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Grumman-581 - 16 Nov 2005 06:15 GMT Well, Grace asked me today what we're going to be doing for the Turkey Day vacation... Hadn't planned on anything, but my batting average on Turkey Week Skiing has been pretty crappy the last few years... I saw her previously looking at some junk mail from one of the dive shops with what was probably an overpriced vacation, so I answered, "Uhhh, how about Cozumel?"... She then asked me if I was aware that there was only a few days until the holiday week... So, I answered with (probably mistaken) confidence, "No problem, I'll make it happen, one way or the other"... Well, airfare was cheap enough $354 per person (includes all the fees and taxes -- $268 before)... Hopefully there's a few hotels that didn't get destroyed by Wilma... We'll be arriving Sunday (11/20) and staying for 7 nights... If anyone else is going to be around, drop me a line and we can meet up for a few beers...
Whistler - 16 Nov 2005 06:42 GMT > If anyone else is going to be around, drop me a line and we can meet up for a > few beers... Maybe Bob's perpetual cruise will be able to swing back around by then.
Grumman-581 - 16 Nov 2005 06:54 GMT > Maybe Bob's perpetual cruise will be able to swing back around by then. To each, his own, I guess, but I'm not all that crazy about scheduling my diving around when a ship might be in or pull out of a port... I'm willing compromise enough to schedule it around when my flight arrives and when it departs, but that's about it... If my plane could fly direct across the Gulf without us having to swim the last 100 nm, it would be a lot better... It would be a day's flight, but it wouldn't be that much worse than the delays of flying commercial these days...
So, I guess I should consider what the water temperatures are likely to be in Coz for the next week or so... Cool enough to bring a wetsuit or not? Maybe just wear half of my 5mm FJ?
Suds (Popeye's friend) - 16 Nov 2005 07:45 GMT > So, I guess I should consider what the water temperatures are likely to be > in Coz for the next week or so... Cool enough to bring a wetsuit or not? > Maybe just wear half of my 5mm FJ? First trip to Mexico? <snort>
Grumman-581 - 16 Nov 2005 07:54 GMT "Suds" wrote in message news:NsBef.5822$Hs.954@tornado.socal.rr.com...
> First trip to Mexico? <snort> Nawh, been to Coz a few times before, but always around the May/June timeframe... At that time of the year, "thermal protection" is a t-shirt and trunks... First time to go there in the "winter"... I figure that I'll at least need to bring Grace's wetsuit with us -- she tends to be rather cold natured due to not being naturally insulated... Unfortunately, the only wetsuit that she has is a 7mm FJ... Enough for the springs in Florida, but probably a bit too much even for her in a Cozumel "winter"...
Greg Mossman - 16 Nov 2005 16:32 GMT > "Suds" wrote in message news:NsBef.5822$Hs.954@tornado.socal.rr.com... >> First trip to Mexico? <snort> [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > and > trunks... First time to go there in the "winter"... May/June is spring, when the water is still cooling from the winter. November is still the tail-end of "summer", which is why it's still within hurricane season. Water should be warmer in November than in May. I guess that means you have to dive naked.
Dillon Pyron - 16 Nov 2005 22:49 GMT >"Suds" wrote in message news:NsBef.5822$Hs.954@tornado.socal.rr.com... >> First trip to Mexico? <snort> [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >wetsuit that she has is a 7mm FJ... Enough for the springs in Florida, but >probably a bit too much even for her in a Cozumel "winter"... I mostly wore a fleece last Thanksgiving. Plenty warm, had to unzip from time to time early in the week.
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Whistler - 17 Nov 2005 05:25 GMT >>Maybe Bob's perpetual cruise will be able to swing back around by then. > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > would be a day's flight, but it wouldn't be that much worse than the delays > of flying commercial these days... I say, uh, that was a JOKE, son!
> So, I guess I should consider what the water temperatures are likely to be > in Coz for the next week or so... Cool enough to bring a wetsuit or not? > Maybe just wear half of my 5mm FJ? I hate being cold. I'm thinking of bringing my 7mm to the Caribbean.
