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Scuba Forum / General / February 2006Coral cuts
OK I need to ask, How long should I expect it to take for cuts and scrapes from coral to heal ? I got knocked down coming ashore and I was wearing a shortie. > How long should I expect it to take for cuts and scrapes from coral to > heal ? I got knocked down coming ashore and > I was wearing a shortie. It seems to take forever. I've got a barnacle cut on my finger that's not fully healed after several months. Lee >> How long should I expect it to take for cuts and scrapes from coral to >> heal ? I got knocked down coming ashore and [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > >Lee A good saltwater cut can take forever. You may even need to see a doc for some work on it. Coral can get embedded and cause all sorts of infections. All I've had were yellyfish stings. Carol did collect some fire coral early in our diving career. She learned bouyancy control pretty quickly after that.  Signaturedillon Could have been is in the past Could be is in the future There is only the now > All I've had were yellyfish stings. Carol did collect some fire coral > early in our diving career. She learned bouyancy control pretty > quickly after that. Jayna did pretty much the same thing. It may have been her first dive after certification when she descended to kneel on the bottom, right on top of a fire coral covered pipe. She not only learned buoyancy control, she also learned to wear a skin on every dive. Until she did this, I didn't realize that kneeling on the bottom to adjust everything at the beginning of a dive is a skill taught by the diver certification agencies. Fortunately, it can be untaught quickly by an experienced buddy. Unfortunately, not all new divers have an experienced buddy. Lee > Until she did this, I didn't realize that kneeling on the bottom to adjust > everything at the beginning of a dive is a skill taught by the diver > certification agencies. AFAIK, it's not, but what they DO do is have divers kneel on the bottom to drill skills. It keeps everyone together, and can reduce the task loading for new divers. I can see how it would be misconstrued as "the way" to do things rather than a way to learn one thing at a time. Now the next question is, why do the training agencies overweight students by so much. I can't tell you how many buddies I've brought down from 18-24 lbs to 6-10 with no other change in equipment. It's not like doing a weight drill after the end of one of the training dives would take all that much time. >> Until she did this, I didn't realize that kneeling on the bottom to >> adjust everything at the beginning of a dive is a skill taught by the [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > a weight drill after the end of one of the training dives would take all > that much time. Easy answer. It's the same reason that they have them kneel on the bottom. It's easier than teaching them the right way, at least until they have everything else more or less under control. Lee >>> Until she did this, I didn't realize that kneeling on the bottom to >>> adjust everything at the beginning of a dive is a skill taught by the [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > >Lee Face it, bouyancy control takes thought. The last thing most students want to do is think. Most are overwhelmed by the situation. It really is a task loading situation. I used to try to get everyone neutrally weighted before the first dive. Get in with all your gear and add weight until you just sink. A little heavy helps with Al 80s. But almost every student was a bobber, so I had to go heavy. The few who had no problems have gone on to be good divers who I'll dive with any day. Signaturedillon Could have been is in the past Could be is in the future There is only the now >>>Until she did this, I didn't realize that kneeling on the bottom to >>>adjust everything at the beginning of a dive is a skill taught by the [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > It's easier than teaching them the right way, at least until they have > everything else more or less under control. I find no problem in teaching bloody beginners to float from the beginning, and telling them that the ability to stay neutral is not only a key skill to diving, but to environmental protection as well. Hope this spares them looking like that, as experienced divers: http://www.ccrb.co.uk/gallerys/redsea2005.html Matthias > I find no problem in teaching bloody beginners to float from the > beginning, and telling them that the ability to stay neutral is not only a > key skill to diving, but to environmental protection as well. Yeah, well, you're not a PADI USA instructor either, are you? To be honest, I can't blame open water instructors for having their students overweight and sit in a circle on the bottom to do/learn skills. The classes here tend to be crowded and an instructor can only look in so many directions at once. It would be nice, however, if the standard included something on getting buoyancy at least close to right. Then again, I'm not really all that fond of fire coral anyway. If all the students in the Fort Lauderdale area want to kneel on some, who am I to complain. 8^) Lee > > I find no problem in teaching bloody beginners to float from the > > beginning, and telling them that the ability to stay neutral is not only a [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > directions at once. It would be nice, however, if the standard included > something on getting buoyancy at least close to right. If they did that, then how could they sell the Peak Buoyancy class? > Then again, I'm not really all that fond of fire coral anyway. If all the > students in the Fort Lauderdale area want to kneel on some, who am I to > complain. 8^) tsk, tsk > Lee >>I find no problem in teaching bloody beginners to float from the >>beginning, and telling them that the ability to stay neutral is not only a >>key skill to diving, but to environmental protection as well. > > Yeah, well, you're not a PADI USA instructor either, are you? Huh, no.. Neither a european one ;-). > To be honest, I can't blame open water instructors for having their students > overweight and sit in a circle on the bottom to do/learn skills. The > classes here tend to be crowded and an instructor can only look in so many > directions at once. It would be nice, however, if the standard included > something on getting buoyancy at least close to right. We don't have more than 2, max. 3 students in the pool, per instructor. When students feel at ease at the surface, they normally have less problems staying down, and use less weights. Feeling at ease, specifically breathing with no mask, submerging when breathing out. > Then again, I'm not really all that fond of fire coral anyway. If all the > students in the Fort Lauderdale area want to kneel on some, who am I to > complain. 8^) When abundant, they are nasty, not only to touch, but may release sitnging cells. floating in the water, as well. Matthias > It would be nice, however, if the standard included something on getting buoyancy at least > close to right. It does. If it isnt being taught, it is usually b/c the instructor is taking a short cut. What does amaze me is how many OW students are heinously over-weighted, especially considering that it is easier for beginners to maintain buoyancy when they are properly weighted - the less superfluous air they have in their BC, the less likely they are to bob up and down. Vandit > OK I need to ask, How long should I expect it to take for cuts and > scrapes from coral to heal ? I got knocked down coming ashore and I > was wearing a shortie. Better question for you... Have you learned any lessons associated with this incident? Like maybe wear a full wetsuit or at least a rash guard? <snicker> Put some of the antibiotic cream in the wounds... It seems to help a bit... Instead of it taking *forever* for the wound to heal, it only *seems* like forever... >> OK I need to ask, How long should I expect it to take for cuts and >> scrapes from coral to heal ? I got knocked down coming ashore and I [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >Instead of it taking *forever* for the wound to heal, it only *seems* like >forever... Actually it was all a plot, Bonaire will not allow anyone to depart the island with sea shells or "stuff" they brought up. Now I have some pieces of coral they didn't know I took. > OK I need to ask, How long should I expect it to take for cuts and > scrapes from coral to heal ? I got knocked down coming ashore and I > was wearing a shortie. Open the wounds with a razor blade and rub some Draino into em. Next time stay the f.ck off the coral a.shole. >> OK I need to ask, How long should I expect it to take for cuts and >> scrapes from coral to heal ? I got knocked down coming ashore and I >> was wearing a shortie. > >Open the wounds with a razor blade and rub some Draino into em. Next time >stay the f.ck off the coral a.shole. DOn, kiss my a.s fool |
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