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Scuba Forum / General / November 2003Surviving diver recounts horror of Baja Mexico dive trip
Surviving diver recounts horror of Baja Mexico dive trip http://www.cdnn.info/safety/s031114a/s031114a.html > Surviving diver recounts horror of Baja Mexico dive trip > http://www.cdnn.info/safety/s031114a/s031114a.html Having been diving there two years in a row and my most recent trip was with Ken Kurtis just 6 or 8 weeks ago... and having been diving with the alledged guilty dive operation, Baja Expeditions, I am left shaking my head at the account of this incident. The diver who died was a woman named Vrooman, who was 77 yrs old. I don't see the age of the person who was her buddy...a woman named Hoover, someone who had been Vrooman's buddy for 13 yrs of diving trips. The account is given by Scott Jones. He says... "Marilyn and Katie were very in tune to each other. They were never more than 5 or 6 ft apart." From the report : "Suddenly there was a sea surge, he said, which the dive master never warned them about. Suddenly Vrooman was separated from Hoover and Jones from his dive partner, he said. "The surge was coming in and out", he said. "I saw Katie by herself and I knew something was wrong. Katie was never by herself." And then he said, Vrooman disappeared. Jones said he went to the surface and inflated his BCD. It was then that he saw the surge throw Vrooman twice against the rocks and boulders." The account gets stranger and stanger by the minute from there. After diving there, it wouldn't take a dive master's briefing for me to understand that there was the potential of a strong surge in many areas. I don't think that any diver would need a diver master to point that out if the diver had a fair amount of experience with shore diving. And this victim was a supposedly a woman who had been diving at least 13 yrs ?? She was 77 yrs old... think maybe she just shouldn't have diving in those conditions at her age ?? The witness goes on to say how he took his gear off and tried mouth to mouth resus with her, etc. Where was the boat at this time ?? This account is beyond belief. On 15 Nov 2003 20:39:32 -0800,(Salty) wrote ... >The witness goes on to say how he took his gear off >and tried mouth to mouth resus with her, etc. Mouth to mouth on a 77 yr old woman? Eeewwww... As Robin would say, "Shades of old lady perfume, Batman" I think I could have done without that mental image tonight... > The account gets stranger and stanger by the minute from there. And it continually changes. I was just about to add your list of oddities by remarking on Jones's inflating his "life jacket" when he surfaced, a fact that a careful CDNN diver-reporter would normally be sure to edit when plagiarizing a news story, when I re-clicked on your link only to find that the offending "life jacket" had been amended to read "BCD (buoyancy vest)". Amazing stuff. > > The account gets stranger and stanger by the minute from there. > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > the offending "life jacket" had been amended to read "BCD (buoyancy vest)". > Amazing stuff. Plagiarizing? No way! Really? A CDNN "diver-reporter" plagiarize? Never happens. Wait never mind I forgot they always plagiarize, steal then post everywhere to get hits for CDNN so that advertisers pay and stay with them. CDNN is a parasite on the Internet. >> > The account gets stranger and stanger by the minute from there. >> [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > >CDNN is a parasite on the Internet. OK, you've got a hard cock for CDNN. Now be a good boy, take your meds and go back to Rodale's, the chatroom brain-dead divers trust ("Hey gang, read all about Coz's best bars in the next issue of Blundercurrent" DocVikingo) >> The account gets stranger and stanger by the minute from there. > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >the offending "life jacket" had been amended to read "BCD (buoyancy vest)". >Amazing stuff. Don't worry. Your hallucinations ("life preserver" LOL) will subside with proper medication, and it's never too late to improve your poor reading skills and expand your vocabulary (we can start with "plagiarize"), however, I'm afraid there's absolutely nothing we can do about a mind incapable of anything beyond trivial observations. >> Surviving diver recounts horror of Baja Mexico dive trip >> http://www.cdnn.info/safety/s031114a/s031114a.html [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] >with her, etc. Where was the boat at this time ?? This account is >beyond belief. Good post! The lack of information about any emergency response by the dive boat involved is indeed puzzling. One thing is clear from recent accident reports. There has been an increase in accidents involving lost divers. Something to keep in mind when planning a drift dive halfway around the world on