Grumman-581 - 17 Nov 2005 08:29 GMT > I say, uh, that was a JOKE, son! I wasn't talking about Bob... I was just commenting on diving while on a cruise ship vacation... I like to have more time in port to do things at my own speed...
I figure I'll bring at least part of my 5mm FJ to Coz so that I won't be chilled when I go exploring the freshwater cave / spring that is south of Chankanaab... I found it the last time I was there, but was too low on air to go very far into it...
Popeye - 17 Nov 2005 10:26 GMT >> I say, uh, that was a JOKE, son! I-I-I know what you're gonna say son. When two halves is gone there's nuthin' left - and you're right. It's a little ol' worm who wasn't there. Two nuthins is nuthin'. That's mathematics son. You can argue with me but you can't argue with figures. Two half nuthins is a whole nuthin'.
> I wasn't talking about Bob... I was just commenting on diving while on a > cruise ship vacation... I like to have more time in port to do things at > my > own speed...
> I figure I'll bring at least part of my 5mm FJ to Coz so that I won't be > chilled when I go exploring the freshwater cave / spring that is south of > Chankanaab... I found it the last time I was there, but was too low on air > to go very far into it... Whistler - 17 Nov 2005 17:54 GMT >>>I say, uh, that was a JOKE, son! > > I-I-I know what you're gonna say son. When two halves is gone there's > nuthin' left - and you're right. It's a little ol' worm who wasn't there. > Two nuthins is nuthin'. That's mathematics son. You can argue with me but > you can't argue with figures. Two half nuthins is a whole nuthin'. Glad to see we all spent our childhoods studying fine lit'rature.
Scott - 17 Nov 2005 17:57 GMT > >>>I say, uh, that was a JOKE, son! > > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Glad to see we all spent our childhoods studying fine lit'rature. That's Foghorn Leghorn.
Take a pill.
Popeye - 17 Nov 2005 18:46 GMT >> >>>I say, uh, that was a JOKE, son! >> > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > That's Foghorn Leghorn. So was his.
> Take a pill. I got some new dope from the Doc, great stuff....
I can sleep at night for the first time in 45 years, makes me wicked horny, and gives just a great sense of well being.
Just like Soma.
Lyrica.
Happy pills.
Wagner would be aghast...
Scott - 17 Nov 2005 20:59 GMT > > That's Foghorn Leghorn. Check your e-mail.
> So was his. > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Wagner would be aghast... Kick down to yo bro's...
Whistler - 18 Nov 2005 02:44 GMT >>Glad to see we all spent our childhoods studying fine lit'rature. > > That's Foghorn Leghorn. Dude, I quoted him first.
> Take a pill. Thanks, I've already got one.
Popeye - 17 Nov 2005 18:48 GMT >>>>I say, uh, that was a JOKE, son! >> [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Glad to see we all spent our childhoods studying fine lit'rature. I rented an Aldus Huxley audio book from the truck stop.
Looked like it had never been opened before, imagine that. :-)
Schmoe - 16 Nov 2005 16:29 GMT > Well, Grace asked me today what we're going to be doing for the > Turkey Day vacation... Hadn't planned on anything, but my batting [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > anyone else is going to be around, drop me a line and we can meet up > for a few beers... Great! Look forward to a report on reef and land damage from the hurricane. I'm going in February. What are the average water temps in Feb at CZM?
Grumman-581 - 16 Nov 2005 17:19 GMT > Great! Look forward to a report on reef and land damage from the hurricane. > I'm going in February. What are the average water temps in Feb at CZM? I'll take some photos of the land and put 'em on the web... I haven't gotten into underwater photography, so I won't be getting any photos of the reefs, but if I see any damage, I'll note it...
Don - 16 Nov 2005 22:24 GMT > Well, Grace asked me today what we're going to be doing for the Turkey Day > vacation... Hadn't planned on anything, but my batting average on Turkey [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > anyone else is going to be around, drop me a line and we can meet up for a > few beers... I doubt I could stand listening to you for more than 10 seconds in bar, but I'd be happy to have a beer or two with your sister Grace.
