This is a REVISED posting of a subthread, within a rec.scuba
thread/post:

"Grudge Holder Hugh (NED) Huntzinger EXPOSED once again", within

"DF reveals the Dysfunctional Gang on a hook"

H. Huntzinger, the Army peon who asked Bob Ling for the archives of
published NED (back in 1993), stole and plagiarist Bob Ling's original
NED FAQ (circa 1994) , published his plagiarized versions on webpages
without acknowledgement, and used the posting name of Hugh (NED)
Huntzinger to mislead people into thinking that he actually had the
NED (Network of Egghead Divers) HUMOR and NED spirit.

This was the ORIGINAL version:

http://tinyurl.com/5oj4b

written by Tony Kuhlman, whom I appointed as the NED Committee
Chairman, with Diane Palme and myself as Committee Members.
The items 0, 1, 2. 3, ... 6  were written by ME, verbatim, and
it appeared in the preliminary and about 110 lines of this first
version 1.10.

Hugh asked to be put on the Committee, after the FAQ was already
finished :-)  and contributed to items 7, 8, 9 (about 25 lines)
of that FAQ.

Hugh was never a figurative "Egghead" as folks in academia are.  The
Founder (one who called himself the "Founding Farter of NED") was an
academic prof.

RF>  19 Jan 94  Alan F  > NED Founding Farter

Not being satisfied to have plagiarized the work of the NED Committee,
Hugh put more of his own into it and published HIS version as "New and
Improved" in

http://scifi.squawk.com/ned.html

which cleverly snipping ALL historic credit/reference such as:

Tony.Kuhlman   Sep 1 1994, 12:17 pm     show options

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Date: Thu, 1 Sep 1994 13:43:00 EDT
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Hello all.  As the NED Keeper of the FAQ, I do hereby distribute, mail,
and
dump upon you (insert trumpet fanfare here) "The Official NED FAQ"
(applause,
cheers, adulation).  For the Newbies, a FAQ is a list of Frequently
Asked
Questions.  I sent this directly to Earl when he recently sent a
request.  For
the benefit of the newbies who have found us, I'm sending it to the
list.  You
old NEDheads, go easy on the newbies.  I heard reference of death by
e-mail;
let's have none of that.  (maiming via the internet is allowed though,
if you
can do it anonymously and without leaving identifying marks)

 Without further ado, I give you:
                       ** The Official NED FAQ  **
                        version 1.0   1 April '94

Please send ideas for additions, deletions, corrections, and comments
to the
ad hoc committee members (via E-MAIL please, not
<SCUB...@brownvm.brown.edu>)
on the construction of better NED FAQ for future use:

    Tony Kuhlman (Committee chair):    a...@msu.edu or a...@msu.bitnet

    Diane Palme (NED "dive babe"):     p...@am1.icgmfg.mke.ab.com
    Hugh Huntzinger (NED Lurker):      huntz...@pica.army.mil
    Reef Fish Bob (NED Historian):     R...@clemson.clemson.edu

in Tony's version 1.10, and implicitly claiming credit for EVERYTHING
in Hugh's NED FAQ, without ANY mentiono of "Bob Ling" which he now so
eagerly put in EVERYONE of my post, in his attempt to smear me.   LOL
LOL

MORE Historical FACToid:

Hugh then declared himself "Hugh INED) Huntzinger" as if he was the
person
behind both the formation of NED and the NED FAQ, when he had neither
the
NED humor/spirit, nor honesty to be even considered a NED today, while
most of US NEDs were driven away by Hugh (by his dictator pal Nick
Simicich to another LIST), and Hugh is the only surviving NED in
Scuba-L
since Nick's massacre trying to CENSOR me on that LIST (plotted by
Hugh while I was in Cozumel), and resulted in kicking Bjorn, Mika,
Mike Wallace out instead  ROTFLMAO  and EVERYONE who was worth
anything in any scuba discussion in Scuba-L to a new list Scuba-SE.

Scuba-L had been moribund for sometimes, while Hugh was about the only
poster, generating a few posts a week instead of nearly 100 posts a DAY

during the NED and more scuba-friendly days.

Hugh later declared a PERMANENT GRUDGE on Bob Ling, because Bob
revealed (AFTER Hugh had cleared the matter with his superiors) that
Hugh had been blackmailed by one of Cochran's shills, Ralph Riggs,
at the time Hugh wasn't supposed to be posting on his job.

