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Scuba Forum / General / March 2006Mary Rose Divers
Visit: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/maryrosedivers/ or http://www.bsacforum.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=3918 PLEASE NOTE THIS GROUP IS OPEN TO BONA FIDE MEMBERS OF THE MARY ROSE DIVING TEAM ONLY. Eddie > Visit: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/maryrosedivers/ > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Eddie Tell us who is Mary Rose and why she needs a f..g team to be dived at. Matthias >> Visit: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/maryrosedivers/ >> [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > Tell us who is Mary Rose and why she needs a f..g team to be dived at. > Matthias HMS Mary Rose was a poorly designed ship that sank in calm weather at Spithead in July, 1545, taking over 600 souls with her despite several other ships close by. There were attempts to recover the ship in early August of that year, but the job was soon abandoned and the Mary Rose was forgotten. 237 years later, the Royal George sank in the same spot, with about 900 deaths. The Mary Rose was accidentally discovered during the salvage operations on the Royal George which continued intermittently into the 1840s. A corporal Harris, using Siebe-Gorman's improved dress, is the only person of note to ever dive these wrecks, and it was his work that put S-G on the map. Corporal Harris died over a century ago, and all divers on the site since him can be considered Johnny-come-latelys and poseurs. m >>> Visit: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/maryrosedivers/ >>> [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > Corporal Harris died over a century ago, and all divers on the site since > him can be considered Johnny-come-latelys and poseurs. And I highly doubt he read the post. > m >>>>Visit: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/maryrosedivers/ >>>> [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > > And I highly doubt he read the post. Take care... The Brits can be quite spooky. Matthias Thanks, coordinates? >> Tell us who is Mary Rose and why she needs a f..g team to be dived at. >> Matthias [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > m > Thanks > coordinates? N 50° 45' 48'' North W 1° 6' 10'' Just off Spithead nigelH >>Thanks >>coordinates? > > N 50° 45' 48'' North W 1° 6' 10'' > Just off Spithead Thanks. Historic wreck restricted area. ..For details see Annual NM 16. And a RN anchorage area.... And a bit sandy, if not downright murky most of the time. How much time window is left there during upcoming tide? Matthias >>> Thanks >>> coordinates? [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > And a bit sandy, if not downright murky most of the time. > How much time window is left there during upcoming tide? Come on. It's a wreck that was found by a BSAC club in the 70s. There is nothing left there now. nigelH BSAC club member >>>>Thanks >>>>coordinates? [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > It's a wreck that was found by a BSAC club in the 70s. > There is nothing left there now. Hm.. The French seem to protect their historical sites a bit better. You would not set anchor at such a site without being controlled. So the Solent is not that difficult a diving site as it appears from the chart? Matthias >> Come on. >> It's a wreck that was found by a BSAC club in the 70s. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > better. You would not set anchor at such a site without > being controlled. As I said not much left there to control http://www.maryrose.org/ > So the Solent is not that difficult a diving site as it > appears from the chart? Bitch if you care about the tide. If you are just prepared to hang on tight no worse than anywhere on the south coast. Well, provided you don't mind getting run down by a warship. nigelH >>>Come on. >>>It's a wreck that was found by a BSAC club in the 70s. [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > hang on tight no worse than anywhere on the south coast. > Well, provided you don't mind getting run down by a warship. I'am bitching a bit because I am very much used to care about the tides in Brittany, Brest to Point de St. Mathieu to Trepied area. Matthias > Come on. > It's a wreck that was found by a BSAC club in the 70s. > There is nothing left there now. Found in the 70's? Not hardly. Salvage of the Royal George and the nearby Mary Rose began in earnest in 1839, though a number of earlier, less successful, salvage operations had been mounted on both. Their location was no secret, and the Royal George was carefully noted on all charts as it was a hazard to navigation. Colonel Pasley of the Royal Sappers and Miners was in charge of the 1839-1842 salvage, which included use of iron cylinders containing from 60 to 2000 pounds of gunpowder to break apart the wreck. During the Royal George salvage five brass cannon, twenty iron cannon, stone shot, and a large number of other relics were salvaged from the Mary Rose. The Mary Rose cannon were of great interest, as some were breech-loading and some of the iron cannon were made of bars bound by hoops. > HMS Mary Rose was a poorly designed ship that sank in calm > weather at Spithead in July, 1545, taking over 600 souls with > her despite several other ships close by. That what happens when you use a French built ship. No need to dive at the co-ordinates, just go to the museum in Portsmouth where she is now. :) Tim > Visit: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/maryrosedivers/ > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Eddie So you need to tell everyone in here, just to contact half a dozen people? Are they lost? Or were you just bragging to us proles who arn't invited? >> Visit: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/maryrosedivers/ >> [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > Are they lost? > Or were you just bragging to us proles who arn't invited? I'd say that's it. |
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