Home | Contact Us | FAQ | Search & Site Map | Link to Us
Sign In | Join | Other 45 Sites in Network
Home
ArticlesDiving DestinationsLearning Scuba DivingMarine LifeMiscellaneous
Discussion GroupsGeneralScuba EquipmentScuba LocationsAustralian ScubaUK Scuba
DirectoryScuba Clubs

Scuba Forum / General / October 2005

Tip: Looking for answers? Try searching our database.

Them salt water crocs are nasty

Thread view: 
Enable EMail Alerts  Start New Thread
Thread rating: 
Dillon Pyron - 04 Oct 2005 23:52 GMT
http://www.cdnn.info/news/safety/s051001.html

A MAN killed by a crocodile on Thursday died from a single bite to
the head and probably did not feel a thing.

Ouch!
Signature

dillon

Anyone who says grown men don't cry has never
taken a differential equations final.

Greg Mossman - 05 Oct 2005 01:16 GMT
> A MAN killed by a crocodile on Thursday died from a single bite to
> the head and probably did not feel a thing.

So?  I've eaten alligator (only a single bite) probably killed from a single
blow (or bullet) to the head by a MAN.  That's Lizards 1 MAN 1.  Doesn't
sound very nasty to me.
H Huntzinger - 05 Oct 2005 12:53 GMT
> > A MAN killed by a crocodile on Thursday died from a single bite to
> > the head and probably did not feel a thing.
>
> So?  I've eaten alligator (only a single bite) probably killed from a single
> blow (or bullet) to the head by a MAN.  That's Lizards 1 MAN 1.  Doesn't
> sound very nasty to me.

From the article:

"He was the second man to be killed by a crocodile in the Territory in
five days."

In any event, the incident sounds fairly similar to California/PNW
incidents of freediver / Great White Shark:  the divers know that
they're in a higher-risk environment, and there's the occasional ambush
by Apex predator that shows what the risk is.

-hh
Greg Mossman - 05 Oct 2005 17:20 GMT
> From the article:
>
> "He was the second man to be killed by a crocodile in the Territory in
> five days."

Obviously I didn't read the article.

> In any event, the incident sounds fairly similar to California/PNW
> incidents of freediver / Great White Shark:  the divers know that
> they're in a higher-risk environment, and there's the occasional ambush
> by Apex predator that shows what the risk is.

Not just freedivers.  We SoCal scuba divers are putting ourselves at great
risk as well, but it's well worth it so we can talk about it later and sound
real manly.
cavey_curtis@$$ yahoo.com - 05 Oct 2005 20:36 GMT
> Not just freedivers.  We SoCal scuba divers are putting ourselves at great
> risk as well, but it's well worth it so we can talk about it later and
> sound real manly.

   Fool anyone yet?

Curtis
Greg Mossman - 05 Oct 2005 21:00 GMT
>> Not just freedivers.  We SoCal scuba divers are putting ourselves at
>> great risk as well, but it's well worth it so we can talk about it later
>> and sound real manly.
>
>    Fool anyone yet?

So says the guy who only dives in freshwater holes so the sharks can't get
to him.
Grumman-581 - 06 Oct 2005 00:27 GMT
> So says the guy who only dives in freshwater holes so the sharks can't get
> to him.

Wrong-o... I dove with Curtis at Blue Springs (and nearly stepped on a
manatee in the process)... If the manatee could make it up from the ocean, a
shark could also...
Geo - 07 Oct 2005 02:49 GMT
> > So says the guy who only dives in freshwater holes so the sharks can't get
> > to him.
>
> Wrong-o... I dove with Curtis at Blue Springs (and nearly stepped on a
> manatee in the process)... If the manatee could make it up from the ocean, a
> shark could also...

Not over many sharks that like fresh or brackish water. A bull shark
comes to mind, not sure what others...

George
Pat - 07 Oct 2005 03:25 GMT
>> > So says the guy who only dives in freshwater holes so the sharks can't
>> > get
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>
> George

A small Great White was caught in a brackish lake in Australia a few weeks
back.  The scientists said it was probably lost and is not a common
occurrence.

Pat
cavey_curtis@$$ yahoo.com - 07 Oct 2005 03:27 GMT
> Not over many sharks that like fresh or brackish water. A bull shark
> comes to mind, not sure what others...

   Damn sure not lawyer/sharks, they find myriad excuses to avoid it.

   We do get alligators, but even without I suspect "our manly bragging
rights" are there just for going under the limestone, if that's what one
seeks.  Greg cannot claim it for diving with sharks, professional courtesy &
such.

   Personally though, I do it just for the love of diving the passages, and
the total detachment from the surface world, get my adrenaline rushes in
different ways.