Grumman-581 - 18 Nov 2005 17:53 GMT > I doubt I could stand listening to you for more than 10 seconds in bar You wouldn't have to... You'd be too busy bleeding... As Scott likes to say, you don't have the balls to run your suck to my face...
> but I'd be happy to have a beer or two with your sister Grace. A bit more distant relationship than sister... Not that you would understand that sort of thing...
Don - 17 Nov 2005 21:30 GMT >> I doubt I could stand listening to you for more than 10 seconds in bar > > You wouldn't have to... You'd be too busy bleeding... As Scott likes to > say, > you don't have the balls to run your suck to my face... "Yawn"...........you a internet bad a.s too inbred? I was being nice giving ya 10 seconds even. Tell me more bout your sister.
Grumman-581 - 19 Nov 2005 10:09 GMT > "Yawn"...........you a internet bad a.s too inbred? Nawh, I'm a psychotic anti-social SOB... Your worst fuckin' nightmare... I've got a truck and a chain and I'm sure there's a strip of asphalt with your name on it... Oh, and by the way, the gator comments that I make AREN'T jokes...
> Tell me more bout your sister. She's so ugly, even *I* wouldn't f.ck her... You're welcome to her... We promise we won't laugh too much at you...
Don - 18 Nov 2005 12:53 GMT >> "Yawn"...........you a internet bad a.s too inbred? > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > AREN'T > jokes... "DANG" thats a real scary description of yourself there inbred. I'll be sure to sleep with one eye open at night. http://www.ecofloridamag.com/askeditor_alligator_attacks2.htm 14 deaths by "gayters" since the 50's and these things scare you? More people die in bathtubs.................is this why you filthy southern people dont take showers either?
>> Tell me more bout your sister. > > She's so ugly, even *I* wouldn't f.ck her... You're welcome to her... We > promise we won't laugh too much at you... Jeeeeezas christ inbred. Mention the word sister and the word f.cking comes right to mind for ya huh? Ah well.........its a southern thang rhat????????. Curious though...........can i f.ck your pig of a Mother as well?
Grumman-581 - 19 Nov 2005 19:09 GMT > Curious though...........can i f.ck your pig of a Mother as well? Hmmm... Sounds like you have serious a cobweb fetish...
Don - 18 Nov 2005 23:36 GMT >> Curious though...........can i f.ck your pig of a Mother as well? > > Hmmm... Sounds like you have serious a cobweb fetish... Sounds like you know exactly what the filthy whore's snatch looks like. Not surprised.........im sure lots of inbreds do.
bob crownfield - 21 Nov 2005 17:59 GMT >>> Curious though...........can i f.ck your pig of a Mother as well? >> Hmmm... Sounds like you have serious a cobweb fetish... >> > Sounds like you know exactly what the filthy whore's snatch looks like. Not > surprised.........im sure lots of inbreds do. your mother must be so proud of you and your behavior...
Scott - 21 Nov 2005 18:06 GMT > Dingleberry Don wrote: nothing worth repeating, again.
> your mother must be so proud of you and your behavior... I'd love to meet this cuntbubble face to face.
Greg Mossman - 21 Nov 2005 18:27 GMT >> Dingleberry Don wrote: nothing worth repeating, again. > >> your mother must be so proud of you and your behavior... > > I'd love to meet this cuntbubble face to face. Why? Don't you have anything better to do with your time?
cavey_curtis@$$ yahoo.com - 21 Nov 2005 23:08 GMT >> I'd love to meet this cuntbubble face to face. > > Why? Don't you have anything better to do with your time? I'd waste time to watch.......
Curtis
Scott - 21 Nov 2005 23:31 GMT > >> I'd love to meet this cuntbubble face to face.
> > Why? Don't you have anything better to do with your time? He asks, as he wastes his precious and valuable time slinging more sh.t.
> I'd waste time to watch....... It's be a hoot.
I'd love to get together with Greg too; so he culd run his bigger than me, court appointed bully act to my face.
Difference is, I wouldnt call the cops and sue if he somehow managed to kick my a.s.
Which he cant.
