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Scuba Forum / General / October 2005YOUPPI!!! PADI OWD certified
Yes, I'm certified and looking forward to go for the AOW... STF > Yes, I'm certified and looking forward to go for the AOW... Remember one thing; You have a learners permit. OK, two things; The enthusiasm you feel now is the best tool the dive shops have to sell you all the sh.t you need to make a few bucks on ebay later. >Yes, I'm certified and looking forward to go for the AOW... > >STF Go diving, first. There's no real skills review in AOW, but I expect everyone to have the basics down.  Signaturedillon Pain is Nature's way of saying "that was stupid" >>Yes, I'm certified and looking forward to go for the AOW... >> >>STF > > Go diving, first. There's no real skills review in AOW, but I expect > everyone to have the basics down. Congratulations on your certification. The above advice is good: get some experience now and you'll get more out of the AOW later. m > Yes, I'm certified and looking forward to go for the AOW... Congrats, now get wet and have fun......save the AOW for a while. LD. Why jump in and get your AOW? I read that most divers never dive in water deeper than 60 feet. Your PADI OW should cover that. Someone told me that PADI really stands for "Put Another Dollar In." Get some dives in before you decide to put another dollar in. If I were you I'd buy my own equipment or upgrade the gear I have and start diving local shore dives. Go places, meet people, do things... Nitrox might be a cert worth pursuing. I hear you can double your bottom time. Now that is worth putting another dollar in. I don't know if PADI teaches it though. Dive safe! Mike Jarrells > Someone told me that PADI really stands for "Put Another Dollar In." > Get some dives in before you decide to put another dollar in. > > Mike Jarrells To be fair I would like to say that I received my Open Water Diver certification through PADI. I had a positive experience and I recommend PADI if you are considering getting your SCUBA certification. I can't speak for all PADI schools, but the one I went to was taught by an honest and experienced diver. He was so honest that he talked his students into not buying pricey & useless equipment. Dive safe! Mike Jarrells >Why jump in and get your AOW? I read that most divers never dive in >water deeper than 60 feet. Your PADI OW should cover that. > >Someone told me that PADI really stands for "Put Another Dollar In." >Get some dives in before you decide to put another dollar in. Yup. I always tell my students to call 800 PAY PADI >If I were you I'd buy my own equipment or upgrade the gear I have and >start diving local shore dives. Go places, meet people, do things... I'd start by renting. Find out what you like and don't like. Nothing like spending $400 on a BC that doesn't fit. >Nitrox might be a cert worth pursuing. I hear you can double your >bottom time. Now that is worth putting another dollar in. I don't >know if PADI teaches it though. Most places require an "advanced" certification to do nitrox. But that's still something for the future. Right now should be about diving. And it's not double. No where near. >Dive safe! > >Mike Jarrells Signaturedillon Pain is Nature's way of saying "that was stupid" > >Why jump in and get your AOW? I read that most divers never dive in > >water deeper than 60 feet. Your PADI OW should cover that. [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > > And it's not double. No where near. I wonder what jarrells is trying to pursuade us idiots to do? ;^) Chilly, Why do you think you're an idiot? I don't think you are. You seem to be a very articulate and intelligent person. I don't think the readers of this newsgroup are idiots. I come here to learn from them and share what little knowledge and experience I have. I look forward to learning from the knowledge and experience you and others share in this forum. I hope we can all learn from each other. Dive safe! Mike Jarrells > Chilly, > > Why do you think you're an idiot? Honey, I don't think *I'm* an idiot. > I don't think you are. You seem to > be a very articulate and intelligent person. That's good to know. But after all, you are the one that said: "Wow. I could waste a lot of time worrying or trying to persuade idiots. I'll pass on both. Peace." Since you don't know how to quote, I was just wondering what idiots you thought you were trying to pursuade and what that pursuasion was. > I don't think the readers of this newsgroup are idiots. I come here to > learn from them and share what little knowledge and experience I have. Buckle up, sugar. It's going to be a bumpy ride. > I look forward to learning from the knowledge and experience you and > others share in this forum. I hope we can all learn from each other. First lesson . . .(and I can't believe I'm saying this) . . . take the cotton out of your ears and put it in your mouth. > Dive safe! So far so good. > First lesson . . .(and I can't believe I'm saying this) . . . take the > cotton out of your ears and put it in your mouth. CTMRH Even a few of us that have been here a while can learn from that one. Ah, the taste of cotton in the morning....... Curtis >> First lesson . . .