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Advice about going pro in the Scuba Industry

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ECUDiver - 09 May 2005 21:52 GMT
I really love diving and want to turn it into a career. I am still
doing research before I make the plunge. What is the best PADI school
for your IDC? Is Utilla better than Prodive in Ft. Lauderdale?

What kind of jobs do you get when you go all the way through to
instructor? My ideal job would be working in a resort in the Caribbean
preferrably on a dive boat. I could even wait tables on the side if I
had to until I got the right job.

My instructor said that divemasters stay "bent" all the time. Is that
really true and wouldn't that be really damaging to their body?

Any advice or experience you have in this area would be appreciated.
Thanks.
TonyP - 09 May 2005 23:02 GMT
> I really love diving and want to turn it into a career. I am still
> doing research before I make the plunge. What is the best PADI school
> for your IDC? Is Utilla better than Prodive in Ft. Lauderdale?

Don't know if it matters. Maybe job placement might.

> What kind of jobs do you get when you go all the way through to
> instructor? My ideal job would be working in a resort in the Caribbean
> preferrably on a dive boat. I could even wait tables on the side if I
> had to until I got the right job.

Good luck. And you would most likely have to wait tables and do dishes
in order to make a living.

> My instructor said that divemasters stay "bent" all the time. Is that
> really true and wouldn't that be really damaging to their body?

DM's do a lot of the "grunt" work that instructors don't want to do. I
guess it is their way of "it rolls downhill" for them. When they were
DM's they too were "slaves". Now that they are free to "own" the
"slaves" they make them work.
As for being "bent".... not likely. Remember, it is the DM's that do the
grunt work while the instructor tries to hit on the female students.

> Any advice or experience you have in this area would be appreciated.
> Thanks.

The pay is terrible. The benefits aren't that great. Get a REAL job and
instruct/DM on the side. All those wonderful PADI pics of the "careers"
in professional diving are bogus. It's tough work, low pay and low benefits.
Dillon Pyron - 10 May 2005 04:42 GMT
>I really love diving and want to turn it into a career. I am still
>doing research before I make the plunge. What is the best PADI school
>for your IDC? Is Utilla better than Prodive in Ft. Lauderdale?

It depends on what you want out of it.  I did my IDC with a guy by the
name of Ralph Ericsson.  Of course, I didn't need anything else
besides the instruction.

>What kind of jobs do you get when you go all the way through to
>instructor? My ideal job would be working in a resort in the Caribbean
>preferrably on a dive boat. I could even wait tables on the side if I
>had to until I got the right job.

I'm a security consultant.  I bill my clients $75 an hour and they
line up to pay for it.  That's enough to pay for my "hobby" as an
instructor.

>My instructor said that divemasters stay "bent" all the time. Is that
>really true and wouldn't that be really damaging to their body?

Your instructor knows not where he speaks of.  I'd find another
instructor.

>Any advice or experience you have in this area would be appreciated.
>Thanks.

I've been teaching for 10 years, now.  At $25 a student through the
local shop, it takes a lot of classes to cover insurance and
membership, never mind trying to make a living.  As a DM on a boat,
you might make enough to not starve.

You'll find that you may have trouble getting a job in the Caribbean,
as most countrie want jobs to go to their people, first.

I'd forget about making it a career.

It also sounds like you are just starting out ("my instructor").  Take
some time to dive before you go off and do something "romantic" and
foolish.  Is it really worth $700 a year to teach?

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Jammer Six - 10 May 2005 06:33 GMT
> I am still doing research before I make the plunge.

We can always use another divemaster.

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refusing an order to leave a hot L.Z., July 1, 1964,
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ECUDiver - 10 May 2005 14:22 GMT
I guess I should clarify some things. I have been diving for 3 years
now and am currently taking my PADI Rescue Diver. I know that I will
never get rich doing this but if I make enough to survive, that is
reward enough. I can think of a whole lot of things worse than getting
up every day knowing you are going to dive in the beautiful blue waters
of the Caribbean. I absolutely hate going to work in an office everyday
and believe that life is too short to do something for a living that
you don't enjoy. I have cash reserves that should allow me to live
pretty comfortably as long as I can make enough for room and board.
ben bradlee - 10 May 2005 15:12 GMT
> I can think of a whole lot of things worse than getting
> up every day knowing you are going to dive in the beautiful blue waters
> of the Caribbean.

You'll be getting up every day to take others diving in the waters of the
Caribbean.  There is a significant difference.
chilly - 10 May 2005 19:24 GMT
> I guess I should clarify some things. I have been diving for 3 years
> now and am currently taking my PADI Rescue Diver. I know that I will
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> you don't enjoy. I have cash reserves that should allow me to live
> pretty comfortably as long as I can make enough for room and board.

I suppose if you don't mind living in a hovel with 3 or more other starving
DM's, you'll be fine.

For example, the ex-pat DM's on Roatan that I have met, are almost all
living in group situations and almost all have a second job working as
waiters, bartenders, etc.