Greg Mossman - 22 Nov 2005 06:12 GMT >> > Why? Don't you have anything better to do with your time? > > He asks, as he wastes his precious and valuable time slinging more sh.t. Actually I was being serious for change. Seriously, don't you have anything better to do than fight anonymous newsgroup posters. It sounds like a real waste of time to me.
> I'd love to get together with Greg too; so he culd run his bigger than me, > court appointed bully act to my face. So I culd run his bigger than me?
Sorry, boyo. You are cracked and whacked and a waste of my time except for the few times when I feel like wasting my time.
For internet posterity, of course I could kick your a.s, one finger, whoopdedoo.
> Difference is, I wouldnt call the cops and sue if he somehow managed to > kick > my a.s. > > Which he cant. Whoopdedoo.
Moron.
Dillon Pyron - 22 Nov 2005 02:40 GMT >>> I'd love to meet this cuntbubble face to face. >> [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >Curtis I'd pay a buck for that.
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Scott - 22 Nov 2005 02:59 GMT > >>> I'd love to meet this cuntbubble face to face. > >> [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > > I'd pay a buck for that. That's three men to two pussies.
Do I hear five?
Don - 22 Nov 2005 04:12 GMT >> >>> I'd love to meet this cuntbubble face to face. >> >> [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Do I hear five? Hear this............. I am witnessing a wonderful PNW sunset;
A hundred thousand layers with a million colors.
Deepest blue to the slightest pink.
No political party, no nations, no hatred, no religion, just a bitchin sunset.
ISNT THAT SPECIAL????????DID SOMEONE SAY PUSSY??????????? TOO FUCKIN FUNNY FAGGIT!!!! DEEPEST BLUE TO THE SLIGHTEST PINK.............BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!OH sh.t THATS FUNNY!!!!!!!!! PLEASE FAGGIT.....I DONT ASK OFTEN......KILLFILE ME.............I WILL sh.t ON YOU FOR THE REST OF YOUR MISERABLE PATHETIC WORTHLESS LIFE WITH THAT QUOTE.
Dillon Pyron - 25 Nov 2005 05:22 GMT >>> >>> I'd love to meet this cuntbubble face to face. >>> >> [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] >ME.............I WILL sh.t ON YOU FOR THE REST OF YOUR MISERABLE PATHETIC >WORTHLESS LIFE WITH THAT QUOTE. Tell you what, Don. Name the place and time. Any place, any time. You choose the weapons, or we can go toe to toe, knuckle to knuckle.
How do you find time for Usenet, between all your trips to the park men's room?
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Scott - 25 Nov 2005 05:25 GMT > Tell you what, Don. Name the place and time. Any place, any time. > You choose the weapons, or we can go toe to toe, knuckle to knuckle. Never happen. Don doesnt pack the gear to do anything but sling sophomoric sh.t on USENET.
> How do you find time for Usenet, between all your trips to the park > men's room? mwheh
Grumman-581 - 28 Nov 2005 18:02 GMT > Never happen. Don doesnt pack the gear to do anything but sling sophomoric > sh.t on USENET. That's sophomore in high school, right?
Just got back from Cozumel late Sunday night... Was supposed to have been a 2 hour flight from CZM to IAH, but they changed the flight on us to go to Cancun... f.ck... If I had wanted to got to Cancun, I would have booked at flight there... Made for a 3 hour trip instead of a 2 hour one... Of course, even more than 3 hours was spent going through security at CZM and Immigration at IAH... CZM didn't have checked baggage x-ray machines, so they were hand searching *every* bag that you checked... It took me awhile to convince them that the power supply that I had with an 8 Ah 12VDC battery in it was indeed allowed on the flight because it was a non-spillable battery... One thing that I noticed in Cancun though was that the folliage on the trees in the jungle did not seem to sustain the amount of damage that I had seen to the trees in Cozumel... There was noticeably more greenery there than on the Cozumel trees... The hurricane had gone right up the channel between Cancun and Cozumel and I suspect that being on the "clean" side of the storm made a bit of a difference...
