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Scuba Forum / General / June 2006Buddy Line (Poll)
Hi all, I'm about to investigate the pros and cons of using a buddy line on a scientific basis. In the first step I need to acquire as much data as possible. So I'd be glad if you could post your opinion and experience by answering the two questions below. The only purpose of this poll is to collect as much ideas as possible, so at this point your level certification or experience doesn't matter. Thanks in advance, Andre P.S. Please: I don't want to raise a quarrell or endless discussions about this matter. Whether your answers prove to be correct would have to be tested under precisely defined conditions. ----------------------- 1. Under what circumstances do you think a buddyline could improve safety? 2. In what kind of other situations and under what circumstances do you consider a buddy line of 1.5m (5ft) up to 2m (6.5ft) to be dangerous? ----------------------- <snip> Here in Texas, we prefer the line to be made from chain... And one end attached to the back of a truck... <sick-grin> > 1. Under what circumstances do you think a buddyline could improve > safety? Zero visibility in a situation where getting separated might be fatal. > 2. In what kind of other situations and under what circumstances do you > consider a buddy line of 1.5m (5ft) up to 2m (6.5ft) to be dangerous? Zero visibility in a situation where a line between buddies might snag on something in a way that might be fatal. Lee >>1. Under what circumstances do you think a buddyline could improve >>safety? [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Lee That covers it well! > Hi all, > [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > 1. Under what circumstances do you think a buddyline could improve > safety? - low viz - current > 2. In what kind of other situations and under what circumstances do you > consider a buddy line of 1.5m (5ft) up to 2m (6.5ft) to be dangerous? If said line were in any way attached to either diver. Line must be simply held by each diver in a way that it could be dropped immediately if need be, such as in an entanglement. Now, about your methodology..... Why is experience or level of certification unimportant? What is your question, and what is your hypothesis? How will you test it? Could you plese share with us your methods? * ·´¯`·.¸. , . .·´¯`·.. ><(((º>`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸><(((º> > ----------------------- Is túisce deoch ná scéal, "Star" <lclee1@gmail.com> rista: > Now, about your methodology..... Why is experience or level > of certification unimportant? What is your question, and what > is your hypothesis? How will you test it? Could you plese > share with us your methods? Luann thinks she's an expert on research. <snicker>  SignaturePosted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com > Now, about your methodology..... Why is experience or level of > certification unimportant? What is your question, and what is your > hypothesis? How will you test it? Could you plese share with us your > methods? see Message-ID: <1151446584.063038.88240@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> >> Now, about your methodology..... Why is experience or level of >> certification unimportant? What is your question, and what is your >> hypothesis? How will you test it? Could you plese share with us your >> methods? > > see Message-ID: <1151446584.063038.88240@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> Anybody have a clue what he means? Popeye "If one does as God does enough times, one will become as God is." -Dr. Hannibal Lector. www.finalprotectivefire.com >>> Now, about your methodology..... Why is experience or level of >>> certification unimportant? What is your question, and what is your >>> hypothesis? How will you test it? Could you plese share with us your >>> methods? > Anybody have a clue what he means? Sort of. It turns out the guy really didn't give a damn about what anyone thought about buddy lines. His project involves evaluating the way we discuss the issues and arrive at conclusions. We've been psychoanalized and didn't even know it. Lee > >>> Now, about your methodology..... Why is experience or level of > >>> certification unimportant? What is your question, and what is your [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > We've been psychoanalized and didn't even know it. Good thing I avoided this one. > We've been psychoanalized and didn't even know it. Hmmm... Considering the replies that I gave, it should made for an interesting study... >> We've been psychoanalized and didn't even know it. > >Hmmm... Considering the replies that I gave, it should made for an >interesting study... just be cafreful and make sure you have a hidden exit to the house somewhere that big brother doesn't know about, so once they roll up with the wagons to take you to your padded room you can slip out and leave them surrounding an empty house scratching their heads :P or does that sound to paranoiac??? > just be cafreful and make sure you have a hidden exit to the house > somewhere that big brother doesn't know about, so once they roll up > with the wagons to take you to your padded room you can slip out and > leave them surrounding an empty house scratching their heads :P > > or does that sound to paranoiac??? No, it sounds like Waco... Except that it wasn't a padded room that they had in mind... >>>> Now, about your methodology..... Why is experience or level of >>>> certification unimportant? What is your question, and what is your [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > We've been psychoanalized and didn't even know it. Was there a way to make the link work, I mean? SignaturePopeye "Best thing for him, really, his therapy was going nowhere." -Dr. Hannibal Lector. www.finalprotectivefire.com >>>>> Now, about your methodology..... Why is experience or level of >>>>> certification unimportant? What is your question, and what is your [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Was there a way to make the link work, I mean? go check UK.REC.SCUBA and look for the same " buddy line poll" thread name. it's there. >>>>>> Now, about your methodology..... Why is experience or level of >>>>>> certification unimportant? What is your question, and what is your [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > go check UK.REC.SCUBA and look for the same " buddy line poll" thread > name. it's there. They -just- don't -like- me over there. I could never figure out why. Is túisce deoch ná scéal, "Popeye" <Popeye@Finalprotectivefire.com> rista: > "Some Random Dude" <insane_at_large@hotmail.com> wrote in ... >> go check UK.REC.SCUBA and look for the same " buddy line >> poll" thread name. it's there. > > They -just- don't -like- me over there. > > I could never figure out why. <andre.maier@gmx.net> wrote in message >> Now, about your methodology..... Why is experience or level of >> certification unimportant? What is your question, and what is your >> hypothesis? How will you test it? Could you plese share with us your >> methods? P.S. Please: I don't want to raise a quarrell or endless discussions about this matter. Whether your answers prove to be correct would have to be tested under precisely defined conditions. Then it's really not worth answering. Curtis > Hi all, > [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > 1. Under what circumstances do you think a buddyline could improve > safety? None. There is no reason to tie yourself to another diver, ever, beyond emergency. > 2. In what kind of other situations and under what circumstances do you > consider a buddy line of 1.5m (5ft) up to 2m (6.5ft) to be dangerous? Any time you can't exhibit an unusually -profound- and --immediately urgent- reason, perhaps as in the case of in assisting an injured diver in a current, or overhead. Furthermore, my answers are always correct, at least for me, usually for the majority, and I don't care if they're correct for you, and we'll quarrel about whatever we damn well please. SignaturePopeye "If one does as God does enough times, one will become as God is." -Dr. Hannibal Lector. www.finalprotectivefire.com <snip> > Furthermore, my answers are always correct, at least for me, usually for > the majority, and I don't care if they're correct for you, and we'll quarrel > about whatever we damn well please. No, we'll not quarrel about whatever we damn well please! Where the hell did you get that idea? <snip> Dennis :-) >1. Under what circumstances do you think a buddyline could improve >safety? when you need to tie somwone down so they don't float away efore the crabs eat the flesh. forensics are thourough these days, no need to give them a body >2. In what kind of other situations and under what circumstances do you >consider a buddy line of 1.5m (5ft) up to 2m (6.5ft) to be dangerous? anytime swimming with someone live as opposed to dead. > forensics are thourough these days, no need to give them a body Unfortunately, crabs only remove the flesh... Gators, on the other hand, eat the bones... Nasty little digestive juices that have... One must be be ecologically sound in their body disposal methods, ya' know... >> forensics are thourough these days, no need to give them a body > >Unfortunately, crabs only remove the flesh... Gators, on the other >hand, eat the bones... Nasty little digestive juices that have... One >must be be ecologically sound in their body disposal methods, ya' >know... prblem being we don't have gators here in NZ. but stuff them down a crevice in an outt of the way bunch of boulders somewhere like a random area off Whakatane and no-ones likely to find them :P > prblem being we don't have gators here in NZ. but stuff them down a > crevice in an outt of the way bunch of boulders somewhere like a > random area off Whakatane and no-ones likely to find them :P Saltwater crocks then? >> prblem being we don't have gators here in NZ. but stuff them down a >> crevice in an outt of the way bunch of boulders somewhere like a >> random area off Whakatane and no-ones likely to find them :P > >Saltwater crocks then? the nearest are in aussie, across the tasman, and i suspect coustoms might wonder about why theres a body in the luggage :x > the nearest are in aussie, across the tasman, and i suspect coustoms > might wonder about why theres a body in the luggage :x Oh well, I guess you're just going to have to gring 'em up and feed 'em to the sheep... >> the nearest are in aussie, across the tasman, and i suspect coustoms >> might wonder about why theres a body in the luggage :x > >Oh well, I guess you're just going to have to gring 'em up and feed >'em to the sheep... GASP!! feed nervous tissue to animals :P thats how yo get mad cow disease :) especially since the courpse is likely to be from a mad a.shole anyhow :) >>> prblem being we don't have gators here in NZ. but stuff them down a >>> crevice in an outt of the way bunch of boulders somewhere like a [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > the nearest are in aussie, across the tasman, and i suspect coustoms >might wonder about why theres a body in the luggage :x How many heads can you carry in a duffle bag? Signaturedillon JAFO > How many heads can you carry in a duffle bag? That would depend upon whether you shrunk them first, would it? >> How many heads can you carry in a duffle bag? > >That would depend upon whether you shrunk them first, would it? shrinking is just too much bother :P if you want a trophy stick with either sclaps or ears :D > 1. Under what circumstances do you think a buddyline could improve > safety? none > 2. In what kind of other situations and under what circumstances do you > consider a buddy line of 1.5m (5ft) up to 2m (6.5ft) to be dangerous? any condition in which you think you need a buddy line And you posted here? Asking about buddy lines? Or might they be troll lines... SignatureRapid Rick "Just Dive, Baby" > P.S. Please: I don't want to raise a quarrell or endless discussions > about this matter. Whether your answers prove to be correct would have > to be tested under precisely defined conditions. >Hi all, > [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > >----------------------- 1. None that I can think of at this time. 2. Being tied to someone gone berserker would not be fun. Wayne 1. For rec divers? Never. 2. For rec divers? It would be dangerous in all situations. Possibly okay in a working situation (non rec divers), when Braille conditions might require a team to maintain a specific separation. > Hi all, > [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > > -----------------------
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