Grudge Holding Hugh is the ONLY REMAINING IDIOT who insists referring
to the Reef Fish as Bob Ling, even though google could find only TWO
threads of Bob's postings (both in 1995) that had the posting name
"Bob Ling" and the posting name "Reef Fish" retrieves ALL of Bob's
google-retrievable postings since 1992, and is the ONLY Reef Fish in
the history of usenet since 1981) wrote:

Again, notice the ABSENCE of mention of Bob Ling in Hugh's NED FAQ.

On 4/14/2005 Hugh posted in rec.scuba,

There is only ONE Reef Fish in all usenet posts since 1981, IDIOT Hugh.

The only OTHER IDIOT who always brought out Bob Ling in his derogatory
posts was <remamber him?> the Aldora IDIOT Ron Lee!!

Why?

I'll tell you why.

Because Grudge Holding tries in every way and every opportunity to
tarnish Bob's name in his PROFESSION, which is entirely unrelated
to Bob's SCUBA postings in scuba ngs.

Hugh went so far as digging up a student newspaper article about
Bob, thinking that it would put Bob in a bad light because it
mentioned how Bob blasted the students in their "rate the professors".

This was in 2004, NEARLY TEN YEARS after the news article appeared and
FOUR YEARS after I retired!

Hugh certainly went a Loooooonnnnnng way to try to dig up what he
thought was DIRT to smear Reef Fish Bob in his profession.

hh> http://hubcap.clemson.edu/Tige­­r/news/art01ns,99,01,15.html

RF>  Glad you found it.  What has THAT got to do with my SCUBA
RF>  postings?

RF> That article was written by a student in the weekly Newspaper back
RF> in the late 1990s.   The writer chose to interview me because I was

RF> the most vocal of all professors against such "student abuse" and I

RF> could speak out without any fear of any of the administrators.
RF>
RF> The report was an ACCURATE, FAIR,and INFORMATIVE one!!!!
RF>
RF> Hugh, your unethical and gratuitous act of digging up something you

RF> THOUGHT was dirt that would embarrasse me (in view of your self-
RF> admitted GRUDGE against me) in a matter that is entirely
RF> irrelevant to my rec.scuba postings, turned out to be my BEST
RF> REBUTTAL -- which I knew was there, but didn't bother to give
RF> details because they were as inappropriate as Hugh and Forest
RF> bring it up in the first place.

In that article, I had EVIDENCE that the "student ratings" was rigged
in my case, because the person who ran the webpage was caught by me
when he THREW OUT an anon-submitted rating (by one of my students)
that was very favorable about my teaching.  The FACT was stated in
the newspaper article, and when student who was caught red handed had
"no comment" according to the article.  No wonder, both he and the
sponsoring society were glad that they were not SUED!  When Hugh
asked for the actual ratings (which they had removed), they told
Hugh that's why those fraudulent "student" ratings were no longer
there!

What LENGTH wouldn't Hugh go to try to SMEAR me in my profession,
of which he knows NOTHING!

RF>  Thanks Hugh, for shooting your own foot, and EXPOSED yourself
RF>  once more, for being a SUPREME HYPOCRITE.

FACT:

If you do a advanced google search on author "Bob Ling", you'll find
NINE hits -- the first of which by "homo Bob Ling"  :-)  obviously
posted by the Dickhead in rec.travel.cruises.

Of the OTHER Bob Lings, only the two threads in rec.scuba were by
THIS Bob.

FACT:

If you do the same advanced groups search using only "reef fish" as the

author, you'll find 6200 THREADS, in various ngs, dating back to 1992
(when the name Reef Fish was created just to separate my PROFESSIONAL
email from my SCUBA email).  AFAIK, nobody else, since 1981, had used
"Reef Fish" as their posting "author" name.

FACT:

============ begin excerpt from a 2003 post
Reef Fish   Feb 10 2003, 11:48 am
Newsgroups: rec.scuba
Subject: Bob Ling (Reef Fish) and Others on Bob Ling

I had told Ron Lee if he wanted others to know how many times
he had been called an IDIOT, all he had to do was to go to
http://groups.google.com and search for keywords,

      "Aldora IDIOT Ron Lee"       to get 137 hits.
   or "IDIOT Ron Lee"              to get 3020 hits.

Ron Lee created a new derogatory subject about "Bob Ling"
because he is an IDIOT, and thinks no one knows that the
"Reef Fish" is Bob Ling, and that Bob Ling is trying to hide
his true name or identity.