Curtis
Greg Mossman - 07 Oct 2005 17:15 GMT
>    Personally though, I do it just for the love of diving the passages,
> and the total detachment from the surface world, get my adrenaline rushes
> in different ways.

I think it's because you have a grizzly bear somewhere up in your family
tree, giving you an unnatural desire to inhabit caves (not to mention the
obvious physical clues).
Grumman-581 - 07 Oct 2005 06:38 GMT
> Not over many sharks that like fresh or brackish water. A bull shark
> comes to mind, not sure what others...

Yeah, that's what I was thinking of... I seem to remember a case where a
bull shark was found quite a distance up a river at one time... Far enough
that the water wasn't even brackish anymore...
Matthias Voss - 07 Oct 2005 07:02 GMT
>>Not over many sharks that like fresh or brackish water. A bull shark
>>comes to mind, not sure what others...
>
> Yeah, that's what I was thinking of... I seem to remember a case where a
> bull shark was found quite a distance up a river at one time... Far enough
> that the water wasn't even brackish anymore...

That is why they are called Zambezi sharks somewhere else.

Matthias
H Huntzinger - 07 Oct 2005 12:17 GMT
> >>Not over many sharks that like fresh or brackish water. A bull shark
> >>comes to mind, not sure what others...
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> >
> That is why they are called Zambezi sharks somewhere else.

In July 1916, there were five shark attacks (four were fatal) in NJ in
very quick succession which caused a local panic.  

There's two books, "Close to Shore" and "12 Days of Terror".  I can't
find which one I have (I might have both?), but it was a good read.  

My recollection is that one of the last attacks occurred several miles
up one of the local rivers...the number that sticks in my head for some
reason is 12 miles.

"The" shark was reportedly 9-12 feet long, and there's been speculation
on if it was a bull or a young great white, although the general
conclusion appears GW, based on one that was killed nearby shortly after
the last attack, as its stomach contents were analyzed and there were
reportedly items within that matched some of the victims.

http://www.njhm.com/matawanmaneater.htm

-hh
Limey - 07 Oct 2005 14:01 GMT
>> >>Not over many sharks that like fresh or brackish water. A bull shark
>> >>comes to mind, not sure what others...
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>> >
>> That is why they are called Zambezi sharks somewhere else.

Zambezi shark and Ganges shark. Both after the estuaries they are found in.

>snip<
>
> My recollection is that one of the last attacks occurred several miles
> up one of the local rivers...the number that sticks in my head for some
> reason is 12 miles.

They have been reported being seen some 1800 miles up the Mississippi, in
Illinois and even further up the Amazon.

LD.
Grumman-581 - 07 Oct 2005 18:50 GMT
> They have been reported being seen some 1800 miles up the Mississippi, in
> Illinois and even further up the Amazon.

That is definitely outside the range of brackish water... If they can make
it that far, they wouldn't have a problem making it up to Blue Springs...
Might be a problem if they developed a taste for manatee...
nitespark - 05 Oct 2005 01:17 GMT
> http://www.cdnn.info/news/safety/s051001.html
>
>  A MAN killed by a crocodile on Thursday died from a single bite to
> the head and probably did not feel a thing.
>
> Ouch!

Not likely any time for ouch.  I know alligators bite and spin.  Do
crocs do the same?  If so, I would imagine he would also have suffered a
broken neck making it a tossup as to cause of death.
Greg Mossman - 05 Oct 2005 02:40 GMT
> Not likely any time for ouch.  I know alligators bite and spin.  Do crocs
> do the same?  If so, I would imagine he would also have suffered a broken
> neck making it a tossup as to cause of death.

They tossup the bodies into the air?  That would make for good video.
Pat - 06 Oct 2005 22:58 GMT
>> Not likely any time for ouch.  I know alligators bite and spin.  Do crocs
>> do the same?  If so, I would imagine he would also have suffered a broken
>> neck making it a tossup as to cause of death.
>
> They tossup the bodies into the air?  That would make for good video.

Salt water crocs spin but they also have enormous jaw pressure.
There was another attack the other day where a 10 year old girl was attacked
but survived.

Pat
Greg Mossman - 07 Oct 2005 02:27 GMT
> Salt water crocs spin but they also have enormous jaw pressure.
> There was another attack the other day where a 10 year old girl was
> attacked but survived.

She wasn't ripe yet.
 
Sign In
Join
My Latest Posts
My Monitored Threads
My Blog
My Photo Gallery
My Profile
My Homepage

Start New Thread
Enable EMail Alerts
Rate this Thread



©2008 Advenet LLC   Privacy Policy - Terms of Use
This website includes both content owned or controlled by Advenet as well as content owned or controlled by third parties.