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Chuck - 28 Jun 2006 04:23 GMT
I received OW cert about 3 weeks ago.  A local dive club was at the shop and
I got on thier mailing list.  I'm going on the first beach dive with this
group on Sat morning.  A bit concerned cause I don't want to slow anybody
down or have someone take a shorter then normal trip since I'm sure I'll be
sucking air like it's going out of style.  As long as I let people know my
exp / comfort levels should I be overly concerned?
Lee Bell - 28 Jun 2006 04:40 GMT
>I received OW cert about 3 weeks ago.  A local dive club was at the shop
>and I got on thier mailing list.  I'm going on the first beach dive with
>this group on Sat morning.  A bit concerned cause I don't want to slow
>anybody down or have someone take a shorter then normal trip since I'm sure
>I'll be sucking air like it's going out of style.  As long as I let people
>know my exp / comfort levels should I be overly concerned?

Probably not, but it depends on the club, its members and the nature of the
dive they are planning.  Most clubs are used to newer dives and accommodate
them.  Unless this is an advanced dive, in which case you might chose to
wait for another time, you should be fine.

My suggestion is contact someone in authority in the club, an officer, for
example, and discuss the issue with them.  They are in a position to advise
you relative to the nature of the dive, how they deal with the needs of
newer divers and what their buddy policies are.  Unless you have a trusted
buddy of your own, make arrangements in advance.  Don't assume you'll find a
compatible buddy.  Be sure of it.

If this dive turns out to be something you're not comfortable with, join the
club, get to know people in it and make your own arrangements for dives that
suit your skills until you are comfortable doing divers planned by others.
If it is for you, relax and enjoy it for however long you can before it's
time to head back to shore.  The more relaxed you are, the longer your dive
is likely to be.

Lee
Popeye - 28 Jun 2006 10:15 GMT
>I received OW cert about 3 weeks ago.  A local dive club was at the shop
>and I got on thier mailing list.  I'm going on the first beach dive with
>this group on Sat morning.  A bit concerned cause I don't want to slow
>anybody down or have someone take a shorter then normal trip since I'm sure
>I'll be sucking air like it's going out of style.  As long as I let people
>know my exp / comfort levels should I be overly concerned?

 What Lee said, and, ask if there's anything particular you should bring,
i.e., gear (maybe rent a bigger tank, or extra weight), refreshments, lunch
(cooler), beach size towels, ect, or about dinner plans after, like that.

 Our "beach dives", while at the quarry, turn into quite the social event.

 Also, if you haven't done a beach dive, think about how you're going to
get yourself back into dry clothes, and your gear clean and stowed.

 We're all new once, and for a while, don't sweat it.

 If they're worth a damn, they'll help out.

 If not, we'll be here.

 Welcome to Rec.scuba.

 (Some one will get around to insulting you).

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longshot - 28 Jun 2006 17:17 GMT
>>I received OW cert about 3 weeks ago.  A local dive club was at the shop
>>and I got on thier mailing list.  I'm going on the first beach dive with
>>this group on Sat morning.  A bit concerned cause I don't want to slow
>>anybody down or have someone take a shorter then normal trip since I'm
>>sure I'll be sucking air like it's going out of style.  As long as I let
>>people know my exp / comfort levels should I be overly concerned?

new guys are always supposed to bring beer
Popeye - 28 Jun 2006 17:45 GMT
>>>I received OW cert about 3 weeks ago.  A local dive club was at the shop
>>>and I got on thier mailing list.  I'm going on the first beach dive with
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> new guys are always supposed to bring beer

 Which would be swell, but, may not be welcome in some places
(definitely -not- speaking for myself).

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Dennis (Icarus) - 28 Jun 2006 18:27 GMT
> >>>I received OW cert about 3 weeks ago.  A local dive club was at the shop
> >>>and I got on thier mailing list.  I'm going on the first beach dive with
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>   Which would be swell, but, may not be welcome in some places
> (definitely -not- speaking for myself).