the "MV Myopic Paradise". Carla, Carla, Carla . . . tch, tch, tch . . . off the meds again I see. > >> Surviving diver recounts horror of Baja Mexico dive trip > >> http://www.cdnn.info/safety/s031114a/s031114a.html [quoted text clipped - 37 lines] > involving lost divers. Something to keep in mind when planning a > drift dive halfway around the world on the "MV Myopic Paradise". > drift dive halfway around the world on the "MV Myopic Paradise". Replying with a different nick and email but it's me... LOL !! The M/V Myopic Paradise is very funny !! Great humor !! :) Re: your statement about lost divers, well consider this : The man named Scott was supposedly a Master Instructor, IIRC. The account mentions nothing at all about him using a whistle, dive sausage, Dive Alert, flare or any other signaling device that one might carry in an area with dives such as this. Does that seem odd to you ?? Also... Scott was separated from his buddy. And Vrooman, the dead diver, was separated from her buddy. Now... let's just assume that the crew of the boat drank way too many tequlla shots that day and didn't bother to take a head count of divers after the dive. Why didn't Scott's buddy and Vrooman's buddy speak up and say that their pals were a bit lost at sea so that the boat didn't just leave ?? Something isn't right here. I know that many ppl hate CDNN. I don't think CDNN is that bad though. They have reprinted the account as it appears in another paper. If the first account is wrong, it isn't CDNN's fault now is it ??????? > I know that many ppl hate CDNN. I don't think CDNN is that bad > though. They have reprinted the account as it appears in another > paper. If the first account is wrong, it isn't CDNN's fault now is it > ??????? They reprinted it? You can't tell from the article, which appears to be written by Thomas Geyer of CDNN with no credit to another source. If CDNN is merely a reprinter of unoriginal material, why don't they say so? "They have reprinted the account as it appears in another paper. If the first account is wrong, it isn't CDNN's fault now is it" It is if they reprint it as if it was their own. "Responsible journalism" and all that means that you verify the accuracy of your source material and, if you can't, you don't print it. Something that CDNN seems to ignore a lot of the time. Sensationalistic reporting sure is popular these days, though...  SignatureBriggs Christie Oahu Dive Center Kailua, Hawaii 1-866-933-DIVE www.oahudivecenter.com > > > I know that many ppl hate CDNN. I don't think CDNN is that bad [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > written by Thomas Geyer of CDNN with no credit to another source. If CDNN > is merely a reprinter of unoriginal material, why don't they say so? >"They have reprinted the account as it appears in another >paper. If the first account is wrong, it isn't CDNN's fault now is it" [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > >Sensationalistic reporting sure is popular these days, though... The article is clearly sourced to "QC Times". News portal sites like Yahoo, Moreover, Google, CDNN and the thousands of others including newspapers that publish wire reports (AP, Reuters, UPI) and sourced news (Google boasts over 4,500 sources) never ever verify the accuracy of the source material. Sensationalistic reporting has always been popular (check the archives of the Honolulu Advertiser and Honolulu Star-Bulletin) especially when the news is sensational for example Rodale's getting busted for fraudulent scuba equipment "reviews". Still, most people who get through junior high school (and Jane Austen's Pride and Prejudice and Lord of the Flies) understand the difference between reporting and editorializing. (How far did you get in your formal education before you picked up your 5-day instructor "diploma"?) >"They have reprinted the account as it appears in another >paper. If the first account is wrong, it isn't CDNN's fault now is it" [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > >Sensationalistic reporting sure is popular these days, though... Aloha Christie! Noticed that your "we built it in an hour" web site features Rodale's and its Top 100 stuff-the-ballot-box scam. Since you are obviously attempting to promote your business with yet another Rodale's marketing scam, it would certainly appear you have a vested interest in supporting Rodale's and criticizing anyone who questions their integrity. BTW, isn't Rodale's Top 100 the same promotional scam that rated Rodale's advertiser Kelly's On the Bay/Aqua Nut Divers the best dive op in Florida? As I recall, that was about a month or so after they were convicted of gross negligence for returning to base without two of their boat diving customers AND FAILING TO NOTICE THE DIVERS WERE MISSING despite two missing scuba tanks and two unaccounted for gear bags on the deck of the boat? Evidently