(and I can't believe I'm saying this) . . . take the >> cotton out of your ears and put it in your mouth. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > >Curtis I remember having cotton mouth in high school. Frequently after lunch. Signaturedillon Pain is Nature's way of saying "that was stupid" > I remember having cotton mouth in high school. Frequently after > lunch. Tennis courts... >>> First lesson . . .(and I can't believe I'm saying this) . . . take the >>> cotton out of your ears and put it in your mouth. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > I remember having cotton mouth in high school. Frequently after > lunch. I'm having that very problem as we speak... > I'm having that very problem as we speak... But you survived Boise? Curtis Lost ... jeje >> I'm having that very problem as we speak... > > But you survived Boise? Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaa... Not by much. > Curtis > First lesson . . .(and I can't believe I'm saying this) . . . take the > cotton out of your ears and put it in your mouth. ROFL! There is hope... :) > First lesson . . .(and I can't believe I'm saying this) . . . take the > cotton out of your ears and put it in your mouth. BUSTED! I am a new cert too , i see a lot of equipment in Ebay , but this is only a quuestion ... If you have the $Buck$ , is really necesary to take the chance with uses equipment? remember that we are new in this area and someone could give us bottler for apples... , hey guys is just a question , don't take bad ... make a good advice and i will take that too.. > I am a new cert too , i see a lot of equipment in Ebay , but this is > only a quuestion ... [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > could give us bottler for apples... , hey guys is just a question , > don't take bad ... make a good advice and i will take that too.. Its generally a good idea to *not* buy a lot of equipment right after you get certified. Reasons and rationales for this can vary...from being regionally located someplace where "dive travel" is more common than "local diving", for example. However, one of the IMO better reasons to rent for awhile is because you'll gain some experience - preferably with varying equipment types - so as to help you to determine on your own what you like/dislike and what's important for your type of diving. Deferring also gives you a chance to "shop around", instead of being promptly herded by your local dive instructor's diveshop affiliation into just one brand and just one model to choose from. Yes, it is very important to be able to receive good maintenance service on dive gear ... the best regulator in the world will turn into a piece of trash if you don't have a good local maintainer ... but there's usually enough diveshop competition, as well as other factors, that don't necessarily restrict you to just the two choices in today's display case. Insofar as Ebay, it can be a challenge to find a good value, plus as with any used gear, you're probably not getting any OEM warranty. Too much depends on the specifics, which means that its probably better saved for more experienced buyers, which generally means here more experienced divers. For example, the reason that that drysuit is for sale on Ebay may very well be because its really a 'dampsuit' and its owner hasn't had any luck in finding the leak! -hh > I am a new cert too , i see a lot of equipment in Ebay , but this is > only a quuestion ... [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > could give us bottler for apples... , hey guys is just a question , > don't take bad ... make a good advice and i will take that too.. It's not necessary, but you can save some money and learn a little. Here is my experience. I bought most of my equipment on eBay. I had to rebuild the first stage regulator (Aqualung Conshelf XIV) because it leaked, but I saved $200 in the process, I learned how to maintain my own equipment, and I understand first stage regulators a little more. The BC (SeaQuest Pro QD) worked great. The 3 gauge console (Sherwood) had a bubble in the compass, a depth gauge that was off about 5 feet, and the SPG was only incremented every 1000 PSI. I replaced the compass with one from Wal-Mart for $4. I replaced the depth gauge with a Timex Helix Depth Meter watch from www.timex.com for $30. I bought a US Divers SPG that required a cleaning with another regulator on eBay. I resold the regulator on eBay for about what I paid minus shipping. I bought a used tank (Catalina) at a local dive shop for $90. Don't buy a tank made before 6/88 because most used a weak alloy and most dive shops won't fill them. There are a lot of these on eBay. All Catalina tanks are good, but it's hard to convince a tech who is afraid it will explode in his face. I bought a new mask, snorkel, & fins at Wal-Mart. I also bought most of my wife's equipment on eBay. Her gauges were much better (Parkway). I have logged about 13 dives with no incidents. Dive Safe! Mike Jarrells I bought a > used tank (Catalina) at a local dive shop for $90. Don't buy a tank > made before 6/88 because most used a weak alloy and most dive shops > won't fill them. This is simply not true. > I bought a >> used tank (Catalina) at a local dive shop for $90. Don't buy a tank >> made before 6/88 