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Scuba Forum / General / September 2005DUI Drysuits.
Anyone have a well known contact at DUI? They're just fixin to piss me off. -- An American friend of mine - living in Canada - says that in the US, greed is acceptable but envy is a sin. In Canada it is just the opposite. I would suggest that envy is our national sport. And no one inspires more envy in us than our southern neighbor. It is a shame, because any legitimate gripes we may have about America get lost in a sea of childish wolf-crying. > Anyone have a well known contact at DUI? > They're just fixin to piss me off. Join the club. Sorry to say it, but every person I know who bought the DIR "have to dive a DUI or you aint sh.t" line is pissed off, and moved on. Maybe just a trend or a phase. > > Anyone have a well known contact at DUI? > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Maybe just a trend or a phase. Who would you rec? > > > Anyone have a well known contact at DUI? > > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Who would you rec? Whites was finally able to build one for Dinky Dave. After we sent in his measurements, they called me back and asked if it was metric dimensions. I had great luck with my Whites (the one I dove with ya'all in Florida), as did eberyone I know who owns one. My next drysuit will either be from Whites or KME: http://www.whitescoldwater.com http://www.kmedrysuits.com/ > > Anyone have a well known contact at DUI? > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Maybe just a trend or a phase. I've been satisfied with my DUI suit, even if Adny G told me it didn't fit well. Dennis > Anyone have a well known contact at DUI? > > They're just fixin to piss me off. Yes, and I've given it to you once or twice. Is this one of the folks that are pissing you off? > -- > An American friend of mine - living in Canada - says that in the US, greed > is acceptable but envy is a sin. In Canada it is just the opposite. I would > suggest that envy is our national sport. And no one inspires more envy in us > than our southern neighbor. It is a shame, because any legitimate gripes we > may have about America get lost in a sea of childish wolf-crying. > ? Anyone have a well known contact at DUI? > ? [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Yes, and I've given it to you once or twice. Is this one of the folks > that are pissing you off? That would be correct. :-) > > ? Anyone have a well known contact at DUI? > > ? [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > That would be correct. :-) Then I'm really sorry. This was the best person I knew of at DUI to help you. Perhaps you should contact Dick Long? Alan > ? "Alan Street" <agstreet@nonono_san.rr.com> wrote in message > ? news:120820052021504286%agstreet@nonono_san.rr.com... [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > Then I'm really sorry. This was the best person I knew of at DUI to > help you. Perhaps you should contact Dick Long? No problem, he just doesn't acknowledge e-mails. Anyone there I -can- get ahold of, says "ask your DUI dealer/LDS". Rather broken record like. I might stalk Mr Long at the next Demo Day. Pops - whats wrong with your suit? E-mail me and I'll tell you who to call. I'll call her for you if you like. * > Anyone have a well known contact at DUI? > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > than our southern neighbor. It is a shame, because any legitimate gripes we > may have about America get lost in a sea of childish wolf-crying. > Pops - whats wrong with your suit? Hmmm... Let's see... What *could* be wrong with a *dry* suit? Uhhhh... It leaks? <snicker> Either that or Doug needs to start wearing Depends... > Pops - whats wrong with your suit? > > E-mail me and I'll tell you who to call. I'll call her for you if you > like. What's wrong with my suit is that I don't have one. I want to go there to get one made, and they keep refering me to the LDS. Because of my size, when the thing is ordered wrong and doesn't fit despite someones' best effort, I'll still be holding the bag... > * > > > Anyone have a well known contact at DUI? > > > > They're just fixin to piss me off. Ah. Okay. Haul yourslef out here in a few weeks: http://www.dui-online.com/dog_tacoma_2005_diver.html It's 15 minutes from my house. We have a nice guest room. We have lotsa tanks. I am sure someone from DUI will be there and will measure you personally, and ship your suit to the LDS of your choice. Would that work? Who have you been talking