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Lubricating low pressure hose

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BarryNL - 08 Aug 2005 15:16 GMT
My low pressure hose to my dry suit is getting quite difficult to
remove, which is a bit worrying in case I need to disconnect in a hurry.
What is the best sort of lubricant to use (obviously anything above
water would simply get sprayed with WD40 but I'm not sure this is a good
idea for an LP connector).
Nigel Hewitt - 08 Aug 2005 15:34 GMT
> My low pressure hose to my dry suit is getting quite difficult to
> remove, which is a bit worrying in case I need to disconnect in a hurry.
> What is the best sort of lubricant to use (obviously anything above
> water would simply get sprayed with WD40 but I'm not sure this is a good
> idea for an LP connector).

Mine normally cakes up with chalk from being hosed off and left
to drip dry so a quick flash in Viakal or Lemon juice before
some silicon grease helps. Nobody much likes puting hydrocarbon
based lubricants around high pressure gases.

nigelH
Lee Bell - 08 Aug 2005 16:22 GMT
> Mine normally cakes up with chalk from being hosed off and left
> to drip dry so a quick flash in Viakal or Lemon juice before
> some silicon grease helps. Nobody much likes puting hydrocarbon
> based lubricants around high pressure gases.

If you want to be politically correct, ChristoLube is probably a better
choice than silicon.

Lee
Jason - 08 Aug 2005 20:00 GMT
> helps. Nobody much likes puting hydrocarbon based lubricants around high
> pressure gases.

Yes, who would dream of spraying their AP Valves DSMB bottle valve with
WD40? Just wouldn't happen.

Jason

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Cpt. Dale Bennett - 08 Aug 2005 16:42 GMT


> My low pressure hose to my dry suit is getting quite difficult to remove,
> which is a bit worrying in case I need to disconnect in a hurry. What is
> the best sort of lubricant to use (obviously anything above water would
> simply get sprayed with WD40 but I'm not sure this is a good idea for an
> LP connector).

Never use any petroleum product *especially WD40* on diving gear.  It will
turn rubber into a sticky goo.  Usu silicone  or, better yet, Cryslo Lube.

Safe diving,
Cpt. Dale
Scott - 08 Aug 2005 17:06 GMT
> My low pressure hose to my dry suit is getting quite difficult to
> remove, which is a bit worrying in case I need to disconnect in a hurry.
> What is the best sort of lubricant to use (obviously anything above
> water would simply get sprayed with WD40 but I'm not sure this is a good
> idea for an LP connector).

You can take it apart by carefully removing the thin retaining ring, but do
it over a towel so as not to lose any of the balls.

Dip it into some CLR (do not get it deep enough to dip the hose) for a few
minutes, then rinse real well and lube it with Christolube or Krytox:

The lube will help keep the balls in place for re-assembly.

http://www.jelmar.com/CLRbasic.asp

http://www.dupont.com/lubricants/en/index.html

http://www.miller-stephenson.com/home_008.htm
Greg Mossman - 08 Aug 2005 17:29 GMT
> My low pressure hose to my dry suit is getting quite difficult to remove,
> which is a bit worrying in case I need to disconnect in a hurry. What is
> the best sort of lubricant to use (obviously anything above water would
> simply get sprayed with WD40 but I'm not sure this is a good idea for an
> LP connector).

An ultrasonic cleaning might not be a bad idea.
Clive Dive - 08 Aug 2005 21:05 GMT
Ultrasonic it and the LPI if poss in citric acid solution. Put a BIT of
silicone grease [tube not aerosol type] connect to first stage, quick
inflate and all the inside of valve has a nice thin coating of lube.  I
have done this once every couple of months for 9 years with no prblems.
Dillon Pyron - 09 Aug 2005 15:50 GMT
>Ultrasonic it and the LPI if poss in citric acid solution. Put a BIT of
>silicone grease [tube not aerosol type] connect to first stage, quick
>inflate and all the inside of valve has a nice thin coating of lube.  I
>have done this once every couple of months for 9 years with no prblems.

I should have done that last week.  Instead I took it into the shop
(reg still attached to BC).  He asked how old the hose was.  I told
him 20 years.  Three minutes later he was charging me for a new hose.

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BarryNL - 09 Aug 2005 08:11 GMT
> My low pressure hose to my dry suit is getting quite difficult to
> remove, which is a bit worrying in case I need to disconnect in a hurry.
> What is the best sort of lubricant to use (obviously anything above
> water would simply get sprayed with WD40 but I'm not sure this is a good
> idea for an LP connector).

Well, thanks for all the replies. I actually tried using a little bit of
silicone grease on a cue-tip and now it connects and disconnects
beautifully.
Limey - 12 Aug 2005 14:32 GMT
>> My low pressure hose to my dry suit is getting quite difficult to remove,
>> which is a bit worrying in case I need to disconnect in a hurry. What is
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> silicone grease on a cue-tip and now it connects and disconnects
> beautifully.

You didn't get any chalk in the grease from the cue tip?

LD.
Gareth A. - 09 Aug 2005 13:06 GMT
>My low pressure hose to my dry suit is getting quite difficult to
>remove, which is a bit worrying in case I need to disconnect in a hurry.
>What is the best sort of lubricant to use (obviously anything above
>water would simply get sprayed with WD40 but I'm not sure this is a good
>idea for an LP connector).

Also it can be risky when putting on.  My dad's colleague was putting
on a hose from a cylinder onto an inflatable tent and it didn't
connect properly (either he didn't pull it to test or it was too stiff
to pull off). Air was turned on and it flew off to smack him squarely
in the forehead, creating a small cut and a quick trip to hospital for
a check up.