If you have cash reserves, why not just take an extended vacation
(sabbatical) somewhere and go dive every day for pleasure.  After a while,
you may find that you are ready to get back to home and office.  If you find
that the lifestyle actually suits you, you can look to getting your DM
training there.
Al Wells - 10 May 2005 21:22 GMT
> I suppose if you don't mind living in a hovel with 3 or more other starving
> DM's, you'll be fine.

you'll also clean marine heads, clean bilges, scrape barnacles and
paint, put new paint on, load/unload/fill endless tanks, deal with
people who can't clear their ears, etc.
chilly - 10 May 2005 21:50 GMT
> > I suppose if you don't mind living in a hovel with 3 or more other starving
> > DM's, you'll be fine.
>
> you'll also clean marine heads, clean bilges, scrape barnacles and
> paint, put new paint on, load/unload/fill endless tanks, deal with
> people who can't clear their ears, etc.

Yes, it's all so romantic.
Greg Mossman - 10 May 2005 23:18 GMT
>> > I suppose if you don't mind living in a hovel with 3 or more other
> starving
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> Yes, it's all so romantic.

Chicks dig 'em.
Dillon Pyron - 11 May 2005 03:54 GMT
>> I suppose if you don't mind living in a hovel with 3 or more other starving
>> DM's, you'll be fine.
>
>you'll also clean marine heads, clean bilges, scrape barnacles and
>paint, put new paint on, load/unload/fill endless tanks, deal with
>people who can't clear their ears, etc.

You forgot getting up a 4 am to check the boat and make sure all the
tanks are loaded.  So you can be at the dock by 6:30.

Been there, done that.  Six days a week of diving always sounds
romantic until you've done it.

No Jammer, I didn't make the coffee, but I did pickup the donuts.

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Jammer Six - 11 May 2005 08:31 GMT
> No Jammer, I didn't make the coffee, but I did pickup the donuts.

Just like a dm.

Wants the tips without the work. Or the spelling.

Coffee, boy. Black, hot, and now.

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-Major Charles L. Kelly, callsign "Dustoff",
refusing an order to leave a hot L.Z., July 1, 1964,
moments before being killed by a single shot.

Dillon Pyron - 11 May 2005 23:03 GMT
>> No Jammer, I didn't make the coffee, but I did pickup the donuts.
>
>Just like a dm.
>
>Wants the tips without the work. Or the spelling.

Donuts, doughnuts, both seem to work.  Depends on where you're buying
them from.  Besides, all I have to spell is PADI, Vincency & Buckley
and seven hundred dollars.

>Coffee, boy. Black, hot, and now.

Yessa, massa.

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Joe - 11 May 2005 01:07 GMT
Your instinct is good.

If you are young, have a lot of patience with the steady stream of
stupid people and other morons that many times dive and post here, and
you love to SCUBA got for it.

>I guess I should clarify some things. I have been diving for 3 years
>now and am currently taking my PADI Rescue Diver. I know that I will
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>you don't enjoy. I have cash reserves that should allow me to live
>pretty comfortably as long as I can make enough for room and board.
Jammer Six - 11 May 2005 04:05 GMT
>  I know that I will
> never get rich doing this but if I make enough to survive, that is
> reward enough.

Well, there's always tips...

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"When I have your wounded." 
-Major Charles L. Kelly, callsign "Dustoff",
refusing an order to leave a hot L.Z., July 1, 1964,
moments before being killed by a single shot.

Grumman-581 - 11 May 2005 04:08 GMT
> Well, there's always tips...

So said the mohel...
Dillon Pyron - 11 May 2005 23:04 GMT
>>  I know that I will
>> never get rich doing this but if I make enough to survive, that is
>> reward enough.
>
>Well, there's always tips...

How much do you tip a female dm.

Depends on how round her heels are.

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Scott - 11 May 2005 23:32 GMT
> >Well, there's always tips...
>
> How much do you tip a female dm.
>
> Depends on how round her heels are.

<rimshot>
Vincent Fox - 17 May 2005 21:19 GMT
>I really love diving and want to turn it into a career.

I knew this guy Jeff in Boynton Beach, working in a dive
shop at a marina.

He said "I should never have turned a fun hobby into a job".
Got sick of it doing it day in and day out, and scrabbling to
make enough not to starve in a cutthroat industry.

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Salty - 22 May 2005 12:22 GMT
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I really love diving and want to turn it into a career. I am still
doing research before I make the plunge. What is the best PADI school
for your IDC? Is Utilla better than Prodive in Ft. Lauderdale?

What kind of jobs do you get when you go all the way through to
instructor? My ideal job would be working in a resort in the Caribbean
preferrably on a dive boat. I could even wait tables on the side if I
had to until I got the right job.

My instructor said that divemasters stay "bent" all the time. Is that
really true and wouldn't that be really damaging to their body?

Any advice or experience you have in this area would be appreciated.
Thanks.

I see that several ppl here gave you 'advise.'   I'm glad that they did
cause you need to balance it all out,  take the crap answers with the
decent answers.  I think that you got alot of crap answers so far.  I
suggest that you take a minute and look on www.bajaex.com  You'll see a
wide variety of DM's on there,  but most have degrees and that is
something you should persue.  There's a lady who used to post here on
this group on a regular basis until she got a job as a DM in the
carribean....  and some of us are still lucky enough to get pics back
from her.  I think that if you asked,  she wouldn't mind telling you at
all how she is living her dream with a DM job and how it's working for
her.  She's very happy and she would tell the  "na-sayers"  here to
sh.t in their hat and wear it.  <grin>
 
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