to at DUI? * > > Pops - whats wrong with your suit? > > [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > > > > > They're just fixin to piss me off. > Ah. > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > It's 15 minutes from my house. We have a nice guest room. We have lotsa > tanks. I wish. :-) > I am sure someone from DUI will be there and will measure you > personally, and ship your suit to the LDS of your choice. > > Would that work? Who have you been talking to at DUI? So far e-mails to Quincy and Craig, and I just sent one to Faith. I just keep getting the "Yea, your dealer can take care of that" line. I want a custom suit, and I want to see what they can do and what they can't. Some custom pockets and lettering in reflective material, and some bungie corsetts for the world's largest calves. I don't care what it costs, and I'm willing to go to the factory. I'd sure hate to spend this money with Sea Elite. :-) > * > [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > > > > > > > They're just fixin to piss me off. > I don't care what it costs, and I'm willing to go to the factory. Oh sure, Mr. Moneybags will pay anything for a drysuit but ask him to buy one little backplate and wing and it's nothing but complain, complain, complain... Truckin's been good to you, I see. The calves on my suit are huge. I wonder if you could wear it. Sideways. Or something. > > I don't care what it costs, and I'm willing to go to the factory. > > Oh sure, Mr. Moneybags will pay anything for a drysuit but ask him to > buy one little backplate and wing and it's nothing but complain, > complain, complain... Whaaaaaattt?!? At this point, I've had at least 8 different wings and 5 backplates. :-) I just bought my third Sea Elite wing last week, having sent my second one to O'Neil. I got three of each now, just had one backplate finished in Olive Drab, it looks sweet. :-) Dennis is coming from Huntsville tomorrow, I got his (Koplin) done in Matte Black and we're gonna set up his doubles. I got him some self locking nuts <cough>. > Truckin's been good to you, I see. > > The calves on my suit are huge. I want some eyelets on mine I can thread bungie through, and adjust, like a built in Gaitor. > I wonder if you could wear it. Sideways. Or something. I had a 6X on at the demo days, obviously made for someone taller than you, if that's possible. There was about 18" of leg accordianed at my ankle. At around 275, I fit a stock 2X quite well. > Whaaaaaattt?!? > > At this point, I've had at least 8 different wings and 5 backplates. :-) And not one of them with a big blue H on them. And I bet you're using those nylock's still. Rat bastard. I have some new stories to tell whenever the great winds of commerce blow you my way. Not to mention that the night dives here are really nice. > > Whaaaaaattt?!? > > > > At this point, I've had at least 8 different wings and 5 backplates. :-) > > And not one of them with a big blue H on them. That would be twice incorrect... :-) > And I bet you're using those nylock's still. > > Rat bastard. It's the superior device. > I have some new stories to tell whenever the great winds of commerce > blow you my way. Not to mention that the night dives here are really nice. Maybe soon. > That would be twice incorrect... :-) Ah, then that makes you a lying rat bastard. Google would back me up on that if I cared enough to look. >>And I bet you're using those nylock's still. >> >>Rat bastard. > > It's the superior device. That's what she said. Until the batteries ran out. > > That would be twice incorrect... :-) > > Ah, then that makes you a lying rat bastard. Google would back me up on > that if I cared enough to look. You might could be right, I just went and looked and couldn't find it. One went to Mickey, one went to JOF. I have owned and dove Diverite, Scubapro, Halcyon, Sea Elite and have a Oxycheck for tomorrow. So far the Sea Elite spanks 'em all. > >>And I bet you're using those nylock's still. > >> [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > That's what she said. Until the batteries ran out. Har har, 600+ dives and counting. >> > That would be twice incorrect... :-) >> [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > One went to Mickey, one went to JOF. I can vouch for him there. I can see it from where I'm sitting. JF "What embitters the world is not excess of criticism, but an absence of self-criticism." - G.K.Chesterton > It's the superior device. I've always been partial to double nutting to lock nuts on bolts... After nearly losing a wheel off of a new 7x14 utility trailer, I even started double nutting the lug nuts on it... > I had a 6X on at the demo days, obviously made for someone taller than > you, if that's possible. > > There was about 18" of leg accordianed at my ankle. Mine is custom and that's about what I have. DUI didn't have the standard soles in my size so I had to buy the f.cking rock boots. Should have ditched the deal right there. > > I had a 6X on at the demo days, obviously made for someone taller than > > you, if that's possible. