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Douglas W. \ - 25 Mar 2005 20:38 GMT Man Charged With Stealing Gun in Bid to 'Rescue Schiavo'
SEMINOLE, Fla. (March 25) - A man was arrested after trying to steal a weapon from a gun shop so he could ''take some action and rescue Terri Schiavo,'' authorities said.
Michael W. Mitchell, of Rockford, Ill., entered Randall's Firearms Inc. in Seminole just before 6 p.m. Thursday with a box cutter and tried to steal a gun, said Marianne Pasha, a spokeswoman for the Pinellas County Sheriff's Office.
Mitchell, 50, told deputies he wanted to ''take some action and rescue Terri Schiavo'' after he visited the Pinellas Park hospice where she lives, Pasha said.
The feeding tube that has kept Schiavo alive for more than a decade was removed March 18 over objections from her parents. Schiavo's husband has said his wife would not want to be kept alive artificially.
Doctors have said she would probably die within a week or two of the tube being pulled.
Randy McKenzie, the owner of Randall's Firearms, said Mitchell pulled out the box cutter and broke the glass on a couple of display cases.
''He told me if I wasn't on Terri's side then I wasn't on God's side, either,'' McKenzie told The Associated Press.
McKenzie said he then pointed his own gun at Mitchell and ordered him to lie on the ground. But Mitchell fled out the store's back door before police arrived, he said.
Mitchell was later arrested in a parking lot and was scheduled to appear in court Friday. He was being held on $125,000 bond on charges of attempted armed robbery, aggravated assault and criminal mischief, officials said.
It was not known if he had a lawyer.
Seminole is about 5 miles west of Pinellas Park.
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Grumman-581 - 25 Mar 2005 21:43 GMT "Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick" wrote in message news:1148q5k67p5ec3c@news.supernews.com... <snip>
> It was not known if he had a lawyer. Or a brain....
One should not take a knife to a gun fight...
Dillon Pyron - 28 Mar 2005 18:09 GMT >"Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick" wrote in message >news:1148q5k67p5ec3c@news.supernews.com... [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > >One should not take a knife to a gun fight... He's lucky to have been able to run away.
There's the story of the guy who pulled a gun in a gun store. The patrons of the store drew theirs and "thus ends the life of ..."
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Alan Street - 28 Mar 2005 18:25 GMT > >"Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick" wrote in message > >news:1148q5k67p5ec3c@news.supernews.com... [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > There's the story of the guy who pulled a gun in a gun store. The > patrons of the store drew theirs and "thus ends the life of ..." http://www.snopes.com/crime/dumdum/gunshop.asp
Crownfield - 28 Mar 2005 21:25 GMT > >"Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick" wrote in message > >news:1148q5k67p5ec3c@news.supernews.com... [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > There's the story of the guy who pulled a gun in a gun store. The > patrons of the store drew theirs and "thus ends the life of ..." deandrea's guncase in bridgeport CT. friday evening. the store is filled with off duty officers, browsing. one of his friends comes through the door, and kidding, said "it's a stickup!"
the boss quickly shouts, over the sound of guns being drawn and cocked, shout "it's ok, he's a friend."
> -- > dillon > > "When the French are against it, you know we can't > be far wrong." - Adm. Bobbie Ray Inman Grumman-581 - 29 Mar 2005 08:03 GMT > There's the story of the guy who pulled a gun in a gun store. The > patrons of the store drew theirs and "thus ends the life of ..." There was a case of that happening in Houston a few years back... Not only were each of the clerks carrying a weapon on their side at the time, but there were some LEOs in there at the time... Don't remember if they were uniformed or not... Something like 30-40 rounds are fired and the guy gets hit less than 10 times... From what I understand, he didn't die -- Darwin was asleep on the job again...
Crownfield - 30 Mar 2005 01:33 GMT > > There's the story of the guy who pulled a gun in a gun store. The > > patrons of the store drew theirs and "thus ends the life of ..." [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > uniformed or not... Something like 30-40 rounds are fired and the guy gets > hit less than 10 times... seems like shooting to distract, rather than to hit.
one good thing about single shot weapons: each shot was important to the shooter.
no spray and hope.
