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Scuba Forum / General / July 2005Look out Cancun- This ones a killer
http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/refresh/graphics_at5+shtml/205315.shtml?3day http://www.goes.noaa.gov/HURRLOOPS/huvsloop.html This one is the real deal. Get out now if you can. Its only stuff. God protect you all. > http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/refresh/graphics_at5+shtml/205315.shtml?3day > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > God protect you all. it doesn't look very good for Cozumel or the Caymans either > > http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/refresh/graphics_at5+shtml/205315.shtml?3day > > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > > it doesn't look very good for Cozumel or the Caymans either For once I agree with Charlie. Mark the calendar. > > http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/refresh/graphics_at5+shtml/205315.shtml?3day > > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > > it doesn't look very good for Cozumel or the Caymans either Exactly. Got some friend in Cancun right now. As you can see, Coz is right in the zone. God help and protect them. Might make a hell of a drift dive in Coz... This one seems to be pretty much a direct shot towards Coz from where it was a few days ago when I first posted about it... Usually they curve to the north... This one is like a dart with the Yucatan being the dartboard and Coz being the bullseye... <zing> > Might make a hell of a drift dive in Coz... This one seems to be pretty much > a direct shot towards Coz from where it was a few days ago when I first > posted about it... Usually they curve to the north... This one is like a > dart with the Yucatan being the dartboard and Coz being the bullseye... > <zing> A bad French joke from Reuters this morning as Emily slammed into Coz with 135 mph winds: ""Some refused shelter. "This is our first hurricane and we want to see it," said Jonathan Morisset from Quebec, Canada, who said he planned to stay outside with his girlfriend."" http://tinyurl.com/993gn Wonder how they fared... > > Might make a hell of a drift dive in Coz... This one seems to be pretty much > > a direct shot towards Coz from where it was a few days ago when I first [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > it," said Jonathan Morisset from Quebec, Canada, who said he planned to > stay outside with his girlfriend."" I saw that on the news last night... All I could think was "Oh my God." > > A bad French joke from Reuters this morning as Emily slammed into Coz > > with 135 mph winds: [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > All I could think was "Oh my God." I am sure you must know who Ron White is. "Its not _that_ the wind blows, its _what_ the wind blows. If you get hit by a Volvo..." > > > A bad French joke from Reuters this morning as Emily slammed into Coz > > > with 135 mph winds: [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > "Its not _that_ the wind blows, its _what_ the wind blows. If you get hit by > a Volvo..." Freakin' hillarious... They call me... "Tater-Salad. > > I am sure you must know who Ron White is. > > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > They call me... "Tater-Salad. "Yeah, but I got a place to f.ck your sister." > > > I am sure you must know who Ron White is. > > > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > "Yeah, but I got a place to f.ck your sister." "I don't know why they don't like me..." > ""Some refused shelter. "This is our first hurricane and we want to see > it," said Jonathan Morisset from Quebec, Canada, who said he planned to > stay outside with his girlfriend."" Was that first, last, or first & last? Reminds me of the mentality of some of our divers. ;-) Curtis "Magilla" wrote: > > ""Some refused shelter. "This is our first hurricane and we want to see > > it," said Jonathan Morisset from Quebec, Canada, who said he planned to > > stay outside with his girlfriend."" > > Was that first, last, or first & last? "And the first may be last - I have heard it in church - and the last may be first." Rizpah - Poems Of Alfred Lord Tennyson > Reminds me of the mentality of some of our divers. ;-) ain't that the truth? Must be deep air certified. George > "Magilla" wrote: > > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > ain't that the truth? Must be deep air certified. Despite the fact that you are a Canuck, I kinda like your style. I also have to say, and it may well be that I dont fully understand the charter, but CAIR is an enigma to me; Something to be viewed with absolute suspicion. If you can convince me, I will back you all to the gas chamber. I also know and dearly love a few folks who are of the Islamic religion, but they bear less than no resemblance to the Taliban, Saddam, Syria, Lebanon or the PLA, hence I dont associate them. They are not of the same fabric. I am all ears, but also have heart, soul and an irrevocable loyalty to the principles for which the US stands. I simply dont understand why Muslins are killing Muslims, if they are of the same, allegedly sane, religion, world and ideology. Maybe better stated is that I dont understand why the Muslims fight, kill and try to subjugate one another based upon their interpretation of the word of Muhammed and Allah. And then allow that hatred to spill out into the world of inocents. The poverty and injustice is not our fault. I think it is a result of totalitarianism in Islam. Set me straight. > > "Magilla" wrote: > > > [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > Despite