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Severed hand points to shark attack on missing diver

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newz - 29 Nov 2003 04:12 GMT
Severed hand points to shark attack on missing diver

http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/L2878686.htm
Salty - 29 Nov 2003 14:12 GMT
> Severed hand points to shark attack on missing diver

You sure it's a shark and not a puffer attack ??
david - 29 Nov 2003 14:59 GMT
> You sure it's a shark and not a puffer attack ??

:-)
rwjg40 - 02 Dec 2003 20:44 GMT
> > Severed hand points to shark attack on missing diver
>
> You sure it's a shark and not a puffer attack ??

I'm getting in here late, but did anyone else note the unfortunate
choice of words in the subject of this thread?  It conjurs up quite an
image...

Gordon in Austin
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Dan Bracuk, CTHD - 03 Dec 2003 22:20 GMT
rwjg40 <identity.available@upon.request> pounded away at his keyboard
resulting in:
:I'm getting in here late, but did anyone else note the unfortunate
:choice of words in the subject of this thread?

Perhaps it was an intentional choice of words.

Dan Bracuk
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Salty - 04 Dec 2003 14:50 GMT

> I'm getting in here late, but did anyone else note the unfortunate
> choice of words in the subject of this thread?  It conjurs up quite an
> image...

Gordy, read the article.  It says :

"JOHANNESBURG, Nov 28 (Reuters) - South African police searching for a
missing scuba diver found only his severed left hand, suggesting he
fell victim to a rare shark attack, police said on Friday."

That sure does stir up quite an image. The chances of it happening are
very slim though.
Matthias Voss - 04 Dec 2003 16:14 GMT
Salty schrieb:

> "JOHANNESBURG, Nov 28 (Reuters) - South African police searching for a
> missing scuba diver found only his severed left hand, suggesting he
> fell victim to a rare shark attack, police said on Friday."
>
> That sure does stir up quite an image. The chances of it happening are
> very slim though.

Can porcupine fish count to five ?
Are they gregarious eaters ?

Matthias
Salty - 05 Dec 2003 22:46 GMT
> Salty schrieb:
>
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> Can porcupine fish count to five ?
> Are they gregarious eaters ?

I hope not !!  <grin>
chilly - 04 Dec 2003 17:15 GMT
> > I'm getting in here late, but did anyone else note the unfortunate
> > choice of words in the subject of this thread?  It conjurs up quite an
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> That sure does stir up quite an image. The chances of it happening are
> very slim though.

I'm not sure that the chances are quite so slim in south Africa.
Salty - 05 Dec 2003 22:43 GMT
> > rwjg40 <identity.available@upon.request> wrote in message
>  news:<3FCCF9C8.52163A44@upon.request>...
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> > That sure does stir up quite an image. The chances of it happening are
> > very slim though.

> I'm not sure that the chances are quite so slim in south Africa.

IIRC, S Africa is actually many steps behind in the list for shark
attacks on humans, whether swimming or scuba diving.  In N America;,
Florida, Hawaii and Calif seem to be the big contenders.  And in the
world picture, Australia seems to be the leader.  Perhaps I'm wrong.
Simon Dakin - 06 Dec 2003 14:53 GMT
>>> rwjg40 <identity.available@upon.request> wrote in message
>>
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
> Florida, Hawaii and Calif seem to be the big contenders.  And in the
> world picture, Australia seems to be the leader.  Perhaps I'm wrong.

On the basis of the 2002 figures from the most comprehensive source I've
found:

http://www.flmnh.ufl.edu/fish/Sharks/Statistics/2002attacksummary.htm

You'd be wrong:

> Three fatalities occurred in 2002, down from five in 2001 and 13 in
> 2000. The 5% fatality rate was significantly lower than the 1990's
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> occurred in Australia (6), Brazil (3), South Africa (2), and Costa
> Rica (1).

Thus if you just want to be attacked North America is the place to go
whereas Australia is the best place for getting fully worked over. In
reality if you don't choose Australian sites known for potentially
dangerous sharks and especially don't spearfish then the dangers to
divers in Australia are minimal.

Simon
Salty - 07 Dec 2003 12:01 GMT
> > IIRC, S Africa is actually many steps behind in the list for shark
> > attacks on humans, whether swimming or scuba diving.  In N America;,
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> found:
> http://www.flmnh.ufl.edu/fish/Sharks/Statistics/2002attacksummary.htm

> You'd be wrong:

Simon, am I confused while reading your post or...??   Please compare
what I've said to the article for the website you posted here.
According to your article, I'm not wrong. It says that Fla, Hawaii and
Calif are leaders in the USA and that Australia is the leader
elsewhere. Perhaps you thought I meant that Australia was the leader
out of all of the world ??  Nope... I meant Australia was big on bites
outside of N America, while the other locations were the leaders for N
America. It seems to me that the article that you posted here supports
my statements instead of contradicting them. Am I misunderstanding you
??
 

> > Three fatalities occurred in 2002, down from five in 2001 and 13 in
> > 2000. The 5% fatality rate was significantly lower than the 1990's
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
>
> Simon
Simon Dakin - 08 Dec 2003 10:23 GMT
>>>IIRC, S Africa is actually many steps behind in the list for shark
>>>attacks on humans, whether swimming or scuba diving.  In N America;,
[quoted text clipped - 22 lines]
> ??
>  

In the paragraph I quoted, you were talking about shark attacks on
humans. In the last sentence you say that in the world picture Australia
seems to be the leader.

Are you saying that the USA isn't part of the world? Perhaps what you
should have said was that other than in the USA Australia has most shark
attacks.

Simon
Salty - 08 Dec 2003 16:53 GMT
> >>>IIRC, S Africa is actually many steps behind in the list for shark
> >>>attacks on humans, whether swimming or scuba diving.  In N America;,
[quoted text clipped - 21 lines]
> > my statements instead of contradicting them. Am I misunderstanding you
> > ??

> In the paragraph I quoted, you were talking about shark attacks on
> humans. In the last sentence you say that in the world picture Australia
> seems to be the leader.
> Are you saying that the USA isn't part of the world? Perhaps what you
> should have said was that other than in the USA Australia has most shark
> attacks.

Ahhh. I see the problem. Yes. I made a distinction between the N
Americans and said that Fla, California, and Hawaii were the top
leaders there.... and then said that in the rest of the world was
Australia.  I certainly do not think that the USA isn't part of the
world.  I live here.  LOL  You are correct in that my explanation was
not clear. I'm sorry. Thank you for the web site post though...  that
was very informative and I enjoyed reading it. :)
~Salty, CID~
rwjg40 - 04 Dec 2003 17:16 GMT
> > I'm getting in here late, but did anyone else note the unfortunate
> > choice of words in the subject of this thread?  It conjurs up quite an
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> That sure does stir up quite an image. The chances of it happening are
> very slim though.

The image I was referring to was that of a severed hand pointing at
something.

Gordon in Austin
Salty - 05 Dec 2003 22:45 GMT
> > > I'm getting in here late, but did anyone else note the unfortunate
> > > choice of words in the subject of this thread?  It conjurs up quite an
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> > That sure does stir up quite an image. The chances of it happening are
> > very slim though.

> The image I was referring to was that of a severed hand pointing at
> something.

Ohhh.. dang.  What a pun !!  LOL  Gordy... that's so bad it's good.  :)
Sakkie - 01 Dec 2003 11:04 GMT
Rumours here in SA, is that he wasn't a scuba diver, but a Spearo...

Sakkie
 
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