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > standard soles in my size so I had to buy the f.cking rock boots. > Should have ditched the deal right there. And that's what I'm trying to avoid. >>Mine is custom and that's about what I have. DUI didn't have the >>standard soles in my size so I had to buy the f.cking rock boots. >>Should have ditched the deal right there. > > And that's what I'm trying to avoid. I learned to dive dry in a rented CF200. Since it was a stock XXL (which their site says is custom, so how can it be stock...), it was too small by their definition, but in fact it fit me like a glove. I had absolutely no trouble diving it, ever. I wish I had talked the shop into selling it to me, even though the CF200 weighs about 50 pounds and takes two, maybe three years to dry. Maybe you should get measurements, then call every LDS in the country to see if someone has a suit that's just a bit too small for you by those measurements. > At around 275, I fit a stock 2X quite well. What the f.ck????????????? Never mind calling the people at DUI. Call a gym and get on a plan to lose some weight you fat f.cking pig. People at DUI are tryin to run a business and you think they gotta cater to your fat a.s? Take off the feed bag and have a lookin in the mirror you pathetic f.cking slob. >> I don't care what it costs, and I'm willing to go to the factory. > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > >I wonder if you could wear it. Sideways. Or something. He'd have to look out thru the inflator valve. JF "What embitters the world is not excess of criticism, but an absence of self-criticism." - G.K.Chesterton >> Ah. >> [quoted text clipped - 40 lines] >> > Because of my size, when the thing is ordered wrong and doesn't fit >> > despite someones' best effort, I'll still be holding the bag... If memory serves I'm pretty sure I overhead Dick Long (at the Gilboa DUI Day) tell you to contact him directly because of the obvious fitting issue. Mebbe you need to mention that in your next contact. I can vouch for the leg problem. I wouldn't have believed it without seeing it. You made a reg DUI leg fit like a skin. JF "What embitters the world is not excess of criticism, but an absence of self-criticism." - G.K.Chesterton > If memory serves I'm pretty sure I overhead Dick Long (at the Gilboa > DUI Day) tell you to contact him directly because of the obvious > fitting issue. Mebbe you need to mention that in your next contact. In fact he did, but the only name I ever drop is my own. :-) > I can vouch for the leg problem. I wouldn't have believed it without > seeing it. You made a reg DUI leg fit like a skin. A 6XXXXXX leg. I am contacting Faith to remind her of what Dick told you at the Demo days a few years back - I know for a fact that Faith will measure you herself if you can meet up with her. She's at all the demo day things. I know she has done this for others and the results were favorable. Give Dick a break - Lee passed away abbout a month ago. If you go to San Diego , holler - we can pop down for a dive or two. I'm wanting to dive the Yukon in the worst way. I'm scared to ask what the lettering will say. * > > Ah. > > [quoted text clipped - 46 lines] > > > > > > > > > > They're just fixin to piss me off. > I am contacting Faith to remind her of what Dick told you at the Demo > days a few years back - > > I know for a fact that Faith will measure you herself if you can meet > up with her. She's at all the demo day things. I know she has done > this for others and the results were favorable. I think I remember meeting her. She grooved on my scuba tattoos and the scuba diver brand, and had a guy take pictures. > Give Dick a break - Lee passed away abbout a month ago. I'm truly sorry to hear that. > If you go to San Diego , holler - we can pop down for a dive or two. > I'm wanting to dive the Yukon in the worst way. Me, too. We can see if Cliff will fit in there. I'm in the process of negotiating at work for more west coast runs, Seattle