We stayed in Hotel Cozumel & Resort... It was pretty much the only large hotel that was back up and running so far... Some of the smaller hotels in town were open from what I understood... Our hotel was right across the main road from the beach with a private beach area and dock for the dive boats... The beach area sustained quite a bit of damage, but they were creating forms for pouring a lot of concrete while we were there... They seem to be learning lessons from the hurricane and building the replacement items out of thicker concrete... We were one of the first guests at the hotel since they had reopened after the hurricane... They spent about a month getting everything repaired enough that they could have a limited reopening... They were still doing a lot of construction... Each morning around 08:30-09:00, you would hear them start up hammering or whatever in the rooms down the hallway... They said that they want to get everything ready for their "high season" starting around the latter part of December...
I had reserved a car via Budget for the 7 days ($125.40) and drove around the island quite a bit... The car seemed fairly new and the air-conditioner worked very well, so it was a pretty good deal... I suspect that many of their previous cars were flooded and they brought new ones in from the mainland... The damage to some of the buildings were fairly obvious, but others you kind of had to wonder if they looked all that much different prior to the hurricane... Not everywhere flooded on the island... Some homes and businesses managed to escape being flooded... Some of the low lying areas supposedly took a couple of weeks to dry out... Some of the very well constructed buildings didn't appear to have sustained *any* damage... Some of the smaller local shops away from the coast lost their roofs if they were not made from concrete, but those seem to have been repaired quickly... The coastal road was closed from just north of Punta Sur to a couple miles south of the road across the island... They have a lot of people and equipment working on it, but it appears that quite a few sections were washed out... The Allegro resort has quite a bit of damage... They were hit pretty hard by Emily and had nearly completed the repairs from it when they got hit by Wilma... Many of the docks along the island were seriously damaged... Of course, this gives a bit more bottom structure along the coast and as such perhaps more fish when you're shore diving... The Navy facility is is pretty bad shape and it appears that they moved their personnel to a facility further inland... I did not notice any of the hotels on the northern end of the island as being open yet, although there was quite a bit of repair work going on... The harbor had two sunken pilot boats in it... The wooden sailing boat had been supposedly sunk in the harbor, but it had been patched with plywood and refloated and they were working on it when I went by there... The storm had stripped most of the leaves from the trees around the island, so it kind of looked like they had experienced Autumn and the leaves had dropped... Not quite though since the smaller limbs had disappeared also... They've trimmed back the broken limbs... The trees are starting to bud again, so I suspect that since it's a tropical climate, within a year things will be green again... Chancanab was seriously hit... The old coastal road is washed out in various places around there... By the time I found an alternate route to the cenote to the south of Chancanab, it was Saturday evening, so I didn't get a chance to dive it this trip... One of the local DMs said that the cave went about a mile into the mainland from there... The first two days we were there, the water was very choppy on the west side of the island -- perhaps 5 ft between the tops and bottoms of the waves at time... I figured that the east side of the island would have better conditions, so we headed over there to do some shore dives... They had nice breaking waves over there, but was fairly smooth out past the surf zone... It would have probably been pretty good surfing conditions... Towing Kaitlyn through the surf zone sucked though... I snorkeled along the west coast on one of the days when the water was too choppy for the dive boats to come up to what was left of the pier... Needed to time the waves just right to keep from getting beat to death going out or coming back in...
The deeper reefs haven't been damaged that much... One diver commented on the absence of sea fans after the hurricane... The shallower reefs are a bit sandy, but they should clear out soon enough... One of the DMs said that at least one of the shallower reefs has completely disappeared... The dives we did didn't seem to have the current speed that I had experienced in previous years... They didn't really end up being drift dives -- we pretty much had to swim to move along the reef in the dive... The quantity of marine life did not seem to be as high as it had been before the hurricane... The variety of marine life seemed about the same, but there just didn't seem to be as many of them... Saw a couple of very large lobsters that I would have liked to invite home for dinner... One very large sea turtle and other smaller ones that were perhaps 2 ft in length... Saw a couple of eagle rays off in the distance as I was swimming along one of the walls at around 110 ft... The largest had perhaps a 6-8 ft wingspan... The barracudas that I saw were mainly the smaller variety -- perhaps 2-3 ft in length... Saw one nerf shark -- perhaps 7-8 ft in length... Various smaller moray eels... Octopus... Scorpion fish... Variety, but not necessarily quantity...