all you have to do to win is advertise with Rodale's, demonstrate that you're too stupid to count, and get convicted of gross negligence. Good luck Christie with the magazine Oahu Dive Center trusts! "Since you are obviously attempting to promote your business with yet another Rodale's marketing scam, it would certainly appear you have a vested interest in supporting Rodale's and criticizing anyone who questions their integrity." Incorrect. I'm attempting to get exposure in a widely distributed magazine for free. I have no "vested interest" in Rodale's. SignatureBriggs Christie Oahu Dive Center Kailua, Hawaii 1-866-933-DIVE www.oahudivecenter.com > > >"They have reprinted the account as it appears in another [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > too stupid to count, and get convicted of gross negligence. Good luck > Christie with the magazine Oahu Dive Center trusts! >"Since you are obviously attempting to promote your business with yet >another [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >Incorrect. I'm attempting to get exposure in a widely distributed magazine >for free. I have no "vested interest" in Rodale's. Incorrect. You have a vested interest in supporting Rodale's and its scams because you are attempting to promote your business via a Rodale's marketing gimmick that rewards advertisers, ballot box stuffers and dive ops busted for criminal negligence. Discerning divers utilize such nonsense as a contrary indicator. Go for it! Not to be picky, but isn't it amazing how CDNN's "best choice" gear is made by their sponsors? I guess the pot is calling the kettle a little black, maybe? SignatureBriggs Christie Oahu Dive Center Kailua, Hawaii 1-866-933-DIVE www.oahudivecenter.com > > >"They have reprinted the account as it appears in another [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > too stupid to count, and get convicted of gross negligence. Good luck > Christie with the magazine Oahu Dive Center trusts! >Not to be picky, but isn't it amazing how CDNN's "best choice" gear is made >by their sponsors? No, it's not. But what is amazing is that you deliberately lied which confirms that Oahu Dive Center is on the same page as Rodale's, your wannabe partner in marketing scams and other crimes against the diving public. Also amazing is that you incorrectly stated that the scuba equipment ratings are part of the CDNN site. I have never seen a scuba equipment rating in CDNN--only recall notices, consumer alerts and a few new product press releases. Even more amazing is that you failed to notice all of the other NON-SPONSOR equipment manufacturers that got "Best Buys" or "Best Gear" ratings, and that many of the sponsor competitors were rated more often and above sponsor products. And still more amazing, is that you neglected to mention that of the 37 "Best Buy" equipment listings (I just counted them), Suunto, a sponsor, was NOTlisted at all. WHAT??? Cyber Diver did not feature their sponsor as a Best Buy product??? NOW THAT REALLY IS AMAZING. And although one of Suunto's products tied for the best dive computer rating, Cyber Diver listed the non-sponsor company above the sponsor!#% WOW! Anyway Christie, best wishes for continued success distorting the truth and colluding with Rodale's to defraud the diving public! "I have never seen a scuba equipment rating in CDNN" http://i-planet.org/cyberdiver/gear/buyersguide/buyersguide.html Oh yeah, THAT equipment rating page. "Even more amazing is that you failed to notice all of the other NON-SPONSOR equipment manufacturers that got "Best Buys" or "Best Gear" ratings" You mean on the ratings page that you've never seen? "And still more amazing, is that you neglected to mention that of the 37 "Best Buy" equipment listings (I just counted them), Suunto, a sponsor, was NOTlisted at all. WHAT??? Cyber Diver did not feature their sponsor as a Best Buy product???" Really? I see the Suunto Vytec as the top-rated computer at 9.8 on the page noted above. And their "new gear" page is a full-page ad for it. http://i-planet.org/cyberdiver/gear/newgear/newgear.html "best wishes for continued success distorting the truth and colluding with Rodale's to defraud the diving public!" Let's see...what was it that I was lying about again? The CDNN sponsor is the top-rated gear and the new product full-page feature. Where excactly did I distort that? SignatureBriggs Christie Oahu Dive Center Kailua, Hawaii 1-866-933-DIVE www.oahudivecenter.com > > >Not to be picky, but isn't it amazing how CDNN's "best choice" gear is made [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > distorting the truth and colluding with Rodale's to defraud the diving > public! >"I have never seen a >scuba equipment rating in CDNN" [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] >the top-rated gear and the new product full-page feature. Where excactly did >I distort