> can u scuba in trunks or is a wet/drysuit always required?
>
> what happens if u dive with no certification? i know the bends is a
> risk but if u know to rise in stages and slowly, is that enough?
>
> ~Freeza Frost
Why even wear trunks? You can be called Freeza Off ... after they recover
your body that is.
> can u scuba in trunks or is a wet/drysuit always required?
Actually, the very best way to scuba is in just a dive skin. You should
try it someday.
> what happens if u dive with no certification?
You'll die immediately. Scuba'ing without a certification is the most
dangerousest thing you can do. A PADI brand certification is by far the
bestest and safest certification you can get to protect yourself
against dying or getting the bends.
i know the bends is a
> risk but if u know to rise in stages and slowly, is that enough?
Not nearly enough. You need much more schooling than this. I recommend
you contact your local PADI professional right away for more
information.
I should also tell you that this room is well known as a bad place to
get good scuba advice and information. If you're looking for good,
knowledgable, unbiased scuba information, you should look at
<www.scubaboard.com>. The people there are very nice and no one thee
will ever give you bad advice. Netdoc is especially nice, and he really
likes getting new participants from rec.scuba who've had to endure
abuse from know-nothing rec.scuba jerks like Popeye, Lee Bell, Scott
Koplin, Alan Street, Greg Mossman, chilly, Mike Shelly, ESG, Curtis,
Michael Wolf, Barb, Matthias, Steve, and all those other ignorant
idiots (apologies to anyone left out ;-). I know you'll be much happier
in that room than you would be in this dumb "Usenet" thing (what kind
of name is "Usenet" for a discussion rooom, anyway. How majorily
stupid!).
Happy SCUBA'ing,
a
Chris Guynn - 27 Jul 2005 14:31 GMT
> ? can u scuba in trunks or is a wet/drysuit always required?
> ?
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>
> a
I didn't make the list... I must not be a know-nothing rec.scuba jerk. :-)
JOF - 27 Jul 2005 14:45 GMT
>> I should also tell you that this room is well known as a bad place to
>> get good scuba advice and information. If you're looking for good,
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
>> a
>I didn't make the list... I must not be a know-nothing rec.scuba jerk. :-)
Reminds me of my experience with Doc. I was still in my conciliatory
rec.scuba phase then and when Popeye got axed and then badmouthed I
took his part. I got sandwiched for it between Popeye, pissed because
I didn't speak out firmly enough on his behalf, and Doc, who corrected
my grammar, or at least amended some of my language to a kinder
gentler version less likely to incite the mob to violence or somesuch
excuse. I packed it in at that point figuring I couldn't win. 8)
JF
"What embitters the world is not excess of criticism,
but an absence of self-criticism." - G.K.Chesterton
cavey_curtis@$$ yahoo.com - 27 Jul 2005 15:25 GMT
> Actually, the very best way to scuba is
9.85
Curtis
Alan Street - 27 Jul 2005 18:46 GMT
> > Actually, the very best way to scuba is
>
> 9.85
>
> Curtis
:-)
(gotta work on that last 1.5%)
Lee Bell - 28 Jul 2005 02:16 GMT
>> Actually, the very best way to scuba is
>
> 9.85
>
> Curtis
9.75 I liked it too.
Lee
Greg Mossman - 27 Jul 2005 16:48 GMT
> ? can u scuba in trunks or is a wet/drysuit always required?
>
> Actually, the very best way to scuba is in just a dive skin. You should
> try it someday.
I don't think there is any "very best". I've dove in nothing but trunks
before (Bay of Pigs, 2002) and, except for the thimble jellies bugging me on
the night dive, preferred that to even a dive skin. I've also dove nekkid,
but only in my pool. That's truly the very best, but don't expect many
fishies.
On the other hand, diving dry can be the very best because you don't even
get wet. Nothing like ending an hour dive in 50-degree water and you're
still wearing the same underwear that you slept in the night before. I
suppose diving with a FFM so your hair doesn't even get wet would be even
better, but I've never done that.
> You'll die immediately. Scuba'ing without a certification is the most
> dangerousest thing you can do. A PADI brand certification is by far the
> bestest and safest certification you can get to protect yourself
> against dying or getting the bends.
And now we're stuck with Grumman.
> Not nearly enough. You need much more schooling than this. I recommend
> you contact your local PADI professional right away for more
> information.
I heard that Cracker Jack is giving away PADI Master Diver certifications in
select boxes of their product, so if Jeremy likes to eat Cracker Jacks he
could be in luck.
> in that room than you would be in this dumb "Usenet" thing (what kind
> of name is "Usenet" for a discussion rooom, anyway. How majorily
> stupid!).
I believe that it's derived from the simple fact that when someone uses
something, that something becomes a tool. Usenet is filled with tools.
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From: JeremyQuest@webtv.net (Freeza Frost)
Newsgroups: rec.scuba
Subject: trunks
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 00:16:36 -0500
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Different writing style (i.e. more illiterate), but still a WebTV
weenie... This ID has a longer history (of BS posts) though, so one
might wonder if this is the same person as Connie... Interesting that
all the strange ones come from the Bay Area WebTV news server... Must
be something in the water over there...
One has to wonder though... Has *anyone* from the WebTV domain EVER
said anything that would justify not killfiling the entire domain?
Theorhetically, I guess it's *possible*, but I don't believe that I've
ever seen an example of such behaviour...
>can u scuba in trunks or is a wet/drysuit always required?
>
>what happens if u dive with no certification? i know the bends is a
>risk but if u know to rise in stages and slowly, is that enough?
If you complete a certification course, you will learn that there are
many dangers in SCUBA diving. You will also learn how to deal with
them so that you can dive without risking injury or death.
You will even learn when and why a wetwuit, drysuite, skinsuit and/or
other envronmental protetion is necessary or desirable.
No, knowing "to rise in stages and slowly" is not enough.
Not by a LOOOOOOOOOOOOONG shot!