> From what I understand, he didn't die -- Darwin > was asleep on the job again... Grumman-581 - 30 Mar 2005 03:17 GMT > one good thing about single shot weapons: > each shot was important to the shooter. Yeah, I've probably killed many more ducks with the single-shot .410 shotgun that I had as a kid than with the double-barrel and autoloaders that I had later on... Maybe it was because it had a better sight, but it's quite possible it was because I knew I only had one chance to get it right...
Douglas W. \ - 30 Mar 2005 03:25 GMT > > one good thing about single shot weapons: > > each shot was important to the shooter. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > later on... Maybe it was because it had a better sight, but it's quite > possible it was because I knew I only had one chance to get it right... Last I knew, and this is old info, the two record largest land animals in North America were killed with a Thompson Contender single shot pistol.
A moose, which you could kill with a brick, and a Kodiak Bear.
I'd like to meet the guy that walked up to a Kodiak Bear with a single shot pistol.
Grumman-581 - 30 Mar 2005 03:53 GMT "Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick" wrote in message news:114k3kbghjlnl16@news.supernews.com...
> A moose, which you could kill with a brick I've never lived in an area where there were any moose, so why do you say that? Do they just stand there while you walk up to them?
> and a Kodiak Bear. At least with wild boars, you have the knowledge that they can't climb trees... That's not necessarily true with bears...
Douglas W. \ - 30 Mar 2005 05:21 GMT > "Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick" wrote in message > news:114k3kbghjlnl16@news.supernews.com... > > A moose, which you could kill with a brick > > I've never lived in an area where there were any moose, so why do you say > that? Do they just stand there while you walk up to them? They have the predator awareness and survival instincts of a dairy cow.
That said, I wouldn't want to be around one when it finally got mad.
> > and a Kodiak Bear. > > At least with wild boars, you have the knowledge that they can't climb > trees... That's not necessarily true with bears... I don't think that tree climbing matters much.
IIRC, it was 14 ft tall on it's hind legs and weighed 3/4 of a ton.
Dillon Pyron - 30 Mar 2005 19:52 GMT >> "Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick" wrote in message >> news:114k3kbghjlnl16@news.supernews.com... [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > IIRC, it was 14 ft tall on it's hind legs and weighed 3/4 of a ton. My father had a great picture from his time on Addick. There's a guy at the top of a raise, with a Kodiak standing in front of him and the guy aiming a rifle at it. Two guys are standing at the bottom of the hill and somebody (Dad?) put a little ballon in that says "Don't shoot him, you'll only piss him off"
My brother has it. I may liberate it next time I'm in Tyler.
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chilly - 30 Mar 2005 05:43 GMT > "Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick" wrote in message > news:114k3kbghjlnl16@news.supernews.com... > > A moose, which you could kill with a brick > > I've never lived in an area where there were any moose, so why do you say > that? Do they just stand there while you walk up to them? They can do, but it's much wiser that you don't approach them at all. Very dangerous animals, all in all.
(snip)
Douglas W. \ - 30 Mar 2005 12:54 GMT > > "Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick" wrote in message > > news:114k3kbghjlnl16@news.supernews.com... [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > They can do, but it's much wiser that you don't approach them at all. Very > dangerous animals, all in all. Not to me.
Dillon Pyron - 30 Mar 2005 19:53 GMT >> "Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick" wrote in message >> news:114k3kbghjlnl16@news.supernews.com... [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > >(snip) "A moose bit my sister once"
(let the Python break loose)
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Dillon Pyron - 30 Mar 2005 19:50 GMT >> > one good thing about single shot weapons: >> > each shot was important to the shooter. [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > I'd like to meet the guy that walked up to a Kodiak Bear with a single >shot pistol. It's easy. You stick the barrel in your mouth and pull the trigger. Problem over.
