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Scuba Forum / General / May 2006Canon waterproof housing for digital camera
Hi guys, Does anyone know if the canon waterproof case if good for photography when I do scuba diving? I dont know if it's cheap... look good but maybe the case can broke easly. I have a good Canon S1IS digital camera and it's better for my budget to buy that case instead a 1000$ kits. I want suggestion. Thanks Patrick > Hi guys, > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > Thanks > Patrick I've just returned from a dive to the Blue Hole (and 26 other dives) in Belize. I did every dive with my Canon Elph S230 with the Canon case. No problems at all (even though the case is rated only to 100 feet and made it down to 148 - no leaks or anything.) pictures at http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/chuck_hopf/album?.dir=6148re2&.src=ph&store=&prodi d=&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/ph//my_photos were all taken in early April with a Canon S410 in a Canon housing at various sites in Cozumel. wow im impressed.. do you use an external flash? Maybe in hawaii or in the caribbean you dont need that, but I suppose at Seattle I'll need an external flash, what you think? Do you select sport mode to take picture underwater? Thanks > wow im impressed.. do you use an external flash? > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Thanks I change the flash settings and sometimes the MACRO/ZOOM settings but other than that let the camera do its thing using the internal flash with a diffuser. Those were the best of the bunch and have all been put through photo shop and at a minimum cropped. I have taken pictures on the pipeline in Seattle during the day without a flash. Plenty of vis. Probably also plenty at Edmonds UW park. I forgot a question.. can we connect an external flash with this case? Thanks >I forgot a question.. can we connect an external flash with this case? > > Thanks I use an external flash (a Sea and Sea YS-25). It is "connected" to the camera through a fiber optic cable. A black shield covers the housing over the flash. The shield is held in place with velcro and a connector in the shield holds one end of the fiber optic cable. The other end is attached to the flash. There's nothing that goes directly to the camera - the camera flash, although covered to reduce backscatter, triggers the strobe. A real simple and effective method. - David All canon model can be plugged to a optic cable for the external flash? Pat > >I forgot a question.. can we connect an external flash with this case? > > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > - David As pointed out by someone else, there is plenty to trigger a slave strobe but you dont need anything fancy. Just put the strobe on an arm above the left side of the camera and there is enough spill to trigger the slave. > As pointed out by someone else, there is plenty to trigger a slave > strobe but you dont need anything fancy. Just put the strobe on an arm > above the left side of the camera and there is enough spill to trigger > the slave. The benefit to triggering the slave with a fiber optic cable is that you can then mask off the on-board flash. With the typical visibility we get here in the Northeast, we have so much crap in the water that the proximity of the onboard flash to the lens gives a lot of backscatter. The strobe, being further away from the lens doesn't tend to bounce light back off the particulate matter into the camera lens. >> As pointed out by someone else, there is plenty to trigger a slave >> strobe but you dont need anything fancy. Just put the strobe on an arm [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > further away from the lens doesn't tend to bounce light back off the > particulate matter into the camera lens. Mine came with a translucent block that will soften the camera's flash for macro. Replace it with an opaque block and enough flash leaks to the side to fire the strobe. >>> As pointed out by someone else, there is plenty to trigger a slave >>> strobe but you dont need anything fancy. Just put the strobe on an arm [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > flash for macro. Replace it with an opaque block and enough flash > leaks to the side to fire the strobe. If it works for you that's great. I don't think mine will work that way because the triggering spot is at the front of the strobe and recessed (since it expects the fiber optic cable). Another issue we haven't brought up is that not all strobes will work correctly with all cameras. Mine has a setting to trigger on first or second flash since the camera does a pre-flash before taking the picture. (I think it does this to set the exposure or focus.) >>>> As pointed out by someone else, there is plenty to trigger a slave >>>> strobe but you dont need anything fancy. Just put the strobe on an arm [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > flash since the camera does a pre-flash before taking the picture. (I think > it does this to set the exposure or focus.) My camera has a plethora of pre-programmed settings, but the timing for the strobe is only right on full manual. > As pointed out by someone else, there is plenty to trigger a slave > strobe but you dont need anything fancy. Damn, doesn't anyone use a hot shoe on a camera anymore? http://www.photo.net/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=00CSnG > > As pointed out by someone else, there is plenty to trigger a slave > > strobe but you dont need anything fancy. > > Damn, doesn't anyone use a hot shoe on a camera anymore? > > http://www.photo.net/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=00CSnG Sure when I drag the RS out of the closet. But the Canon is so much simpler to deal with. > Sure when I drag the RS out of the closet. But the Canon is so much > simpler to deal with. You talking about the Nikon RS? I heard that Nikon canceled it because of too many warranty claims on it leaking... Even for a Nikon, it was an expensive camera... > You talking about the Nikon RS? I heard that Nikon canceled it > because of too many warranty claims on it leaking... Even for a Nikon, > it was an expensive camera... The RS (1992) was IIRC effectively a Nikon 8008 (1989), so in terms of its electronics, it was already 3 years old by the time it made it to the retail market. It was an improvement over other alternatives, but it lost much of its size advantage vs. a conventional housed camera, plus as you pointed out, Nikon took heat for its high price, but they were probably semi-justified in doing so, since the rate of change in photography electronics probably did not encourage anything close to the decades-long lifespan of the Nikonos. Insofar as its reputation for leaking, it really wasn't that bad. The real underlying problem was that the Nikonos III and V were very robust, so they could be neglected and/or abused and they still wouldn't leak. RS buyers apparently expected this same level of "abusability" performance from the RS, which wasn't present. For this part, its probably more of a "blame expectations" instead of a blame the hardware. -hh > Insofar as its reputation for leaking, it really wasn't that bad. The > real underlying problem was that the Nikonos III and V were very [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > part, its probably more of a "blame expectations" instead of a blame > the hardware. I had heard that Nikon blamed it on the uses in that they didn't submerge the camera *gently* so as to allow the o-rings to seal, but rather were just submerging it quickly... All in all, I think I would prefer a clear external housing for a camera so that I could see when it starts to flood... The 100m depth rating on the RS was nice though... the camera *gently* so as to allow the o-rings to seal, but > rather were just submerging it quickly... All in all, I think I would > prefer a clear external housing for a camera so that I could see when > it starts to flood... The 100m depth rating on the RS was nice > though... In my case, it flooded because I was using salt-away between dives and in tests later we showed that salt-away ate Nikonos o-ring grease. Dissolved it just like dish washing detergent can dissolve grease. Sea and Sea o-ring grease did not dissolve. For me while the RS has loads of neat features, the hassle, size, and weight make it less desirable than the little tiny Canon in a housing. I get more pictures without opening the case on a rocking boat and exposing it to that risk, it is easier to handle, and is just barely positive so if I happen to let go it will go up and not down. You let go of an RS, you best swim down real fast cause it is going to the bottom. Anyone have the case for the Canon S1 IS? I ask to a seller if I will be able to use my camera flash in the waterproof case and it said no, is it true? Thanks Patrick > the camera *gently* so as to allow the o-rings to seal, but > > rather were just submerging it quickly... All in all, I think I would [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > it will go up and not down. You let go of an RS, you best swim down > real fast cause it is going to the bottom.
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