How about Patron Silver Tequila?

Dennis
Popeye - 28 Jun 2006 22:58 GMT
>> "longshot" <longshot@aol.com> wrote in message

>> > new guys are always supposed to bring beer
>>
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>
> Dennis

 Let's not turn this into a moral conundrum.
Dennis (Icarus) - 29 Jun 2006 05:09 GMT
> >> "longshot" <longshot@aol.com> wrote in message
>
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>
>   Let's not turn this into a moral conundrum.

Agreed.

Dennis
Dillon Pyron - 29 Jun 2006 04:48 GMT
>>I received OW cert about 3 weeks ago.  A local dive club was at the shop
>>and I got on thier mailing list.  I'm going on the first beach dive with
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>i.e., gear (maybe rent a bigger tank, or extra weight), refreshments, lunch
>(cooler), beach size towels, ect, or about dinner plans after, like that.

A good dive club is half social and half diving and three quarters
bullshit.

>  Our "beach dives", while at the quarry, turn into quite the social event.

Our "beach dives" at the lake usually take the form of 15-20 people
diving, 2 or 3 dog sitters, a couple of people getting the grills
started and one person watching out for the park ranger or sheriff's
deputy.

>  Also, if you haven't done a beach dive, think about how you're going to
>get yourself back into dry clothes, and your gear clean and stowed.

You'll always find wet gear in a wet car.

>  We're all new once, and for a while, don't sweat it.
>
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>
>  (Some one will get around to insulting you).
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SpringDiver - 28 Jun 2006 11:33 GMT
>I received OW cert about 3 weeks ago.  A local dive club was at the shop and
>I got on thier mailing list.  I'm going on the first beach dive with this
>group on Sat morning.  A bit concerned cause I don't want to slow anybody
>down or have someone take a shorter then normal trip since I'm sure I'll be
>sucking air like it's going out of style.  As long as I let people know my
>exp / comfort levels should I be overly concerned?

I second Lee and Popeye. Go for it and have a great time. Remember,
everyone got certified 3 weeks ago at one time. One thing I've
learned: Most divers have  empathy for one another.

Wayne
Charlie Hammond - 28 Jun 2006 13:57 GMT
In article <ACmog.2515$NP4.886@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net>,
"Chuck" <PANTS_thresher2@earthlink.net> writes:  

>I received OW cert about 3 weeks ago.  A local dive club was at the shop and
>I got on thier mailing list.  I'm going on the first beach dive with this
>group on Sat morning.  A bit concerned cause I don't want to slow anybody
>down or have someone take a shorter then normal trip since I'm sure I'll be
>sucking air like it's going out of style.  As long as I let people know my
>exp / comfort levels should I be overly concerned?

Proably no reason for concern, but I suggest you talk to the person from
the dive club that is organizing the dive.  Let them know your concern.

Also, unless there are shower facilities -- or at least a hose at the beach,
you will return home with salty, sandy gear.  Be prepared to rinse it as
soon as you get home.  (You can ask the dive coodinator about this, too.)

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Star - 28 Jun 2006 15:18 GMT
And if you really want to make friends fast, bring food to share.

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Lee Bell - 28 Jun 2006 16:38 GMT
> And if you really want to make friends fast, bring food to share.

Cookies works.  I like double stuff Oreos or anything else with a chocolate
flavor.  Cantaloupe also seems to do very well between or after dives.

If you bring beer, bring something else as well and watch to see what others
are doing before you pop the first top.  Some clubs are fine with an after
dive beer, some aren't.  Be sure you know which you're with before you open
the first one.

Lee
Star - 28 Jun 2006 17:23 GMT
> > And if you really want to make friends fast, bring food to share.
>
> Cookies works.  I like double stuff Oreos or anything else with a chocolate
> flavor.