Grace didn't think she would need a wetsuit... I brought it anyway... By the end of the first dive, she was shivering and her legs had started to cramp... She hates it when I'm right...
Joe English - 29 Nov 2005 00:21 GMT . She hates it when I'm right...
so do I
Don - 29 Nov 2005 02:54 GMT >> Never happen. Don doesnt pack the gear to do anything but sling >> sophomoric [quoted text clipped - 138 lines] > end of the first dive, she was shivering and her legs had started to > cramp... She hates it when I'm right... Here's some more sophomoric sh.t for ya.............You went Mc Diving in Cozumel!!!!Who gives a f.ck?????????????????? I do however hope your sister Grace had a nice time.
Grumman-581 - 29 Nov 2005 04:31 GMT <nothing-of-importance> ... <again>
Schmoe - 29 Nov 2005 16:35 GMT >> Never happen. Don doesnt pack the gear to do anything but sling >> sophomoric sh.t on USENET. > > That's sophomore in high school, right? > > Just got back from Cozumel late Sunday night... Thanks for the excellent report. Can you offer some specifics about the Hotel Cozumel you stayed at? Cost? Condition? Location?
Grumman-581 - 08 Dec 2005 06:28 GMT > Thanks for the excellent report. Can you offer some specifics about the > Hotel Cozumel you stayed at? Cost? Condition? Location? Since we didn't know how much of the island was back up after the hurricane, we did the all inclusive plan... It cost us $828 for the three of us for the 7 nights, reserved via FunJet... The hotel's website is http://www.hotelcozumel.us/index3.php... The rental car was via Budget, reserved via the Continental website when I booked the flight and was $125.40... Continental's site seems to think that Budget is actually located *on* the airport, but it hasn't been there for quite a few years... It's not that far of a walk from the airport (it's on the north side of downtown and perhaps 2 or 3 streets from the beach road) or you can pay $2 for a taxi ride... The hotel is located about a block or so south of the big grocery store on the beach road... The bar and restaraunt portion of the hotel on the beach was under construction, rebuilding from the hurricane... The kid's center and tennis courts were damaged pretty bad and were being reconstructed... At that time, most of the 180 or so rooms in the hotel were under repair with perhaps a quarter of them having been repaired and ready for guests... From what I was able to determine, they came out the best of any of the larger hotels...
Scott - 29 Nov 2005 16:45 GMT > > Never happen. Don doesnt pack the gear to do anything but sling sophomoric > > sh.t on USENET. > > That's sophomore in high school, right? At best.
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I'll take infrequent earthquakes and volcano's, rather than yearly hurricanes.
If you really want a great diving vacation that you can take the family on, check out St Lucia.
Greg Mossman - 29 Nov 2005 20:02 GMT > If you really want a great diving vacation that you can take the family > on, > check out St Lucia. ?
Don - 25 Nov 2005 15:39 GMT >>>> >>> I'd love to meet this cuntbubble face to face. >>>> >> [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > Tell you what, Don. Name the place and time. Any place, any time. > You choose the weapons, or we can go toe to toe, knuckle to knuckle. You an internet bad a.s too? While I'd love nothing more than to take a basball bat to your head, I'll pass on the "guys meeting guys" thing. I could hook you up with a fat overweight trucker in here if you'd like. Just lemme know.
> How do you find time for Usenet, between all your trips to the park > men's room? Greg Mossman - 22 Nov 2005 06:08 GMT >>> I'd love to meet this cuntbubble face to face. >> >> Why? Don't you have anything better to do with your time? > > I'd waste time to watch....... That's nice. Most of us have evolved from the gladiator days, but given the numbers that still watch TV football and golf and the like, apparently we're not completely bereft of our animalistic tendencies. I guess I could be persuaded to watch a good bloody match featuring Scott against whoever. It might even be fun to put money on it and let me recruit "worthy" opponents. All we need is an out-of-the-way arena and we could have rec.scuba death matches. Just make sure I get dibs on one of the skyboxes.
cavey_curtis@$$ yahoo.com - 22 Nov 2005 21:53 GMT >> I'd waste time to watch....... > > That's nice. Most of us have evolved from the gladiator days Condescending motherf..ker today, aren't we?