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Michael Wolf - 27 Jul 2005 14:57 GMT
>>can u scuba in trunks or is a wet/drysuit always required?
>>
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> No, knowing "to rise in stages and slowly" is not enough.
> Not by a LOOOOOOOOOOOOONG shot!
It doesn't prepare you for rec.scuba though.

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Charlie Hammond - 27 Jul 2005 19:24 GMT
>> If you complete a certification course, ...
>It doesn't prepare you for rec.scuba though.
Nothing does.

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Dennis (Icarus) - 28 Jul 2005 18:56 GMT
> >>can u scuba in trunks or is a wet/drysuit always required?
> >>
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>
> It doesn't prepare you for rec.scuba though.
PADI will have a specialty course for rec.scuba in 2006.
Dennis
Dillon Pyron - 29 Jul 2005 00:51 GMT
Thus spake "Dennis \(Icarus\)" <nojunkmail@ever.invalid> :
>> >>can u scuba in trunks or is a wet/drysuit always required?
>> >>
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
>
>PADI will have a specialty course for rec.scuba in 2006.
But it won't have it's own patch, it will just be a "Distinctive
Specialty".
Maybe I should work up a course outline for one.
>Dennis

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chilly - 29 Jul 2005 00:55 GMT
> > It doesn't prepare you for rec.scuba though.
>
> PADI will have a specialty course for rec.scuba in 2006.
Who have they got writing the course materials?
JOF - 29 Jul 2005 02:28 GMT
>> > It doesn't prepare you for rec.scuba though.
>>
>> PADI will have a specialty course for rec.scuba in 2006.
>
>Who have they got writing the course materials?
Uh, do we have to demonstrate any dive skills to qualify?
JF
"What embitters the world is not excess of criticism,
but an absence of self-criticism." - G.K.Chesterton
Dillon Pyron - 29 Jul 2005 06:33 GMT
>>> > It doesn't prepare you for rec.scuba though.
>>>
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>>
>Uh, do we have to demonstrate any dive skills to qualify?
Yes.
How many beers are required to simulate narcosis at 132 feet?
How much more bouyancy does a D cup provide over a B cup?
Will I die or suffer brain damage first if I breath pure helium?
>JF
>
>"What embitters the world is not excess of criticism,
> but an absence of self-criticism." - G.K.Chesterton

