http://tinyurl.com/prsv6 > >> [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > I guess that's what the tourists like about it. The tourists like your butt meat?
Scott - 29 Jul 2006 03:20 GMT > The tourists like your butt meat? Like you cant imagine.
More than they like yours.
TonyP - 28 Jul 2006 21:08 GMT >>Three dead already http://tinyurl.com/prsv6 >> >>Every year it kills at least one. It's the stupidest marketing gimmick >>ever devised.
> That's what you get for living in a stinking, lizard and > self-absorbed-a.shole infested shithole like Florida, and catching scrawny > bugs with only butt meat. Yeah!! Only butt meat! And no claws to fight back. You gotta try the lobsters up here (NY/NJ). They have claws and fight back and don't cluster under some piece of coral head or sumptin'. These hide... deep in pieces of wreckage. You have to actually hunt for 'em. And, they taste better too!
Scott - 28 Jul 2006 21:23 GMT > >>Three dead already http://tinyurl.com/prsv6 > >> [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > in pieces of wreckage. You have to actually hunt for 'em. And, they > taste better too! Ping me offline, I have a picture for you.
Some Random Dude - 28 Jul 2006 22:51 GMT >>>Three dead already http://tinyurl.com/prsv6 >>> [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >in pieces of wreckage. You have to actually hunt for 'em. And, they >taste better too! I'll go for Crayfish here in NZ... Spiny Rock Lobster they hide in cracks and wedges and are easiest to find at night.
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