Guess that's why we have football, soccer, hockey, wrestling, ultimate fighting, karate, boxing, etc. We have "evolved" as far as they're not (usually) death sports, but it does seem that competition by proxie is alive and well.
Curtis
Scott - 22 Nov 2005 22:05 GMT > >> I'd waste time to watch.......
> > That's nice. Most of us have evolved from the gladiator days That's what all pussies like you say.
You're a big boy, and used not only to bullying people verbally, but if anyone dare give you the fat lip you need, you're going to hide behind the skirts of justice and sue. All bluff, no balls.
That makes you the cowards coward.
> Condescending motherf..ker today, aren't we? Every day. The bigots bigot.
> Guess that's why we have football, soccer, hockey, wrestling, ultimate > fighting, karate, boxing, etc. We have "evolved" as far as they're not > (usually) death sports, but it does seem that competition by proxie is alive > and well. You have to undertsand Greg fights his battles in a courtroom, here he just runs his suck under the threat of lawsuit.
Which, thanks to shitbags like him, have less than nothing to do with truth, justice, honesty or decency.
Hence his disconnection with reality.
Greg Mossman - 22 Nov 2005 22:52 GMT >> >> I'd waste time to watch....... > >> > That's nice. Most of us have evolved from the gladiator days > > That's what all pussies like you say. You're such an impressive he-man, I'm gonna swoon. Gosh, a.s kicking is such a manly thing, just like chewin' tobacco and driving a real big monster truck and watching the WWF while drinking shitty beer in a can. I bet all the hillbillies think you're really cool.
(Doesn't it bother you that you're a walking caricature? Something we yuppie tourists point at and giggle when we drive our new SUVs through the countryside?)
chilly - 22 Nov 2005 22:19 GMT > Guess that's why we have football, soccer, hockey, wrestling, ultimate > fighting, karate, boxing, etc. We have "evolved" as far as they're not > (usually) death sports, but it does seem that competition by proxie is alive > and well. Maybe he just doesn't think a couple of internet weanies going toe to toe is on par.
cavey_curtis@$$ yahoo.com - 22 Nov 2005 22:36 GMT > Maybe he just doesn't think a couple of internet weanies going toe to toe > is > on par. Then he's just joining the conversation to play JF?
Cuirtis
Scott - 22 Nov 2005 23:07 GMT > > Guess that's why we have football, soccer, hockey, wrestling, ultimate > > fighting, karate, boxing, etc. We have "evolved" as far as they're not [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Maybe he just doesn't think a couple of internet weanies going toe to toe is > on par. Who you calling a weenie, bitch?
Greg Mossman - 23 Nov 2005 01:12 GMT >> Maybe he just doesn't think a couple of internet weanies going toe to toe > is >> on par. > > Who you calling a weenie, bitch? She said "weanie", which I would take to be someone who acts so childish that he obviously hasn't been weaned. A weenie is a hot dog, which only resembles you on the intelligence scale.
Greg Mossman - 22 Nov 2005 22:35 GMT >>> I'd waste time to watch....... >> >> That's nice. Most of us have evolved from the gladiator days > > Condescending motherf..ker today, aren't we? Aren't I always? But I put myself at the same level by agreeing to pay money to see the Curtis vs. Scott deathmatch, or Popeye vs. Scott deathmatch, or even Jammer vs. Scott deathmatch.
> Guess that's why we have football, soccer, hockey, wrestling, ultimate > fighting, karate, boxing, etc. We have "evolved" as far as they're not > (usually) death sports, but it does seem that competition by proxie is > alive and well. Masses will be masses. I guess we haven't come very far after all. Personally, I'd rather watch mediocre porn over a boxing match any day. Nude female mud wrestling is more my style. I'm just fail to see the attraction of watching two steroid-pumped sweaty guys practice crotch holds on each other, not that there's anything wrong with that.
cavey_curtis@$$ yahoo.com - 23 Nov 2005 00:23 GMT >> Condescending motherf..ker today, aren't we? > > Aren't I always? Now that you mention it.......