in particular, and if they don't come across, I'll get a new gig. > I'm scared to ask what the lettering will say. DUI TLS350 on the front, and POPEYE across the shoulders. But I want it on reflective fire-man coat material. Plus I want a flight jacket type pencil pocket on the shoulder, a wetnote pocket on the right front thigh, the usual bellows pockets on the side, and the corsetts. Maybe a rescue shear pocket sewn on. It'll work good, look cool, and really isn't all that complicated. I have lots of cocktail napkin drawings... > * > [quoted text clipped - 48 lines] > > > > > > > > > > > > They're just fixin to piss me off. > > I am contacting Faith to remind her of what Dick told you at the Demo > > days a few years back - [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > She grooved on my scuba tattoos and the scuba diver brand, and had a guy > take pictures. She will remember you, I have no doubt. > > Give Dick a break - Lee passed away abbout a month ago. > > I'm truly sorry to hear that. She was truly a class act and will be missed. > > If you go to San Diego , holler - we can pop down for a dive or two. > > I'm wanting to dive the Yukon in the worst way. > > Me, too. should qualify - so long as we can find a boat that does not have a certain DM working on it - I would like to have a nice time and I don't deal with incompetent idiots on my boats. > We can see if Cliff will fit in there. Do I know Cliff? Is heh the guy who runs around behind Faith at the demo places and teaches repair seminars with her? > I'm in the process of negotiating at work for more west coast runs, > Seattle in particular, and if they don't come across, I'll get a new gig. We will be delighted to tour you around our new dive digs. We've made some great wolf-eel friends. > > I'm scared to ask what the lettering will say. > [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > I have lots of cocktail napkin drawings... Ahhhh i think this will be a nice suit. Whatever was I expecting - ;-0 * >> We can see if Cliff will fit in there. > > Do I know Cliff? Is heh the guy who runs around behind Faith at the > demo places and teaches repair seminars with her? No, he is not. > >> We can see if Cliff will fit in there. > > > > Do I know Cliff? Is heh the guy who runs around behind Faith at the > > demo places and teaches repair seminars with her? > > No, he is not. You sure about that? :) oh, the other Cliff then :-) * > >> We can see if Cliff will fit in there. > > > > Do I know Cliff? Is heh the guy who runs around behind Faith at the > > demo places and teaches repair seminars with her? > > No, he is not. > > > If you go to San Diego , holler - we can pop down for a dive or two. > > > I'm wanting to dive the Yukon in the worst way. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > certain DM working on it - I would like to have a nice time and I don't > deal with incompetent idiots on my boats. If there's enough of us, we could just charter the Lois Ann for half a day and not have to worry about any DMs. > ? should qualify - so long as we can find a boat that does not have a > ? certain DM working on it - I would like to have a nice time and I don't > ? deal with incompetent idiots on my boats. > ? > If there's enough of us, we could just charter the Lois Ann for half a > day and not have to worry about any DMs. Maybe MHK could DM. > > ? should qualify - so long as we can find a boat that does not have a > > ? certain DM working on it - I would like to have a nice time and I don't [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Maybe MHK could DM. Well, you are overdue for a DIR Fundamentals Class, aren't you ;-) > > > > If you go to San Diego , holler - we can pop down for a dive or two. > > > > I'm wanting to dive the Yukon in the worst way. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > If there's enough of us, we could just charter the Lois Ann for half a > day and not have to worry about any DMs. The Lois Ann has been recommended by a few different people. Who crews? I'm in if its at a time when i have a long weekend at school. * > > > > > If you go to San Diego , holler - we can pop down for a dive or two. > > > > > I'm wanting to dive the Yukon in the worst way. [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > The Lois Ann has been recommended by a few different people. Who > crews? Woody Morrison runs the boat and is the primary Captian. MJ Witt is the main DM. He has one alternate Captian, and an assortment of DMs, none of whom I know well. > I'm in if its