Best fins for frog kick?

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Jean-Sebastien Morisset - 06 Jan 2006 20:23 GMT

Aside from the SP Jet fins and IDI Turtle fins, which fins are best for
frog kicks?

I'm asking because I already have the SP Jets and IDI Turtles, but need
to find a lightweight alternative for remote destinations. I was
thinking maybe the Cressi Master Frog?

Thanks,
js.

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Popeye - 07 Jan 2006 09:26 GMT

> Aside from the SP Jet fins and IDI Turtle fins, which fins are best for
> frog kicks?
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> Thanks,
> js.

Js, I get an excellent frog kick out of Mares Quattros.

One dive trip with them, you'll cut the Jets up for door stop wedges (I
own both).

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Al Wells - 07 Jan 2006 14:20 GMT

> Js, I get an excellent frog kick out of Mares Quattros.

I'll ditto that. Quattros are excellent.

The Cressi Frogs are nice fins too, but I like the quattros alot more.

> One dive trip with them, you'll cut the Jets up for door stop wedges (I
> own both).

The Jets are heavy, but I just did a cave diving trip with a steel
plate, Jets, reels, 18W HID with canister and 2 9AH nickel packs,
wetsuit, charger, tool/spares kit, 4 regs, backup lights, compass,
timer, masks, camera and housing and still was under the weight limit.

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Whistler - 07 Jan 2006 17:18 GMT

> The Jets are heavy, but I just did a cave diving trip with a steel
> plate, Jets, reels, 18W HID with canister and 2 9AH nickel packs,
> wetsuit, charger, tool/spares kit, 4 regs, backup lights, compass,
> timer, masks, camera and housing and still was under the weight limit.

I didn't have the camera and housing, but did have the old SLA batteries
in my canister light and I also made the weight limit. My regs were the
only thing in carry on.

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JRE - 07 Jan 2006 16:02 GMT

> <snip>
>
> Js, I get an excellent frog kick out of Mares Quattros.
>
>

Likewise. In my opinion, they frog kick best out of the entire Mares
line, and by a significant margin. (My LDS was kind enough to loan me
one of every fin they sold to try out in a pool alongside one of their
classes before I bought mine a few years ago.) Also--don't laugh!--US
Divers Rocket fins are great for frog kicking, though I would not call
them light weight.

John Eells

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Scott - 07 Jan 2006 18:12 GMT

> > Aside from the SP Jet fins and IDI Turtle fins, which fins are best for
> > frog kicks?

> > I'm asking because I already have the SP Jets and IDI Turtles, but need
> > to find a lightweight alternative for remote destinations. I was
> > thinking maybe the Cressi Master Frog?

> > Thanks,
> > js.

> Js, I get an excellent frog kick out of Mares Quattros.

> One dive trip with them, you'll cut the Jets up for door stop wedges (I
> own both).

Try a set of Turtles.

The Quattros will gather dust.

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Jean-Sebastien Morisset - 08 Jan 2006 09:22 GMT

> > > Aside from the SP Jet fins and IDI Turtle fins, which fins are best for
> > > frog kicks?
>
> > > I'm asking because I already have the SP Jets and IDI Turtles, but need
> > > to find a lightweight alternative for remote destinations. I was
> > > thinking maybe the Cressi Master Frog?

[snip!]

> Try a set of Turtles.
>
> The Quattros will gather dust.

Thanks, but I already said I have a pair. They're a little lighter than
the Jets, but I'm looking for something much lighter. This is to wear
with a wetsuit, so I don't need the extra weight at the feet.

Looks like I gotta find some Quattros to try out. I can see how the
center flex of the Quattros would create a better 'scoop' for a frog
kick. I don't really like the look of 'em, but the Quattro Excel Metal
LE don't look too bad. :-) Anyone know if there are springs available
for the Quattros?

Thanks,
js.

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Matthias Voss - 09 Jan 2006 08:45 GMT

> LE don't look too bad. :-) Anyone know if there are springs available
> for the Quattros?

The Apollo Biofins have a spring system which can be adapted
to any fins. It has a flange with a flat face. Hold it to
the fins, drill 2 little holes, attach
SS plate with rubber plate from the inside. The flange
inside will dig a bit into the material so it won't disturb.

These are distributed in Germany by Poseidon.
And yes, they sell the spring strap assembly separately.

Matthias

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Popeye - 09 Jan 2006 09:11 GMT

>> "Popeye" <Popeye@Finalprotectivefire.com> wrote in message

> Looks like I gotta find some Quattros to try out. I can see how the
> center flex of the Quattros would create a better 'scoop' for a frog
> kick. I don't really like the look of 'em, but the Quattro Excel Metal
> LE don't look too bad. :-) Anyone know if there are springs available
> for the Quattros?

Several different kinds.

I use doubled 1/4" shock cord on mine, and it works -super- going on 4
years I think.

I got springs on my spare Quatts, haven't used them yet.

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Xavier - 11 Jan 2006 19:31 GMT

Strange nobody mentioned, I have a pair of idea3 fins and they are perfect
for frog kick and they are not heavy like the turtles or jetfins ... and
they do perform (they have a big "spoonlike" scoop area), just try it out
... http://www.aqualung.co.uk/images/products/prd_technisub_idea3hf_adj.jpg

I have both jetfin and turtle (for drysuit), idea3 is perfect for travelling
(LIGHT!!!) and that without frog kick performance loss

Xavier

> > > > Aside from the SP Jet fins and IDI Turtle fins, which fins are best for
> > > > frog kicks?
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> Thanks,
> js.

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Scott - 07 Jan 2006 23:10 GMT

> > Aside from the SP Jet fins and IDI Turtle fins, which fins are best for
> > frog kicks?
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> One dive trip with them, you'll cut the Jets up for door stop wedges (I
> own both).

Forgot to add this;

http://www.amronintl.com/diving/products.cfm?id=442

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