the fact that you are a Canuck, I kinda like your style. Quirky at best. But I earned it! :) > I also have to say, and it may well be that I dont fully understand the > charter, but CAIR is an enigma to me; > > Something to be viewed with absolute suspicion. > > If you can convince me, I will back you all to the gas chamber. I don't know enough myself to have any certainty. > I also know and dearly love a few folks who are of the Islamic religion, but > they bear less than no resemblance to the Taliban, Saddam, Syria, Lebanon or > the PLA, hence I dont associate them. They are not of the same fabric. Ah, here we agree completely. There are good guys, who are just fine, and bad guys who need shooting. Just like any large group. That was my experience in the Middle East. I had the pleasure of working with some super people, and others I would go out of my way to spit on. Surprising who was who sometimes, not always what you would expect. I had a couple of Pakistanis working for me in Saudi when I worked for Haliburton, absolutely wonderful guys! They were Pashtuns from up in the Khyber Pass on the Afghanistan border and were in Saudi for two years on single status with no field breaks. Trying to make enough money to go home and start a village business to help their families get ahead a little. Those guys understood friendship and trust, and they certainly understood getting even. I have seldom felt safer than when they were around. Tribal warfare was completely normal to them. One was a devout Muslim, the other was just "kinda". They were fascinating to work with, and man I learned a lot about how the world outside North America *really* works! :) > I am all ears, but also have heart, soul and an irrevocable loyalty to the > principles for which the US stands. Agreed. > I simply dont understand why Muslins are killing Muslims, if they are of the > same, allegedly sane, religion, world and ideology. I think I understand this a little. Over generalizing, we are dealing with a tribal, feudal culture that only recently (100 years or so) really started participating in the "western" world. True of a big part of the Arab world, and incredibly true in Afghanistan. Very splintered even to their religions, kind of like us. All kinds of sects all calling themselves Muslim, and many claiming to be the only true Muslims. Loyalty only to family, tribe and leader and then hate everyone else. > Maybe better stated is that I dont understand why the Muslims fight, kill > and try to subjugate one another based upon their interpretation of the word > of Muhammed and Allah. Two tribes fighting over water access a thousand years ago. With incredibly long memories that make the Hatfields and McCoys look like pikers. Translate that to the present day, throw in the artificially created country called Iraq with all these tribes of *different* varieties of religion and ethnic backgrounds, and is it any wonder "insurgents" are trying to start a sectarian civil war? Its just what they do and have done for recorded time. I also think religious sects may have adapted to suit the violent politics, rather than the other way around. You can find all kinds of things in the Bible to justify horrific policies, same in the Koran. Its all in the interpretation. If a tribal leader wanted to go to war with the next tribe, I suspect the most successful religious leader is going to be the guy that agrees with the Chief. Opposing armies always have chaplains, and they can't both be on the side of God. Populist preachers are a very old tradition in all cultures. > And then allow that hatred to spill out into the world of inocents. True. Once you get bitter enough, you don't care any more. The reason for the fight is the fight. Palestinians vs Israelis. I know you don't like the comparison, but the IRA vs the UDF. > The poverty and injustice is not our fault. Agreed, the British created Iraq. Invaders of all stripes have been wreaking havoc virtually forever thoughout the Muslim world. http://www.angelfire.com/nt/Gilgamesh/1918.html Below is a brief article on Iranian history which I picked as an example, duplicate this throughout the Middle East and Moslem Asia and you have some idea of the turmoil ingrained in their cultures. http://sg.travel.yahoo.com/guide/middle_east/iran/history.html Middle Eastern people can have very long memories, and a slight that took place 100 years ago can still be kept fresh and alive. Not true of everyone of course, but some people stay insulted forever and look for ways to get even. Then along comes the Osamas of the world who take that suspicion and fan it into flames. From that comes Jihadis, then repression, then the cycle starts all over again. > I think it is a result of totalitarianism in Islam. I think some Islamic sects have done and are doing tremendous damage, for example Wahabism in Saudi Arabia. It is up to local goverments to control these lunatics, and we have every right to demand that they do, or we must hold those governments accountable at whatever level and by whatever means are necessary. http://www.saag.org/papers10/paper903.html > Set me straight. I wish it was simple. It isn't and I believe the trick here is to whack the crap out of the bad guys while winning the support and respect of the good guys. Or maybe I'm just seriously deluded, wouldn't be the first time. George <snip> > I wish it was simple. It isn't and I believe the trick here is to whack > the crap out of the bad guys while winning the support and respect of > the good guys. Or maybe I'm just seriously