because most used a weak alloy and most dive shops >> won't fill them. > >This is simply not true. Agreed. I've got an 87 tank. The shop that usually does the fills also does the VIPs and runs an eddy current every time. I do need to take it in for a hydro. Signaturedillon Pain is Nature's way of saying "that was stupid" >> I bought a >>> used tank (Catalina) at a local dive shop for $90. Don't buy a tank [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > also does the VIPs and runs an eddy current every time. I do need to > take it in for a hydro. The statement is untrue for more reasons than have been expressed. Catalina tanks were never, ever made of the inferior alloy. Lee > The statement is untrue for more reasons than have been expressed. > Catalina tanks were never, ever made of the inferior alloy. You're correct. Just the inferior bouyancy characteristics. :-) Curtis >>> I bought a >>> [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Lee Agreed. Here is the list of possibly defective tanks: - All DOT-3AL tanks manufactured under one of the following exemptions or special permits: 6498, 7042, 8107, 8364, 8422 - All composite cylinders manufactured under one of the following exemptions: 7235, 8023, 8115 - All Walter Kidde DOT-3AL scuba tanks. - All Cliff Impact DOT-3AL scuba tanks made before July 1990. - All Luxfer 80.8 cu. ft. scuba tanks (S80.8) made before May 1987. - All Luxfer 72 and 100 cu. ft. scuba tanks (S72, S100) made before August 1987. - All Luxfer 80 cu. ft. scuba tanks (S80) made before January 1988. - All Luxfer 50 and 92 cu. ft. scuba tanks (S50, S92) made before April 1988. - All Luxfer 30 and 63 cu. ft scuba tanks (S30, S63) made before May 1988. - All Luxfer 40 cu. ft. scuba tanks (S40) made before June 1988. - All other scuba tanks made in the US before February 1990 (except Catalina). - All scuba tanks not made in the US. (Of course, the last one is wrong because most of them are made of steel - I know, my 15 litre weighs 24kg filled :-) SignatureThe law, in its majestic equality, forbids the rich as well as the poor to sleep under bridges, to beg in the streets, and to steal bread. - Anatole France. >> I bought a >>> used tank (Catalina) at a local dive shop for $90. Don't buy a tank [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > also does the VIPs and runs an eddy current every time. I do need to > take it in for a hydro. Lee already answered, but there were lots of tanks produced before '88 that didn't use th inferior alloy. There's a list available. LD. >I bought a > used tank (Catalina) at a local dive shop for $90. Don't buy a tank > made before 6/88 because most used a weak alloy and most dive shops > won't fill them. There are a lot of these on eBay. All Catalina tanks > are good, but it's hard to convince a tech who is afraid it will > explode in his face. Need to find yourself a real diveshop. >>I bought a >>used tank (Catalina) at a local dive shop for $90. Don't buy a tank [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Need to find yourself a real diveshop. Don't you have the machines there where you just hook up the tank yourself and throw coins in until its full? SignatureThe law, in its majestic equality, forbids the rich as well as the poor to sleep under bridges, to beg in the streets, and to steal bread. - Anatole France. >>>I bought a >>>used tank (Catalina) at a local dive shop for $90. Don't buy a tank [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > Don't you have the machines there where you just hook up the tank yourself > and throw coins in until its full? That constitutes a real diveshop... I heard tell, but never seen one. >>>I bought a >>>used tank (Catalina) at a local dive shop for $90. Don't buy a tank [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >Don't you have the machines there where you just hook up the tank >yourself and throw coins in until its full? What's the value of filling the tank with coins? Signaturedillon Pain is Nature's way of saying "that was stupid" > What's the value of filling the tank with coins? Make it more negatively buoyant? >>>>I bought a >>>>used tank (Catalina) at a local dive shop for $90. Don't buy a tank [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > What's the value of filling the tank with coins? Better bouyancy characteristics? Signature"A democracy is nothing more than mob rule, where fifty-one percent of the people may take away the rights of the other forty-nine." - Thomas Jefferson Congratulations on your certification ! , my friend ! It took me twenty years of diving before it occurred to me to get my AOW. Once I got it, the only difference is the new picture on my C-card. Congratulations, by the way! > Yes, I'm certified and looking forward to go for the AOW... > > STF > It took me twenty years of diving before it occurred to me to get my AOW. > Once I got it, the only difference is the new picture on my C-card. Hell, it took me 20+ years of diving before it occurred to me to even get certified... <snip> You might want to check your date on your computer... Either that or you're posting from the future... If the latter, please forward the PowerBall numbers to my email address... |
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