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Driving to Altitude after Repetitive Diving

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Scott - 15 Nov 2003 22:40 GMT
I'm going diving in Hawaii, and just realized I need to be concerned about
driving to higher altitude after a day of repetitive diving.

Assuming I do a couple of dives on air and max out the tables (worst case
scenario).

How long should I wait before driving back to where I'm staying, at
1,800-foot elevation?

I'm going to give DAN a call on Monday when their non-emergency office is
open. Just thought I'd check here in the meantime.

Thanks!
Brian Nadwidny - 16 Nov 2003 00:52 GMT
> I'm going diving in Hawaii, and just realized I need to be concerned about
> driving to higher altitude after a day of repetitive diving.
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>
> Thanks!

I wouldn't worry about.

The nervous nellies around here would probably want you to wait at least
a week.

Brian
Edmonton, Alberta
www.mossmanscubaventures.com
Greg Mossman - 16 Nov 2003 07:36 GMT
> I wouldn't worry about.
>
> The nervous nellies around here would probably want you to wait at least
> a week.

I live at 2,000' and never worried about driving home after a dive but I
will admit to some very-likely-psychosomatic tinglings when crossing over
3,000'+ passes on the way back from San Diego diving.  I don't know where
the poster is visiting, but I personally wouldn't schedule a trip up
Haleakala on Maui (10,000') or Volcano NP on the Big Island (5,000') or
Waimea Canyon on Kauai (4,000') too soon after a dive even though some
non-nervous nellies around here might do it while their hair is still wet.
Greg Mossman - 16 Nov 2003 07:44 GMT
> > I wouldn't worry about.
> >
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> Waimea Canyon on Kauai (4,000') too soon after a dive even though some
> non-nervous nellies around here might do it while their hair is still wet.

Oh, and here's a nifty, if conservative, chart:

http://faculty.washington.edu/ekay/altitude.html
Richard - 16 Nov 2003 01:32 GMT
I reckon you need to wait half an hour at before driving up the mountain.
This assumes that you are diving in the sea and atmospheric pressure at sea
level is above about 965 millibars.

Richard

> I'm going diving in Hawaii, and just realized I need to be concerned about
> driving to higher altitude after a day of repetitive diving.
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>
> Thanks!
rnf2 - 16 Nov 2003 02:50 GMT
> I'm going diving in Hawaii, and just realized I need to be concerned about
> driving to higher altitude after a day of repetitive diving.
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>
> Thanks!

Have a sandwich or burger and a drink before you leave, eating that should
give you time enough. 1800 feet is about 600 metres, you should be fine.

rhys
Oahu Dive Center - 16 Nov 2003 03:04 GMT
the only thing that gets people worried is a high drive...Haleakala or Mauna
Kea should be handled like a plane flight.

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> > I'm going diving in Hawaii, and just realized I need to be concerned about
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> rhys
Alan Street - 16 Nov 2003 03:53 GMT
>the only thing that gets people worried is a high drive...Haleakala or Mauna
>Kea should be handled like a plane flight.

Even then, it's much less of a worry than a plane flight. Remember that
it takes you quite a bit of time to drive up that high. It's almost
like ascending the last ten feet over a two hour time span.

Alan
Brian Nadwidny - 16 Nov 2003 06:42 GMT
> >the only thing that gets people worried is a high drive...Haleakala or Mauna
> >Kea should be handled like a plane flight.
>
> Even then, it's much less of a worry than a plane flight. Remember that
> it takes you quite a bit of time to drive up that high. It's almost
> like ascending the last ten feet over a two hour time span.

Easy Alan. Don't confuse people with reality. I think we're supposed to
say "Altitude kills" or something similar.

Brian
Edmonton, Alberta
www.mossmanscubaventures.com
rnf2 - 16 Nov 2003 06:59 GMT
> Easy Alan. Don't confuse people with reality. I think we're supposed to
> say "Altitude kills" or something similar.

Thats PADIs mantra.
David Scarlett - 16 Nov 2003 10:09 GMT
> I'm going diving in Hawaii, and just realized I need to be
> concerned about driving to higher altitude after a day of
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> How long should I wait before driving back to where I'm staying,
> at 1,800-foot elevation?