> But I put myself at the same level by agreeing to pay money to see the > Curtis vs. Scott deathmatch, or Popeye vs. Scott deathmatch, or even > Jammer vs. Scott deathmatch. Doubt you'd get me into the schedule.
>> Guess that's why we have football, soccer, hockey, wrestling, ultimate >> fighting, karate, boxing, etc. We have "evolved" as far as they're not >> (usually) death sports, but it does seem that competition by proxie is >> alive and well.
> Masses will be masses. I guess we haven't come very far after all. Then you miss some distinct differences, as long as you exclude hockey. ;-)
> Personally, I'd rather watch mediocre porn over a boxing match any day. > Nude female mud wrestling is more my style. I'm just fail to see the > attraction of watching two steroid-pumped sweaty guys practice crotch > holds on each other, not that there's anything wrong with that. You're diverging from the original comments.
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Scott - 23 Nov 2005 00:27 GMT > You're diverging from the original comments. As always, and injecting integers that had nothing to do with the comments made.
cavey_curtis@$$ yahoo.com - 23 Nov 2005 00:46 GMT >> You're diverging from the original comments. > > As always, and injecting integers that had nothing to do with the comments > made. Maybe, but I'm guilty sometimes too. ;-)
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Greg Mossman - 23 Nov 2005 01:10 GMT > You're diverging from the original comments. Divergence is healthy. Stop being so damned conservative. If you had your way, we'd all still be gorillas. Instead, only some of us are.
cavey_curtis@$$ yahoo.com - 24 Nov 2005 16:16 GMT > Divergence is healthy. Stop being so damned conservative. If you had > your way, we'd all still be gorillas. Instead, only some of us are. Wrong, no "us" involved.......my kind of gorilla is a title, not a name, and needs to be awarded by people of status. ;-)
BTW, diverging and diversity not synonymous.
Happy Turkey Day!
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JOF - 23 Nov 2005 03:12 GMT >> Masses will be masses. I guess we haven't come very far after all. > > Then you miss some distinct differences, as long as you exclude hockey. You play, or are you just a fan? Strikes me it's a game that would appeal to a tough guy like you. If you could skate well enough, and think fast enough to compete, with your size you might have been drafted.
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Scott - 23 Nov 2005 04:09 GMT > >> Masses will be masses. I guess we haven't come very far after all. > > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > think fast enough to compete, with your size you might have been > drafted. 90% of Us couldnt give a f.ck less about hockey.
Don - 23 Nov 2005 12:24 GMT >> >> Masses will be masses. I guess we haven't come very far after all. >> > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > 90% of Us couldnt give a f.ck less about hockey. Most women don't like hockey....Mens figure skating more your style faggit???
Popeye - 22 Nov 2005 12:00 GMT >>> Dingleberry Don wrote: nothing worth repeating, again. >> [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Why? Don't you have anything better to do with your time? I don't.
Don - 22 Nov 2005 00:10 GMT >> Dingleberry Don wrote: nothing worth repeating, again. > >> your mother must be so proud of you and your behavior... > > I'd love to meet this cuntbubble face to face. Popeyes cumdumpster is an internet bad a.s too???? Whats the world come to?????
Schmoe - 19 Nov 2005 14:44 GMT >> Tell me more bout your sister. > > She's so ugly, even *I* wouldn't f.ck her... You're welcome to her... We > promise we won't laugh too much at you... -She's so ugly I wouldn't f.ck her with Bea Arthur's dick.
(stolen from a Comedy Central roast)
mcdonald606a@yahoo.com - 17 Nov 2005 21:28 GMT Good source of Cozumel Information
http://www.stormcarib.com/reports/2005/mexico.shtml
> Well, Grace asked me today what we're going to be doing for the Turkey Day > vacation... Hadn't planned on anything, but my batting average on Turkey [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > anyone else is going to be around, drop me a line and we can meet up for a > few beers...
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