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Scott - 29 Jul 2005 11:55 GMT
> Yes.
>
> How many beers are required to simulate narcosis at 132 feet?
4 shots of Patron
> How much more bouyancy does a D cup provide over a B cup?
Caspian or European?
(4.32 avoirdupois)
> Will I die or suffer brain damage first if I breath pure helium?
Yes.
Limey - 04 Aug 2005 20:39 GMT
>>>> > It doesn't prepare you for rec.scuba though.
>>>>
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>
> How many beers are required to simulate narcosis at 132 feet?
12-18, depending on body weight and practise.
> How much more bouyancy does a D cup provide over a B cup?
Now I'm using a wing after years in a stab, I'm gonna be finding out how
useful my new man-boobs are going to be in keeping me face up. I haven't
figgered a cup size yet but I'll get back to ya.
> Will I die or suffer brain damage first if I breath pure helium?
Years of sucking balloons to make a funny voice may be responsible for my
brain damage??? Cool, I always put it down to the alcohol. BARTENDER!
LD.
chilly - 29 Jul 2005 06:41 GMT
> >Who have they got writing the course materials?
> >
> Uh, do we have to demonstrate any dive skills to qualify?
I shouldn't think so. Rec.scuba survival skills should be the first
determining requirement.
JOF - 29 Jul 2005 02:32 GMT
On Thu, 28 Jul 2005 12:56:35 -0500, "Dennis \(Icarus\)"
<nojunkmail@ever.invalid> wrote:
>> >>can u scuba in trunks or is a wet/drysuit always required?
>> >>
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
>
>PADI will have a specialty course for rec.scuba in 2006.
Do we get any credit hours for our CID?
JF
"What embitters the world is not excess of criticism,
but an absence of self-criticism." - G.K.Chesterton
chilly - 29 Jul 2005 06:41 GMT
> On Thu, 28 Jul 2005 12:56:35 -0500, "Dennis \(Icarus\)"
> >> It doesn't prepare you for rec.scuba though.
> >
> >PADI will have a specialty course for rec.scuba in 2006.
>
> Do we get any credit hours for our CID?
Hmm, I've still been trying to figure out how to be awarded a CID.
Scott - 29 Jul 2005 11:55 GMT
> > On Thu, 28 Jul 2005 12:56:35 -0500, "Dennis \(Icarus\)"
> > >> It doesn't prepare you for rec.scuba though.
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> Hmm, I've still been trying to figure out how to be awarded a CID.
You have to get a sex change and be decrepit.
Limey - 04 Aug 2005 20:39 GMT
>> > On Thu, 28 Jul 2005 12:56:35 -0500, "Dennis \(Icarus\)"
>> > >> It doesn't prepare you for rec.scuba though.
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
> You have to get a sex change and be decrepit.
Hey, I'm not decrepit!
LD.
> can u scuba in trunks or is a wet/drysuit always required?
If you can swim in them, you can dive in them. Naked is OK if you don't
mind risking body parts that may look like bait.
> what happens if u dive with no certification? i know the bends is a
> risk but if u know to rise in stages and slowly, is that enough?
Maybe nothing, maybe you die. One of the points of taking a certification
course is that you learn what can happen and how to avoid it on purpose.
No, knowing to rise in stages and slowly is not enough. Depending on what
you mean by "in stages" it may not even be correct.
Lee
chilly - 28 Jul 2005 06:33 GMT
> > can u scuba in trunks or is a wet/drysuit always required?
>
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> No, knowing to rise in stages and slowly is not enough. Depending on what
> you mean by "in stages" it may not even be correct.
One might ask what Freeza thinks the "bends" are, in the first place.
Whistler - 28 Jul 2005 06:34 GMT
> One might ask what Freeza thinks the "bends" are, in the first place.
Morning exercises. Good for the knees.
Limey - 04 Aug 2005 16:04 GMT
>> can u scuba in trunks or is a wet/drysuit always required?
>
> If you can swim in them, you can dive in them. Naked is OK if you don't
> mind risking body parts that may look like bait.
More importantly, take care in who else is on the boat when diving naked or
in 'trunks'. We only let Lee get away with it because of other redeeming
factors.
LD.