Gareth
Greg Mossman - 09 Aug 2005 17:57 GMT
> Also it can be risky when putting on.  My dad's colleague was putting
> on a hose from a cylinder onto an inflatable tent and it didn't
> connect properly (either he didn't pull it to test or it was too stiff
> to pull off). Air was turned on and it flew off to smack him squarely
> in the forehead, creating a small cut and a quick trip to hospital for
> a check up.

Only in the U.K.  No one in America would dream of going to a hospital for a
small cut on the forehead.  It's no wonder you guys lost the Revolution.

Do you call 911 if you get a paper cut?
Reef Fish - 09 Aug 2005 18:31 GMT
> > Also it can be risky when putting on.  My dad's colleague was putting
> > on a hose from a cylinder onto an inflatable tent and it didn't
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>
> Do you call 911 if you get a paper cut?

Only if the paper is very thick.

Otherwise, they'll only shout, "bloody 'ell, this nahstie piece
of papah has caused severe damage to me pommy hand."  :-)
ejb - 09 Aug 2005 19:44 GMT
"Greg Mossman"  wrote >

> Only in the U.K.  No one in America would dream of going to a hospital for a
> small cut on the forehead.  It's no wonder you guys lost the Revolution.
>
> Do you call 911 if you get a paper cut?

In the "Land of the Fee" they'd see their Lawyer instead.
BarryNL - 10 Aug 2005 09:07 GMT
> "Greg Mossman"  wrote >
>
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>
> In the "Land of the Fee" they'd see their Lawyer instead.

Or possibly begin an investigation to link the air hose to a terrorist
conspiracy :-)
Dillon Pyron - 10 Aug 2005 22:24 GMT
>> "Greg Mossman"  wrote >
>>
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>Or possibly begin an investigation to link the air hose to a terrorist
>conspiracy :-)

Well obiously, it is.

Or perhaps you're a terrorist trying to sew discontent amongst the
members of these two find, harmonius groups.

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BarryNL - 10 Aug 2005 09:06 GMT
>>Also it can be risky when putting on.  My dad's colleague was putting
>>on a hose from a cylinder onto an inflatable tent and it didn't
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> Only in the U.K.  No one in America would dream of going to a hospital for a
> small cut on the forehead.  It's no wonder you guys lost the Revolution.

Nah, in America you'd be rushing to the lawyer instead :-)
sharky - 10 Aug 2005 10:24 GMT
>>Also it can be risky when putting on.  My dad's colleague was putting
>>on a hose from a cylinder onto an inflatable tent and it didn't
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> Only in the U.K.  No one in America would dream of going to a hospital for a
> small cut on the forehead.  It's no wonder you guys lost the Revolution.

Thats because we have a free health service.
I wouldn't go if I had to pay like you guys.

> Do you call 911 if you get a paper cut?

No, 999
Greg Mossman - 10 Aug 2005 16:40 GMT
>> Do you call 911 if you get a paper cut?
> No, 999

Which reads 666 if I turn my monitor upside down.  Don't you Brits ever take
facts like that into consideration?  Do you think all accident victims will
be right-side up?
Jason - 10 Aug 2005 17:05 GMT

> Which reads 666 if I turn my monitor upside down.  Don't you Brits ever
> take facts like that into consideration?  Do you think all accident
> victims will be right-side up?

That's why it's 000 in Australia.

Jason

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Greg Mossman - 10 Aug 2005 17:47 GMT
>> Which reads 666 if I turn my monitor upside down.  Don't you Brits ever
>> take facts like that into consideration?  Do you think all accident
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>
> Jason

Good point.  They're all upside-down there.

But here in the U.S., dialing 0 would get you an operator.  That was back
when there were operators.  Today it would likely get you lost in some
eternal voicemail damnation of touchtone prompts.  Dialing 000 would triple
the hell.  I'd rather dial 666.

After our terrorist attacks of 9/11, I believe they should change the
emergency number here to something like 000 or 666, and reserve 911 for the
sole purpose of reporting terrorist attacks or potential terrorist attacks
or just to report your neighbor if he happens to look Brazilian.
Dillon Pyron - 10 Aug 2005 22:26 GMT
>> Which reads 666 if I turn my monitor upside down.  Don't you Brits ever
>> take facts like that into consideration?  Do you think all accident
>> victims will be right-side up?
>
>That's why it's 000 in Australia.

That's what Carol says

Oh, oh, oooh.

>Jason

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Limey - 12 Aug 2005 14:34 GMT
>>> Do you call 911 if you get a paper cut?
>> No, 999
>
> Which reads 666 if I turn my monitor upside down.  Don't you Brits ever
> take facts like that into consideration?  Do you think all accident
> victims will be right-side up?

Nah, 666 is not a valid number.....here in the US tho, we consider
everything right Greg? so 116 calls are forwarded to 911.

LD.
sharky - 12 Aug 2005 16:03 GMT
>>>>Do you call 911 if you get a paper cut?
>>>
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>
> LD.

Does 191 work for dyslexics?
Rick Simms - 12 Aug 2005 21:42 GMT
>>>>>Do you call 911 if you get a paper cut?
>>>>
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>>
>Does 191 work for dyslexics?

That would be 11b.

Rick Simms
Limey - 12 Aug 2005 14:32 GMT
>> Also it can be risky when putting on.  My dad's colleague was putting
>> on a hose from a cylinder onto an inflatable tent and it didn't
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>
> Do you call 911 if you get a paper cut?

No, they use 999 over thar.

LD.
 
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