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Advice re: Problem with bottom of right big toe & fins

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sytech@yahoo.com - 10 Feb 2006 00:29 GMT
A few weeks a go I got my Advanced Open Water Certification.

Everything went well except for the fact that I got some ulceration
from the fins I was using on the underside of my right big toe even
though the fin felt comfortable on my foot.

It was really raw and affected my walking but it has improved in the
last week or so.  I'm leaving for Roatan on Saturday and want to avoid
more problems so I'm bringing adhesive tape and gauze.

Does anyone have any suggestions to protect my right toe while diving.

Any comments and suggestions will be appreciated.

Thanks,

Sy

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Dr Yak - 10 Feb 2006 01:33 GMT
> A few weeks a go I got my Advanced Open Water Certification.
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> Sy

Try wearing socks.  You can even get some silk dive socks, but I would
bet that some cheap white ones will work fine for you.
Dillon Pyron - 12 Feb 2006 22:53 GMT
>> A few weeks a go I got my Advanced Open Water Certification.
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>Try wearing socks.  You can even get some silk dive socks, but I would
>bet that some cheap white ones will work fine for you.

I use polypropelene socks from REI.  Wick Dri by brand.

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chilly - 10 Feb 2006 02:25 GMT
> A few weeks a go I got my Advanced Open Water Certification.
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> Any comments and suggestions will be appreciated.

My dive booties used to chew me up in a few places.  Then a looooooonnnnnngg
time professional underwater photographer told me to get some lycra socks.
Followed his advice and I've had nary a problem since.
Charlie - 10 Feb 2006 04:36 GMT
> Does anyone have any suggestions to protect my right toe while diving.
>
> Any comments and suggestions will be appreciated.

If its not fully healed and you dive anyway, It will probably get some
kind of microbes in it so bring some antibiotics. Its amazing how quick
infection can grow in a small wound exposed to sea life.
sytech@yahoo.com - 10 Feb 2006 11:36 GMT
I have Neomycin cream.  Will that do?

Thankjs

> > Does anyone have any suggestions to protect my right toe while diving.
> >
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> kind of microbes in it so bring some antibiotics. Its amazing how quick
> infection can grow in a small wound exposed to sea life.

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Matthias Voss - 10 Feb 2006 14:48 GMT
> I have Neomycin cream.  Will that do?

Could be.
Otherwise Mercurochrome as a desinfectant, or Iruxol cream
to fight the infection. Iruxol has enzymes which "eat" the
inflamed tissue.

Matthias

> Thankjs
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>>kind of microbes in it so bring some antibiotics. Its amazing how quick
>>infection can grow in a small wound exposed to sea life.
Greg Mossman - 10 Feb 2006 17:18 GMT
> Otherwise Mercurochrome as a desinfectant, or Iruxol cream to fight the
> infection. Iruxol has enzymes which "eat" the inflamed tissue.

Maggots work good in a pinch.
Lee Bell - 10 Feb 2006 18:31 GMT
>> Otherwise Mercurochrome as a desinfectant, or Iruxol cream to fight the
>> infection. Iruxol has enzymes which "eat" the inflamed tissue.
>
> Maggots work good in a pinch.

Yeah, but they're hard to keep alive and even harder to get a medical
certificate for when traveling internationally.

Lee
Greg Mossman - 10 Feb 2006 20:13 GMT
>>> Otherwise Mercurochrome as a desinfectant, or Iruxol cream to fight the
>>> infection. Iruxol has enzymes which "eat" the inflamed tissue.
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> Yeah, but they're hard to keep alive and even harder to get a medical
> certificate for when traveling internationally.

How hard can they be to keep alive?  As long as they have something to eat,
they're fine.  Though it can be difficult to keep them alive underwater.
Maybe someone will invent little maggot rebreathers someday.

As for traveling, simply get new maggots when you arrive.  All of my
international diving is done in third-world countries.  It's never too hard
to find maggots in a third-world country, except in those countries where
they're used for food.

Also you can rub them on your teeth to prevent scurvy.  I learned that from
reading Shogun.  When I'm out on a long liveaboard trip where scurvy is a
definite possibility, I always bring my trusty maggots.
Charlie - 10 Feb 2006 17:01 GMT
> I have Neomycin cream.  Will that do?
>
> Thankjs

I don't know !

For a topical its probably as good as any, perhaps add Mathias's
suggestions to your travel kit also.

>> Otherwise Mercurochrome as a desinfectant, or Iruxol cream
>>Matthias

I ignored a small burst blister, diving day after day, and it turned
from just healing slow to a full blown infection requiring a dosed
antibiotic regimen.

Have a good trip.
Dan L - 11 Feb 2006 03:13 GMT
> I have Neomycin cream.  Will that do?
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>> kind of microbes in it so bring some antibiotics. Its amazing how quick
>> infection can grow in a small wound exposed to sea life.

See if you can get some powder - it works  lot better as it dries out
the wound as well as helping to kill the infection.

A good combo is wash using hydrogen peroxide - this will kill off
anything on the surface, then sprinkle with antibiotic powder. Leave
uncovered unless flies are going for it.

Just rinse, dry it off and then powder once the infection has gone.

Betadine dry iodine spray is a good alternative if you don't want to
start with antibiotics...
Dillon Pyron - 12 Feb 2006 22:54 GMT
>I have Neomycin cream.  Will that do?

Not if your trip is soon.  Get duct tape and be ready to scream when
you take it off.  You will scream.

>Thankjs
>
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>> infection can grow in a small wound exposed to sea life.
>>
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mike gray - 10 Feb 2006 23:34 GMT
> A few weeks a go I got my Advanced Open Water Certification.
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> Sy

From one with hammertoes and many dives:

1. Tape over any area that rubs with Transpore tape (available
free from anyone who works in a hospital - the most filched item
in the biz) and, 2. Wear old socks under booties.

m
Dillon Pyron - 12 Feb 2006 22:57 GMT
>> A few weeks a go I got my Advanced Open Water Certification.
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>free from anyone who works in a hospital - the most filched item
>in the biz) and, 2. Wear old socks under booties.

After Carol's sentinel node biopsy, the hospital gave us a bunch of
Tegaderm (I think) bandage covers.

BTW, the biopsy came back negative.  A small celebration followed.

>m
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Becky - 11 Feb 2006 18:35 GMT
This is too late for Sy, who's on his way today (lucky guy), but I had the
same problem with blisters on my toes until I got Force Fin Foils (the style
that looks like rabbit ears:
http://forcefin.com/FF_PAGES/FF_Products/foil_force_product.htm). They're
like Birkenstock sandals for diving. No more toe blisters.  My local dive
shop owner lent me hers for a trip once and I was sold. (I borrowed them for
2 weeks for free--now there's a woman who knows how to sell expensive dive
gear :-)

Some people claim that they're less efficient in a current than regular
fins, but I haven't found that to be the case.  On the other hand, I try not
to swim against ripping currents...  The fins seem more efficient with a
slightly different stroke than regular fins (bent leg, not straight), but
they work OK either way.

They're equally good for diving and snorkeling. I do a lot of snorkeling,
some of it in currents, with the occasional aerobic sprint in calm water to
follow a shark or ray.  I never catch them, but we all seem to enjoy the
race.

Becky, Austin, TX, USA

> A few weeks a go I got my Advanced Open Water Certification.
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> Sy

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