I'd probably recommend 12-24 hours. But then I'm on hyperbaric
physician, so don't take this as proper medical advice.

Someone in my dive club got bent many years ago driving to altitude 3
hours after their last dive (after 3 days of diving).

How safe going to altitude is will depend on the number and type of
dives you've done, how slow and steady your ascents were, whether you
used oxygen rich deco gasses and physical factors... But again, this is
just the rantings of a crazy person, not medical advice. So call DAN.

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Lee Bell - 16 Nov 2003 14:05 GMT
> Someone in my dive club got bent many years ago driving to altitude 3
> hours after their last dive (after 3 days of diving).

Someone in this group (me) got bent while driving home from a two tank
Boynton Beach dive truo, maximum altitude, 8 feet above sea level.  It takes
more than a single incident to set a range of risk.

Lee
Fiona Watson - 16 Nov 2003 19:05 GMT
Lee Bell <leebell@ix.remove.netcom.com> wrote in message news:quLtb.3648>
> Someone in this group (me) got bent while driving home from a two tank
> Boynton Beach dive truo, maximum altitude, 8 feet above sea level.  It takes
> more than a single incident to set a range of risk.

- I made it to about 50ft above sea-level, snuggled up in my duvet before I
noticed I'd got bent, and  I'd only done one dive after work

Fi
Brian Nadwidny - 16 Nov 2003 20:18 GMT
> Lee Bell <leebell@ix.remove.netcom.com> wrote in message news:quLtb.3648>
> > Someone in this group (me) got bent while driving home from a two tank
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>
> Fi

Maybe you should've waited 12 to 24 hours before ascending from sea
level.

Brian
Edmonton, Alberta
www.mossmanscubaventures.com
Brian Nadwidny - 16 Nov 2003 17:06 GMT
> I'd probably recommend 12-24 hours. But then I'm on hyperbaric
> physician, so don't take this as proper medical advice.

Or as proper advice period. He's talking 1800 ft. Give me a break.

> Someone in my dive club got bent many years ago driving to altitude 3
> hours after their last dive (after 3 days of diving).

Bullshit. They were already bent.

>  But again, this is
> just the rantings of a crazy person, not medical advice.

I agree.

Brian
Edmonton, Alberta
www.mossmanscubaventures.com
Dan Bracuk, CTHD - 16 Nov 2003 12:48 GMT
"Scott" <scottkeen@hotmail.com> pounded away at his keyboard resulting
in:
:I'm going diving in Hawaii, and just realized I need to be concerned about
:driving to higher altitude after a day of repetitive diving.

This is Scott
MyLastNameCan'tBeKoplinBecauseHawaiiHasWarmClearWaterWithLotsaPrettyFishies
right?

Dan Bracuk
If at first you don't succeed, you run the risk of failure.
The Best of rec.scuba http://www.pathcom.com/~bracuk/RecScuba/
de Valois - 17 Nov 2003 15:59 GMT
Scott left this mess on Sat, 15 Nov 2003 17:40:57 -0500 for The Way to clean up:

>I'm going diving in Hawaii, and just realized I need to be concerned about
>driving to higher altitude after a day of repetitive diving.
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>I'm going to give DAN a call on Monday when their non-emergency office is
>open. Just thought I'd check here in the meantime.

Assuming you don't hit a deco situation, about eighteen hours. Sorry, them's the
rules on the RDP.

Tao te Carl
"It takes a village to have an idiot." - Carl (c) 2003

(Kudos to Cap'n Jim Wyatt for this link) BEFORE you ask a dumb-a.s question
here...http://www.speakeasy.org/~neilco/bart.gif
Brian Nadwidny - 17 Nov 2003 23:52 GMT
> Assuming you don't hit a deco situation, about eighteen hours. Sorry, them's the
> rules on the RDP.

And what happens if you don't follow the "rules"?

Here's a hint.

Nothing.

Brian
Edmonton, Alberta
www.mossmanscubaventures.com
 
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