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Fish swarm taking shape of a larger fish?

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Paul Ferguson - 30 Nov 2005 14:22 GMT
A scuba friend says while diving in the Virgin Islands, they saw a
school or swarm of small fish swimming in a formation making a
distinct shape of a larger fish.

Has anyone else ever observed  this?

PaulF
Schmoe - 30 Nov 2005 15:00 GMT
> A scuba friend says while diving in the Virgin Islands, they saw a
> school or swarm of small fish swimming in a formation making a
> distinct shape of a larger fish.
>
> Has anyone else ever observed  this?

Yes, it's clearly shown in the film Finding Nemo.
Scott - 30 Nov 2005 15:14 GMT
> > A scuba friend says while diving in the Virgin Islands, they saw a
> > school or swarm of small fish swimming in a formation making a
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> Yes, it's clearly shown in the film Finding Nemo.

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Scott - 30 Nov 2005 15:01 GMT
> A scuba friend says while diving in the Virgin Islands, they saw a
> school or swarm of small fish swimming in a formation making a
> distinct shape of a larger fish.
>
> Has anyone else ever observed  this?

Yes.
Matthias Voss - 30 Nov 2005 15:16 GMT
> A scuba friend says while diving in the Virgin Islands, they saw a
> school or swarm of small fish swimming in a formation making a
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> PaulF

These fish served as comparses in "Nemo"

Matthias
Bill Bracewell - 30 Nov 2005 19:28 GMT
>A scuba friend says while diving in the Virgin Islands, they saw a
>school or swarm of small fish swimming in a formation making a
>distinct shape of a larger fish.
>
>Has anyone else ever observed  this?

Yes I saw this whilst diving on plate coral off Zanzibar in August.

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Procambarus - 01 Dec 2005 20:15 GMT
> A scuba friend says while diving in the Virgin Islands, they saw a
> school or swarm of small fish swimming in a formation making a
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> PaulF

There was a picture of that in one of the scuba magazines a couple of
months ago- I don't remember any details except that it was taken sometime
in the '50's.  I try to find it when I get a free moment later.

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Matthias Voss - 01 Dec 2005 23:31 GMT
>>A scuba friend says while diving in the Virgin Islands, they saw a
>>school or swarm of small fish swimming in a formation making a
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> months ago- I don't remember any details except that it was taken sometime
> in the '50's.  I try to find it when I get a free moment later.

Is tehre anything said about wether the "fish shape" was a
"positive" picture, consisting of fish, or a "negative"
consisting of not fish, only the surrounding edge?

In latter case, the shape could as well have been caused by
a large predator with a distinct sense of style.

Matthias
Buhda - 02 Dec 2005 01:20 GMT
I believe that scientists have known of this phenomenon for several years
now.  Small fish congregating in the shape of a larger animal to discourage
predators.

>A scuba friend says while diving in the Virgin Islands, they saw a
> school or swarm of small fish swimming in a formation making a
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> PaulF
Lee Bell - 02 Dec 2005 09:06 GMT
>I believe that scientists have known of this phenomenon for several years
>now.  Small fish congregating in the shape of a larger animal to discourage
>predators.

I believe that this is highly unlikely.  Feel free to prove me wrong.

Lee

>>A scuba friend says while diving in the Virgin Islands, they saw a
>> school or swarm of small fish swimming in a formation making a
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>>
>> PaulF
Dillon Pyron - 04 Dec 2005 19:36 GMT
>>I believe that scientists have known of this phenomenon for several years
>>now.  Small fish congregating in the shape of a larger animal to discourage
>>predators.
>
>I believe that this is highly unlikely.  Feel free to prove me wrong.

I saw it on the Web, it must be true.

>Lee
>
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>>> PaulF
>
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Lee Bell - 04 Dec 2005 20:10 GMT
>>>I believe that scientists have known of this phenomenon for several years
>>>now.  Small fish congregating in the shape of a larger animal to
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>
> I saw it on the Web, it must be true.

That's good enough for me.

Lee
Benedict Addis - 05 Dec 2005 17:59 GMT
>>>A scuba friend says while diving in the Virgin Islands, they saw a
>>> school or swarm of small fish swimming in a formation making a
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>>>
>>> PaulF

>>I believe that scientists have known of this phenomenon for several years
>>now.  Small fish congregating in the shape of a larger animal to
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> Lee

Seen it with my own eyes in Palau. A shoal of small minnowy fish which were
in constant rolling movement, forming a larger shape. Although this
obviously doesn't look exactly like a fish, it creates the illusion of a
single big 'something', moving cohesively. As a shadowy shape seen
indistinctly it was very effective, even scary.

When I got closer, I observed that each fish drops back to the 'tail' of the
shape and then swims over the top to form part of the 'nose' again. Much
like using logs to roll a big stone, taking them out at the back and placing
them at the front again.

Finding Nemo was very well observed.

Benedict.
Matthias Voss - 05 Dec 2005 18:51 GMT
>>>>A scuba friend says while diving in the Virgin Islands, they saw a
>>>>school or swarm of small fish swimming in a formation making a
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
> single big 'something', moving cohesively. As a shadowy shape seen
> indistinctly it was very effective, even scary.

The reason behind is, when a predator approaches, the fish
move in a way to create a void bubble in front of it's teeth.
A single fish cannot duplicate this tactic. Here the
predator just pursuits a targetting "trajectory", impossible
with a swarm.

You can observe this, standing in the reefs shallow part,
seeing the swarm from above the surface.
Throw a stone into the swarm's center and watch the fish
vanish away from the point of impact, at the same time
guarding a distinct outer shape.

Matthias
 
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