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Douglas W. \ - 30 Mar 2005 20:28 GMT > >> Yeah, I've probably killed many more ducks with the single-shot .410 > >shotgun [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > It's easy. You stick the barrel in your mouth and pull the trigger. > Problem over. :-)
Dillon Pyron - 30 Mar 2005 19:48 GMT >> > There's the story of the guy who pulled a gun in a gun store. The >> > patrons of the store drew theirs and "thus ends the life of ..." [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > >seems like shooting to distract, rather than to hit. Sounds more like typical cop shooting.
Something 12 years ago, Dallas cops followed a guy into Carrolton. He showed what "looked like" a weapon (wallet) and the two cops opened up. Fired 32 rounds from their Smiths, the only injury was from broken glass.
>one good thing about single shot weapons: >each shot was important to the shooter. Lazurus Long (Rober Heinlein) "Always get off the first shot. If you don't hit him, you'll distract him"
>no spray and hope. Speaking of "spray and pray", is the Col still with us. I haven't read any gun rags in several years. They seemed to recycle stories about every 13 months and never found any fault with the guns they tested. AR hasn't had any news on Cooper.
>> From what I understand, he didn't die -- Darwin >> was asleep on the job again...
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Scott - 30 Mar 2005 20:45 GMT > Speaking of "spray and pray", is the Col still with us. I haven't > read any gun rags in several years. They seemed to recycle stories > about every 13 months and never found any fault with the guns they > tested. AR hasn't had any news on Cooper. Chairman Jeff is still alive and mean as ever.
http://www.dvc.org.uk/~johnny/jeff/
Crownfield - 30 Mar 2005 20:57 GMT > >> > There's the story of the guy who pulled a gun in a gun store. The > >> > patrons of the store drew theirs and "thus ends the life of ..." [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > Lazurus Long (Rober Heinlein) it has been too long since I read that.
> "Always get off the first shot. If you > don't hit him, you'll distract him" [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > Women should be obscene and not absurd. Al Wells - 25 Mar 2005 21:54 GMT > Michael W. Mitchell, of Rockford, Ill., entered Randall's Firearms Inc. in > Seminole just before 6 p.m. Thursday with a box cutter and tried to steal a > gun, said Marianne Pasha, a spokeswoman for the Pinellas County Sheriff's > Office. LOL - can't imagine why that didn't work
Don - 25 Mar 2005 22:08 GMT >> Michael W. Mitchell, of Rockford, Ill., entered Randall's Firearms Inc. >> in [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > LOL - can't imagine why that didn't work Y not? 19 cavemen with box cutters turned our entire fuckin country inside out.
Al Wells - 25 Mar 2005 22:29 GMT > Y not? 19 cavemen with box cutters turned our entire fuckin country inside > out. right - perhaps if pilots had been allowed to carry firearms then or there was a possibilty of armed marshalls, that would not have even been attempted. a gun shop and an airplane of 4 years ago are completely different animals.
Grumman-581 - 25 Mar 2005 22:43 GMT > Y not? 19 cavemen with box cutters turned our entire fuckin country inside > out. That was because they were on a plane of NYers... This happened in Florida... They're not Texans, but they'll do in a pinch...
Lee Bell - 25 Mar 2005 22:55 GMT > That was because they were on a plane of NYers... This happened in > Florida... They're not Texans, but they'll do in a pinch... No pinching allowed. We're meaner, badder and more evil than you Texans ever thought of being. Even our Indians are undefeated.
Lee
Grumman-581 - 26 Mar 2005 06:07 GMT > Even our Indians are undefeated. That probably says more about your gators than anything else... <snicker>
Lee Bell - 25 Mar 2005 22:47 GMT >> LOL - can't imagine why that didn't work > > Y not? 19 cavemen with box cutters turned our entire fuckin country inside > out. They weren't in a gun shop. They were on an airplane, one of the few places they are almost certain not to see anybody with a gun.
Lee
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