Oreos have the added advantage of rendering one's saliva into a
particularly effective defog.  A nice mask flood and clear as you
descend will rinse away any spare crumbs.

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Popeye - 28 Jun 2006 17:46 GMT
>> > And if you really want to make friends fast, bring food to share.
>>
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>
> *

 That brings back horrifying memories....

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Rod - 29 Jun 2006 02:13 GMT
>>> > And if you really want to make friends fast, bring food to share.
>>>
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>
>  That brings back horrifying memories....

bring a jar of peanut butter and some apples and celery, screw the
silver get the reposado, or a bottle of Herradura. As to the dive,
prepair and hit the water first, swim out to the drop point and then
wait for everyone else and your buddy, that way you can settle down.
Once you go under you dive your dive, you hoover your air, you bring
your buddy up with you. Ask his opinion of you bouency and style,
after the dive. In short, don't make them wait for you, and do not
appologise for being a new diver.
Popeye - 29 Jun 2006 04:32 GMT
>In short, don't make them wait for you, and do not
> apologize for being a new diver.

 Hear, hear.

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Star - 29 Jun 2006 03:00 GMT
> >> > And if you really want to make friends fast, bring food to share.
> >>
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>
>   That brings back horrifying memories....

Oh, sorry.  I'd forgotten how easily you scare :-P

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JOF - 29 Jun 2006 04:41 GMT
> Oreos have the added advantage of rendering one's saliva into a
> particularly effective defog.  A nice mask flood and clear as you
> descend will rinse away any spare crumbs.

Jeez. I'd forgotten about seeing the dive world thru an Oreo haze.

I miss Gilboa. I used to wonder about the everpresent oil slick in the
quarry till I realized every campsite had a turkey fryer going, or in
some cases a chocolate chip cookie fryer, or other stuff. I seem to
remember some things didn't fry well. Was it you insisted on frying
those disgusting white cake thingies with the gooey filling or was that
Wagner. I know he ate them but then he'd eat anything, especially if it
was hot and greasy. Triathletes are like that apparently.

JF
Star - 29 Jun 2006 05:47 GMT
> > Oreos have the added advantage of rendering one's saliva into a
> > particularly effective defog.  A nice mask flood and clear as you
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>
> JF

I miss it too. It was Wagner who deep-fried *everything.*  Mike and I
are on much healthier rations.

Glad he did not have the deep-fryer with him when we found the poo in
the quarry......

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Dillon Pyron - 29 Jun 2006 04:55 GMT
>> > And if you really want to make friends fast, bring food to share.
>>
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>
>*

Star, say hello to alt.humor.best-of-usenet
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Star - 29 Jun 2006 05:51 GMT
> >> > And if you really want to make friends fast, bring food to share.
> >>
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>
> Star, say hello to alt.humor.best-of-usenet

;-)

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Dillon Pyron - 29 Jun 2006 04:51 GMT
>I received OW cert about 3 weeks ago.  A local dive club was at the shop and
>I got on thier mailing list.  I'm going on the first beach dive with this
>group on Sat morning.  A bit concerned cause I don't want to slow anybody
>down or have someone take a shorter then normal trip since I'm sure I'll be
>sucking air like it's going out of style.  As long as I let people know my
>exp / comfort levels should I be overly concerned?

Just go and try to have some fun.  There will be at least one dick who
will get on your case about your air consumption.  You'll be able to
tell the difference between him and the ones who are just yanking you
around a little.  Don't sweat it.

Don't dive beyond your skill or comfort and don't let yourself be
coerced into doing something you don't feel good about.
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Star - 29 Jun 2006 05:53 GMT
> >I received OW cert about 3 weeks ago.  A local dive club was at the shop and
> >I got on thier mailing list.  I'm going on the first beach dive with this
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>
> JAFO

Wise words.

And remember Rule #2 of diving:
Anyone can call a dive at any time for any reason, no questions asked.
If your buddy does not like this rule, find new buddies.

*, who had very lovely dives today.

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