***** NOTE ADDED 4/14/2005   Hugh Huntzinger is now the reigning
IDIOT who thinks I am trying to hide my identity.   ************

A Google search using ONLY the keywords "Bob Ling" turned up
11,200 hits!  :-)

As I had mentioned before, most of those are NOT this Bob Ling.
In fact, it's a good bet anyone posting by the name "Bob Ling"
is NOT this Bob Ling, and the one using the posting name
"Reef Fish" IS teh scuba-posting Bob Ling.

So, IDIOT Ron Lee is not only ignorant about using the archives,
he was directing his ad-hominem attack (on the person, without
stating the SUBSTANCE of what was written) to the WRONG
Bob Lings of the world.

This Bob Ling is the one-and-only author known as "reef fish",
and whose Reef Fish (Large Nassau Grouper) came from the old
email address id, RFLNG, from which the acronym existed before
the Reef Fish name was created in 1992.

Mike Cochran and Carl Heinzl (1995) on Bob Ling
http://groups.google.com/group­­s?selm=CGH.95Feb3123...@baden.­­ai.mit.edu

Bob Ling on Ralph Riggs (the Cochran shill)
http://groups.google.com/    Advanced search with
Message ID = <SCUBA-L%96021515535...@BROWNV­­M.BROWN.EDU>

Those are just a few of the posts about Bob Ling that can
readily be retrieved via Google.

You can excavate your own DIRT, without the help from any
IDIOT, and certainly not from IDIOT Ron Lee. <OR Hugh Huntzinger>

-- Bob.  (aka Bob Ling (Reef Fish), or "reef fish", or Feesh)

=========================  end except of 2003 post

FACT:   Bob Ling is NOT trying to hide his identity

========================= begin excerpt of 1998 post on Ron Lee

Chum, I've started using the RFLNG (Reef Fish Large Nassau Grouper)
account for my SCUBA postings and correspondence since 1992.  I have
posted REASONS for doing so, to separate my SCUBA activities from
my other professional ones.   It is NOT for hiding my identity as
your innuendo clearly suggested.

EVERYONE who has been around the net about SCUBA for any amount of
time knows that I am Bob Ling, with or without your use of the
derogatory SUBJECT when you post.

If you (or anybody else) bother to use DejaNews and do the search
for R...@clemson.edu, you'll find THOUSANDS of postings there; and
if do an "author search" you'll find also THOUSANDS of MY postings,
all except ONE (in rec.humor recently) are SCUBA related.

Among these postings, anyone can find out plenty of information
about Bob Ling, most of which are IRRELEVANT to what I have to
say or post in SCUBA (my Ph.D. degree from Yale university, e.g.),
or my Professorship, including Visiting Full Professorships at
in Harvard, MIT, and the University of Chicago, as well as exact
volume and page of my citations in Who's Who in the World.

These are ALL in the PUBLIC postings.   I don't FLAUNT them.
You would have to look hard to FIND them.

Everything I post in scuba newsgroups and lists stand on its OWN
merit, in SUBSTANCE.   NOT on what my NAME is.

      *****    What's your point, Ron Lee?   *****
========================  end excerpt =========================
               What's YOUR point, Hugh Huntzinger,
               the apparent successor to IDIOT Ron Lee?

RF> Let me repeat it for YOU and those who have not been around SCUBA
RF> newsgroups and lists long enough to know who the Reef Fish or
RF> Bob the Feesh is:
RF>
RF>
RF>
RF>      EVERYTHING I post in scuba newsgroups and lists
RF>      stand on its OWN merit, not what my real or
RF>      professional NAME is.
RF>
RF>
RF> When I make a posting in which my credential IS important for the
RF> reader to know (which is rare), and you can ALSO find it a dozen
RF> times or so (in DejaNews) among the thousands of scuba postings
RF> there, that I am also an Elected Fellow of the American Statistical

RF> Association -- and I cite that ONLY when I make postings pertinent
RF> to technical matters in statistics to let readers know that I do
RF> know something about THAT subject matter.

Hugh hh, the plagiarizer who once called himself Hugh (NED) Huntzinger,

Why don't you save this post (put it on you web if you wish <BWG> the
next time you try to use the name Bob Ling to smear me in my
profession?

-- Bob.   aka Feeesh, Feeeesh, Reef Fish, Reeeeeeeeesh, and many other

         <tm> names, and don't mind being called Reef, Reefy, Mr. Fish

         or other variants to my posting name of "Reef Fish", but
         despise posters like Hugh Huntzinger who try to use my
         NON-posting name to SMEAR me and my profession.

P.S.  Dysfuntional Nutcase Alan, you can get your MS word and count the

     number of words in this post now.   I know it would take you a
     life time to read that much.  :-)