> just looking for some information, maybe some leads or some ideas as to
> the odd water temperature and visibility we're seeing in south florida
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> daniel
I dunno.......but as a hurricane enthusiast this is surely bad news.
> just looking for some information, maybe some leads or some ideas as to
> the odd water temperature and visibility we're seeing in south florida
> right now. For the last few days, water temperatures on the 1st and
> second reef have been in their low-mid 70s, and in the low 60s past the
> third reef. Visibility from the 1st to the 3rd reefs is absolutely
> horrible(less than 10')
Welcome to SoFla.
Offshore, we have the Gulf Stream, an upwelling from the
tropical Atlantic that moves north rapidly and swings in to and
out from shore. At the beach, we have a south current. In
between, we have an unpredictable mix of swirls and eddies. At
this time of year, cold water upwellings from deep water clash
with warming inshore waters. Result is that there are seasonal
trends (thermoclines in June and July) and hourly changes as
currents swirl, tides change, winds shift, etc.
The only truism in SoFla diving is that the conditions were
always better yesterday, ya shoulda been there.
m
bullshark - 18 Jun 2006 22:43 GMT
> The only truism in SoFla diving is that the conditions were
> always better yesterday, ya shoulda been there.
Negative. I was there, and it was worse.
There was a thermocline at 90 you could bounce rocks off of.
bullshark
John Mason Jr - 19 Jun 2006 03:59 GMT
>> The only truism in SoFla diving is that the conditions were
>> always better yesterday, ya shoulda been there.
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> bullshark
Two weeks ago it was 60 on the lowrance, with a thermocline at about 90 ft
John
daniel - 19 Jun 2006 03:02 GMT
haha... I found some information on the different currents, etc... I
didn't realise there were so many currents in the ocean at different
levels. All you hear about is the gulf stream. I found a site that
details 4 different currents in a single water column.
I've seen the currents switch around, even been on/past the 3rd reef
with a south current, I've just never seen a thermocline as drastic as
this one with the water as cold as it is. I've been diving in south
florida for about 3 years, now, I probably have about 350 dives or so
between the boca inlet and the tenneco towers, and just never have seen
it like this.
It was better today, we had a nw current for the most part, around the
Sea Emperor. Temperature was way up from yesterday, around 78-80
degrees, and visibility had improved to about 25feet. The third reef
just north of the sea emperor had about a 2 knot current coming over
the reef, almost due west, making it nearly impossible to get to the
east edge of it. I'm sure it was an eddy of some sort, it was more
NWish further south on the Sea Emperor.
I had kinda suspected a deep-water current being the culprit, just
couldn't find any information until earlier today. From what I read, it
could have been an eddy/swirl from any of at least 3 different
currents, 2 antarctic currents from the south, and the North Atlantic
Deep-water current fed by the gulf stream from the north.
thanks for the input, I'm going to consider this one solved, since
we'll never know for sure the reason, at least I have something to
explain it. You may return to your regularly-scheduled non-scuba
related discussion :)
daniel
> > just looking for some information, maybe some leads or some ideas as to
> > the odd water temperature and visibility we're seeing in south florida
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> m
Grumman-581 - 19 Jun 2006 03:10 GMT
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In other words, when diving in SoFL, there might be a current... It
might come from anywhere... It might be warm... It might be cold...
In other words, dive and deal with it... Works for me...
bullshark - 25 Jun 2006 14:13 GMT
> The only truism in SoFla diving is that the conditions were
> always better yesterday, ya shoulda been there.
I think what you meant was: "Ya shoulda been there next week".
84 degrees and from the far outside at 100 feet, we could see the
Bahamas.
Went with Leo, and as will happen every once in a while he, dropped us
where we've never dived. After 597 dives on Boynton, it never stops
surprising.
Found another patch of Staghorn too.
bullshark
mike gray - 25 Jun 2006 15:39 GMT
>>The only truism in SoFla diving is that the conditions were
>>always better yesterday, ya shoulda been there.
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> Found another patch of Staghorn too.
Hope ya got the coordinates for Ed T.