that? Repeat after me: "I, Christie Biggs, am a complete buffoon who failed my third-grade reading lessons. I am incapable of discerning the difference between Cyber-Diver.com (magazine style site focused mostly on scuba equipment and dive travel) and CDNN.info (a news portal with no scuba equipment reviews)." Both sites are part of the i-Planet scuba portal network, which also includes other scuba-related sites that are - SURPRISE - entirely different from either Cyber Diver or CDNN. The Cyber Diver site contains a Best Buys section that features 37 different items of scuba equipment BUT NOT ONE PRODUCT manufactured by Suunto, one of the sponsors you are referring to. I repeat: Not one Suunto product is contained in Cyber Diver's 'Best Buys' feature. http://www.cyber-diver.com/deal.html Now repeat after me: "I Christie Biggs, am a complete buffoon who failed my third-grade reading lessons. I am incapable of discerning the difference between two different comparative features - 'Best Scuba Equipment' and 'Best Buys'". In 'Best Scuba Equipment' Suunto and another manufacturer tied for the top rating according to the page I just looked at YET the non-sponsor was listed above Suunto. You neglected to mention that. Moreover, Cyber Diver is hardly alone in rating that particular Suunto product as the best or one of the best dive computers on the market. So the implication that Cyber Diver is somewho skewing the results to favor sponsors is absurd and nothing more than a rather transparent attempt to shift the focus away from the fact that you are so desperate for some promotion, Oahu Dive Center is attempting to profit from a Rodale's marketing scam that was widely criticized in this newsgroup, most notably by Captain Jim Wyatt. Here's what Captain Jim had to say about the scam and Rodale's, your wannabe partner in crime: Newsgroups: rec.scuba Subject: Rodales' Top 10 Dive Operators From: jim@reef-divers.com (Capt Jim Wyatt) Organization: Florida Keys Reef-Divers Message-ID: <91A5A612Ejim.ertyregultaor@65.82.44.7> User-Agent: Xnews/03.04.11 Lines: 17 X-Complaints-To: abuse@usenetserver.com X-Abuse-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly. NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2002 16:31:41 EST Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2002 21:31:41 GMT Normally I try not to be negative or have negative comments...But having just scanned Rodales' March 2002 issue I have to say few things. Of the top 10 I know of 3 that hardly deserve such a fine review. One of them left divers on the reef for 26 hours. One had a dive boat sink loaded with divers. One of the others had a very dfficult time keeping their boat up to minimum standards to meet USCG requirements in terms of passing inspection. I have felt for a long time now that good reviews go to the highest bidders at Rodales' SignatureCaptain Jim Wyatt PADI Master Instructor #4612 Florida Keys Reef-Divers http://reef-divers.com So let's see, what was that you were lying about again Christie? (hint: Oahu Dive Center + Rodale's marketing scam = ???) Since this whole conversation started at the CDNN site, I guess that means that you've strayed far from the subject matter. Oh well. SignatureBriggs Christie Oahu Dive Center Kailua, Hawaii 1-866-933-DIVE www.oahudivecenter.com > > >"I have never seen a [quoted text clipped - 83 lines] > I have felt for a long time now that good reviews go to the highest > bidders at Rodales' > I have never seen a > scuba equipment rating in CDNN--only recall notices, consumer alerts > and a few new product press releases. Even more amazing is that you > failed to notice all of the other NON-SPONSOR equipment manufacturers > that got "Best Buys" or "Best Gear" ratings, and that many of the > sponsor competitors were rated more often and above sponsor products. Ummm, there seems to be something wrong with these two statements. >> I have never seen a >> scuba equipment rating in CDNN--only recall notices, consumer alerts [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > >Ummm, there seems to be something wrong with these two statements. There are at least half a dozen sites in the i-Planet scuba portal network that vary considerably in focus and content. I may be wrong but I don't think CDNN tests scuba equipment nor does the site contain scuba equipment reviews. At least there is nothing in any of the navigation menus (that I could find that) points to scuba equipment features. The only stuff I found in CDNN focused exclusively on scuba equipment is a news section that contains equipment recall announcements. >> I know that many ppl hate CDNN. I don't think CDNN is that bad >> though. They have reprinted the account as it appears in another [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >written by Thomas Geyer of CDNN with no credit to another source. If CDNN >is merely a reprinter of unoriginal