deluded, wouldn't be the > first time. How do we do both? > George  Signature"Tolerance is the virtue of a man without convictions" G.K. Chesterton > <snip> > > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > How do we do both? That's way above my pay grade, but I think its beginning already. Seems to be lots of serious dialogue between a number of governments and moderate Islamic groups, plus I think the moderates are getting really pissed with the radicals and starting to exert some serious pressure. You'll know the pressure is working when Al Jazeera starts to sing a different tune, and I think even that may be just starting to happen. I had a quick look tonight and it seemed a little less rabid than usual. http://tinyurl.com/7rj9u http://tinyurl.com/8dgmy Then of course we should lift the ban on political assasination and get rid of the worst of the a.sholes, starting with the ones that *nobody* likes. Make the CIA earn their keep! :) Might also figure out a plan to force the Saudis to clean house too. George Let me preface this with the statement that you are the first of as many of the integers in writing that I can remember who was remotely reasonable. As many of the extreme leftists would like to portray me and my "ilk" as madmen, bent on war, I appreciate your attempt at reaching out, without the typical slander and judgment. I think American leftists and their bullshit do as much or more to perpetuate the violence as anyone, but you'll never hear them cop to it. > I wish it was simple. It isn't and I believe the trick here is to whack > the crap out of the bad guys while winning the support and respect of > the good guys. Or maybe I'm just seriously deluded, wouldn't be the > first time. No, there are a lot of people who don't want a war, but at the same time are fed up with the mass murders, me included. I couldn't give a sh.t less about the word of Allah written on/in the Quran, I just want the mass murders to stop. In my mind, these people don't want an end to war; Without war, according to the Mullahs that preach this sh.t, there is no honor. Kinda like the Catholic priests that rape little boys. . > Kinda like the Catholic priests that rape little boys. So lets kill all the Catholics along with all the Ragheads. > So lets kill all the Catholics along with all the Ragheads. Well, consider the fact that each of them like to have rather large families, that sure would cut down on the population explosion... Especially if you also included the Mormons... >> So lets kill all the Catholics along with all the Ragheads. > > Well, consider the fact that each of them like to have rather large > families, that sure would cut down on the population explosion... > Especially > if you also included the Mormons... Decisions, decisions. Well, I suppose if the cute young Mormonettes could be convinced that bigamous marriages are OK even with older already-married non-Mormons, we can let a few of them live. Kill the rest of them if you must. >>Kinda like the Catholic priests that rape little boys. > > So lets kill all the Catholics along with all the Ragheads. just the priests, please, Greg I was at a local diocesan camp headed by a pedophile priest. The diocese had his nutty mom with him so they thought he wouldn't do anything bad. He got me into his bedroom one night so that I could give him a backrub and a pepsi. (There were none in the camp) After rubbing his back for a while, he asked me to take off my clothes. Before I could do anything two of the older counselors came into the priest room and told me to get out. I was in 6th grade, knew nothing of this behavior, and as a servant of God, didn't know he had done anything wrong. The Belleville Diocese has been inundated with all kinds of sexual misconduct - payoffs - reassignments - I Should have told someone many years ago. I am still catholic, baptized my children catholic, but do not practice, and only go to church on weddings (family) and funerals (families) Just the priests,Greg! > Just the priests,Greg! How about just the priests who have participated in this kind of activity? > > Just the priests,Greg! > > How about just the priests who have participated in this kind of activity? Exactly. >>Just the priests,Greg! > > How about just the priests who have participated in this kind of activity? I can go along with that >>>Kinda like the Catholic priests that rape little boys. >> >> So lets kill all the Catholics along with all the Ragheads. > just the priests, please, Greg That's like trying to separate the terrorists from the rest of the Ragheads. Most here suggest we simply nuke 'em all. I same the same about the catholics. I would nuke all christians, but I realize that not all christians are catholics. > That's like trying to separate the terrorists from the rest of the Ragheads. > Most here suggest we simply nuke 'em all. I same the same about the > catholics. I would nuke all christians, but I realize that not all > christians are catholics. Acceptable collateral damages? Got to be careful with that though... McVeigh kind of got in a bit of trouble with that idea... HINT -- It's not acceptable to blow up a daycare just to get rid of some BATF agents... Now, if there has *also* been some IRS agents in there, the equation might have balanced differently... <evil-grin> >>>>Kinda like the Catholic priests that rape little boys. >>> [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > catholics. I would nuke all christians, but I realize that not all > christians are catholics. most - i saw maybe two |
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