at a time when i have a long weekend at school. > > * > Do I know Cliff? We've never met, but after JOF squeezed his ear in Dutch Springs following me, he ran like a girl over to Ohio to dive with you. (Sorry John, just wasn't funny any other way.) If that's not enough to discredit me, then read the seahorse dive report. >> Do I know Cliff? > >We've never met, but after JOF squeezed his ear in Dutch Springs >following me, he ran like a girl over to Ohio to dive with you. > >(Sorry John, just wasn't funny any other way.) It's the truth. The only time I've ever done it and it had to be there. But I was actually thinking about that day while reading the thread about thumbing dives. I felt bad about screwing up the dive for you and Carl but when I said I was going in and for you to carry on, you guys wouldn't abandon me. I was perfectly happy to paddle back in but you weren't having any part of it. You start the dive as buddies and you finsh together. That was the day that read like a roll call at rec.scuba camp. As we paddled in from my ear implosion chatting in the rain a voice called out "Cliff" and you introduced to Trace in the middle of the quarry. Then we got to shore and we were accosted by a big grumpy looking guy called George Horn. Shortly thereafter some guy in a Trooper tried to run us down. That would be Udo. Then we went to dinner and I met Salty for the first time and learned that George wasn't grumpy. He was just overdue for about 10 pounds of shrimp with a side order of clams.. That was my first experience with rec.scubans. I survived. Star is much kinder to me. No power dives when I'm least expecting it and I'd sooner swim behind her butt than yers any day. JF "What embitters the world is not excess of criticism, but an absence of self-criticism." - G.K.Chesterton Okay, I vaguely remember this story now...... *, blushing > >> Do I know Cliff? > > [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > "What embitters the world is not excess of criticism, > but an absence of self-criticism." - G.K.Chesterton >> Pops - whats wrong with your suit? >> [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > Because of my size, when the thing is ordered wrong and doesn't fit >despite someones' best effort, I'll still be holding the bag... If it is made incorrectly to correct measurements, DUI rebuilds the suit for free. If it is measured incorrectly, it's the fault of the LDS.... but before you go to the LDS, print out the sizing form from DUI's site and have someone measure you. Remember the key numbers. If the LDS is off, or is off in a direction that you are not comfortable with, question them and request a new measurement. Only with a cave cut, are you required to sign a release that you are "holding the bag" if they f.ck it up. --- Rich http://richlockyer.tripod.com/ >>> Pops - whats wrong with your suit? >>> [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > Only with a cave cut, are you required to sign a release that you are > "holding the bag" if they f.ck it up. Such is my point. I swear that DUI is trying to involve the LDS so they'll have a scapegoat. We won't have to worry about who measured what how if I do it there. This ain't gonna be cheap. > Such is my point. I swear that DUI is trying to involve the LDS so they'll >have a scapegoat. > > We won't have to worry about who measured what how if I do it there. > > This ain't gonna be cheap. $2k for a drysuit ain't cheap. What's another couple of hundred for airfare for a short vacation in SoCal :) Make lemonade. --- Rich http://richlockyer.tripod.com/ >> Such is my point. I swear that DUI is trying to involve the LDS so >> they'll [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Make lemonade. Rick, I drive truck now. I'm up there once a month, or once every other. No problem for me to stop by. I've swapped e-mails and been dodged on phone calls, these people are fighting tooth and claw to send me elsewhere. My only specific request so far has been to meet with a designer. They seem to think this idea abhorrent. Other Rec.scubans have told me aside that they just don't want to accept any responsibility for their product, and frankly, it's beginning to become apparent. > --- Rich > http://richlockyer.tripod.com/ > Rick, I drive truck now. > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > any responsibility for their product, and frankly, it's beginning to become > apparent. We can hook you up with a Whites while you are here. |
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