material, why don't they say so? Are we looking at the same web site? The article is properly credited and sourced, "SOURCE - QC Times". Is it too late to get a refund on your third-grade readling lessons? > >They reprinted it? You can't tell from the article, which appears to be > >written by Thomas Geyer of CDNN with no credit to another source. If CDNN > >is merely a reprinter of unoriginal material, why don't they say so? > Are we looking at the same web site? The article is properly credited > and sourced, "SOURCE - QC Times". Is it too late to get a refund on > your third-grade readling lessons? Now, now. There's no need to get bitchy with Mr Mossman. Btw... I think that CDNN reprints most of their stories but I could be wrong on this. They usually say the source of the article but I have noticed that sometimes they list it in a very light color so that it's not that easily read. >> >They reprinted it? You can't tell from the article, which appears to be >> >written by Thomas Geyer of CDNN with no credit to another source. If CDNN [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >that sometimes they list it in a very light color so that it's not >that easily read. Depends on the source. Playboy is in high-profile, bold, "put it in your mouth babe" lipstick red. BBC is in austere, mid-Atlantic "No darling, I always have sex with my socks on" gray. Nature is in bold, expanding our frontiers blue-green. And DAN accident stats are in faded Pete Bennett 'corrupt undies yellow'. Correction: Change "corrupt undies yellow" to "cobalt yellow". My mistake! > Are we looking at the same web site? The article is properly credited > and sourced, "SOURCE - QC Times". Is it too late to get a refund on > your third-grade readling lessons? Readling lessons? I haven't readled in ages. But I will admit my eyes failed to notice the faint light grey on white print at the end of the plagiarized article. Proper crediting and sourcing is done right at the beginning of the article in the byline, in the same typeface and color as the rest of the article. But who would expect a plagiarizer to be proper? >> Are we looking at the same web site? The article is properly credited >> and sourced, "SOURCE - QC Times". Is it too late to get a refund on [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >typeface and color as the rest of the article. But who would expect a >plagiarizer to be proper? That's easy! Anyone with at least a third-grade education who understands the meaning of "plagiarize" and can spell "gray". Anyway, if your attempt to demonize CDNN has bogged down into picking at DARK GRAY nits and sniveling about CDNN's page layout, I reckon the jury's in and the verdict is to leave Rodale's forked tongue tickling your flabby old a.s. About your failing eyes, you might try a different screen resolution, or dump the chatroom habit altogether (some say it's easier to quit smoking) and take up a new hobby. How about checkers old timer? >That's easy! Anyone with at least a third-grade education who >understands the meaning of "plagiarize" and can spell "gray". At least in the UK we're generally better than third-grade and can manage the correct spelling of GREY! :) David "Two nations divided by a common language". George Bernard Shaw. >>That's easy! Anyone with at least a third-grade education who >>understands the meaning of "plagiarize" and can spell "gray". [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >David But that's only because limeys worship whores like Princess Di, the Spice Girls and David Beckham. God f.ck the queen's royal a.s! > >>That's easy! Anyone with at least a third-grade education who > >>understands the meaning of "plagiarize" and can spell "gray". [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > But that's only because limeys worship whores like Princess Di, the > Spice Girls and David Beckham. God f.ck the queen's royal a.s! big words from baby dick. > Anyway, if your attempt to demonize CDNN has bogged down into picking > at DARK GRAY nits and sniveling about CDNN's page layout, I reckon the [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > (some say it's easier to quit smoking) and take up a new hobby. How > about checkers old timer? Chatroom? That's a terrible misspelling of "newsgroup". Try again. > That's easy! Anyone with at least a third-grade education who > understands the meaning of "plagiarize" and can spell "gray". it's Grey you undereducated Yank!! try and write English, not that horrid corrupted Americanese. I bet you misspell colour too. rhys A friend of mine once posted colo(u)rfully in his rare appearance in rec.scuba, "I feel like I am about to stick my pecker into a sackful of ferrets" -- this occasion certainly fits that bill for me. :-) > > That's easy! Anyone with at least a third-grade education who > > understands the meaning of "plagiarize" and can spell "gray". > > it's Grey you undereducated Yank!! try and write English, not that horrid > corrupted Americanese. Don't you mean "Try to write" rather than "try and write"? Don't you also mean to have a comma between "horrid" and "corrupted", unless you think "horrid" is an adverb? > I bet you misspell colour too. Yup. He should spell it "colo(u)r" for uneducated Poms. > rhys > A friend of mine once posted colo(u)rfully in his rare appearance in > rec.scuba, "I feel like I am about to stick my pecker into a sackful > of ferrets" -- this occasion certainly fits that bill for me. :-) ;) sounds like Rec.Scuba to me. > > > That's easy! Anyone with at least a third-grade education who > > > understands the meaning of "plagiarize" and can spell "gray". [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Don't you also mean to have a comma between "horrid" and "corrupted", > unless you think "horrid" is an adverb? Hey, I'm a typical Liberal, "Do as I say, not as I do" > > I bet you misspell colour too. > > Yup. He should spell it "colo(u)r" for uneducated Poms. > > > rhys >A friend of mine once posted colo(u)rfully in his rare appearance in >rec.scuba, "I feel like I am about to stick my pecker into a sackful [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > >> rhys Ouch! You can put your ferrets back in the sack now that you've "de-peckered" another uneducated Pom bastard. When you ask a question like "Does that seem odd to you?", you seem to belabor the obvious because that's precisely the reason why there was an accident. There were a lot of "odd" things about the dive. We focus on these "odd" things now because there was a fatality. Though I don't presume to be an expert diver but in the majority of dives I've been in, there's always something "odd" like the divemaster not having some sort of signaling device or what not. Rare is the dive operator that is so meticulous that they will do everything by the book. When the dive is uneventful, we don't even notice or pay attention to such "oddities". However when something does happen, the hindsight becomes 20/20 and we start noticing those odd things. > > >> Surviving diver recounts horror of Baja Mexico dive trip > > >> http://www.cdnn.info/safety/s031114a/s031114a.html [quoted text clipped - 62 lines] > paper. If the first account is wrong, it isn't CDNN's fault now is it > ??????? > When you ask a question like "Does that seem odd to you?", you seem to > belabor the obvious because that's precisely the reason why there was an [quoted text clipped - 81 lines] >>paper. If the first account is wrong, it isn't CDNN's fault now is it >>??????? Another top-poster! > When you ask a question like "Does that seem odd to you?", you seem to > belabor the obvious because that's precisely the reason why there was an [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > even notice or pay attention to such "oddities". However when something does > happen, the hindsight becomes 20/20 and we start noticing those odd things. You could have a point about the 'oddities'. >> >> Surviving diver recounts horror of Baja Mexico dive trip >> >> http://www.cdnn.info/safety/s031114a/s031114a.html [quoted text clipped - 62 lines] >paper. If the first account is wrong, it isn't CDNN's fault now is it >??????? It's just a few ppl - mostly industry insiders - who resent CDNN because they fear an independent voice that has effectively taken over the information flow formerly controlled by the print media. And well they should. There's a lot of money at stake - millions of ad bucks - and the industry kingpins understand that CDNN can rip ad campaigns into tiny worthless pieces literally overnight. Ask Mike Ball. > It's just a few ppl - mostly industry insiders - who resent CDNN > because they fear an independent voice that has effectively taken over > the information flow formerly controlled by the print media. And well > they should. There's a lot of money at stake - millions of ad bucks - > and the industry kingpins understand that CDNN can rip ad campaigns > into tiny worthless pieces literally overnight. Ask Mike Ball. What happened with Mike Ball ?? CDNN isn't exactly kind to Peter Hughes. Being from the home town of astonaut Alan Shepard I have to wonder......................whats up with that nickname? > >> Surviving diver recounts horror of Baja Mexico dive trip > >> http://www.cdnn.info/safety/s031114a/s031114a.html [quoted text clipped - 37 lines] > involving lost divers. Something to keep in mind when planning a > drift dive halfway around the world on the "MV Myopic Paradise". > Being from the home town of astonaut Alan Shepard I have to > wonder......................whats up with that nickname? There is no explaining the multitude of pseudnames Scuba Booby of CDNN uses. Derry, New Hampshire is a wonderful place by the way. |
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