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Birdbrain13 - 18 Mar 2005 23:55 GMT
OK guys,
I am a certified diver from way back (1983)and just quit diving when
other hobbies cut into time and disposable income.  (you think diving
is expensive -  you ought to try flying airplanes or building and
driving racecars )

Anyway I've been getting the urge to come back to diving for several
reasons so I've been on the lookout for equipment for a few years.

My involvement will be a casual activity -  diving maybe 5 - 10
weekends per year  shallow - above about 75 feet-  so I'm looking for
good dependable equipment -  and really don't think I want to spend
alot of money for all of the latest bells and wistles.

So the other day I ran across a deal I couldn't resist (in the wantadds
-  heart attack and family issues) so heres what I got:

3- 80 cf aluminum tanks (how do I tell the alloy?)  I just got them
back from pressure testing and all were fine.  The valve on top is
stamped Dacor -  but I just see a bunch of stamped numbers on the tank.

1 seapro BC (why don't they put model numbers on this stuff?)  It fills
front and side pockets not the back  (black with blue trim)

1 Oceanic octopus with 2 Oceanic Alpha Regulators and a PSI, Depth and
compass Instrument panel.

Along with that I got a bunch of throwin stuff -  Cressi fins mask
snorkel, knife, 35 mm cam with h20 proof housing (cheap camera but it
works pretty well -  I use it to take picture of upside down Kayakers.
A full wetsuit that doesn't fit, shot weightbelt, boots hood and gloves
nice backpack gear bag, etc.

So what did I get -  quality wise is this stuff OK?  I paid 200 bucks
for all the stuff so I figure I couldn't have been screwed that bad -
right?

Carl "just curious" Johansson
Bryan Heit - 19 Mar 2005 00:14 GMT
I cannot comment on your equipment directly (I'm sure someone will), but
if you get your local dive shop to service your regs (which you should
be doing every year anyways) they'll be able to tell you if the regs are
good and fix any problems you may have.  As for the BCD and whatnot, be
sure to test them out in a safe location (pool, or protected location
outdoors) before you do anything serious.  Once again, if you have any
doubts there should be someone at your local dive shop who can take a
look at the gear and tell you what kind of shape it's in.

Considering that you have 3 tanks which passed hydro, your $200 has
already done you well. Anything else is gravy. . .

Bryan
Chris Guynn - 21 Mar 2005 17:27 GMT
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> 1 Oceanic octopus with 2 Oceanic Alpha Regulators and a PSI, Depth and
> compass Instrument panel.

I use the Oceanic Alpha regs and I'm pretty happy.  My experience is rather
limited though.  If I were to do it again, I'd probably go with something
else, but they're easily good enough for a casual diver.

> Along with that I got a bunch of throwin stuff -  Cressi fins mask
> snorkel, knife, 35 mm cam with h20 proof housing (cheap camera but it
> works pretty well -  I use it to take picture of upside down Kayakers.
> A full wetsuit that doesn't fit, shot weightbelt, boots hood and gloves
>  nice backpack gear bag, etc.

Keep the stuff that fits, dump or ebay the stuff that doesn't.

Some would say that the only useful purpose of a snorkel is as a wall
decoration (nail it to the wall), but I like to keep mine in my dive bag.
That way, if I'm not up to diving for whatever reason, I can still go
snorkeling.
Birdbrain13 - 22 Mar 2005 18:07 GMT
> Some would say that the only useful purpose of a snorkel is as a wall
> decoration (nail it to the wall), but I like to keep mine in my dive bag.
> That way, if I'm not up to diving for whatever reason, I can still go
> snorkeling.

Thanks for the input chris -  as for the snorkel -  I guess I'm old
school -  I like to have it along for the ride -  I use it to save air
whenever I'm on the surface.  I think alot of divers haven't spent much
time snorkelling so they don't appreciate some of the finer points of
using it -
Lee Bell - 22 Mar 2005 18:18 GMT
>> Some would say that the only useful purpose of a snorkel is as a wall
>> decoration (nail it to the wall), but I like to keep mine in my dive
>> bag. That way, if I'm not up to diving for whatever reason, I can still
>> go
>> snorkeling.

> Thanks for the input chris -  as for the snorkel -  I guess I'm old
> school -  I like to have it along for the ride -  I use it to save air
> whenever I'm on the surface.  I think alot of divers haven't spent much
> time snorkelling so they don't appreciate some of the finer points of
> using it -

I used to do the same.  While you don't hear it said very often, a lot of
the resistance to carrying a snorkel comes from the DIR camp.  It's obvious
that a snorkel attached to the mask is more of a hazard than a benefit to
those that dive Florida's sink holes and caves.  What's not so obvious is
that it also interferes with deploying the long hose.  Those that maintain
that DIR is the right configuration for all diving, must necessarily also
maintain that a snorkel is not.

Since I dive the long hose, I don't carry a snorkel on my mask any more.
Since my setup has no pockets, I don't carry it there either.  I tried
attaching it to various places without success.  Now, I just leave it in my
dive bag.

Lee
Chris Guynn - 22 Mar 2005 18:24 GMT
> > Some would say that the only useful purpose of a snorkel is as a wall
> > decoration (nail it to the wall), but I like to keep mine in my dive
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> time snorkelling so they don't appreciate some of the finer points of
> using it -

When I'm on the surface (before or after a dive), I just turn my head to the
side and breathe... I guess it comes from being a swimmer in a past life.  I
do enjoy snorkeling though.
Troy S - 22 Mar 2005 19:31 GMT
I just about stopped using my snorkel on the last dive trip after I
started getting annoyed with it in general, none of the dive guides
seem to use them.  But then I ended up on a longer swim back to the
boat where it was nice to have.  If I find one of the fold up models
with a quick/easy clip for the mask strap, I'll be switching.  I always
think of what I wouldn't want to be without in open water w/o a boat in
terms of equipment I have on me.

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Adam Helberg - 23 Mar 2005 00:18 GMT
> OK guys,
> I am a certified diver from way back (1983)and just quit diving when
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>
> Carl "just curious" Johansson

What's the point of asking for advice after you make your purchase? The normal person
asks before.
Douglas W. \ - 23 Mar 2005 01:16 GMT
> > Carl "just curious" Johansson
>
> What's the point of asking for advice after you make your purchase? The normal person
> asks before.

 How would you know what a "normal" person does?

 I was obviously a good deal, maybe he just wanted to know how good.

--

 Why do activists target fur instead of leather?

 Because it's a lot easier to harass wealthy female celebrities than biker
gangs.

 Popeye
Adam Helberg - 27 Mar 2005 02:41 GMT
>> > Carl "just curious" Johansson
>>
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>
>  I was obviously a good deal, maybe he just wanted to know how good.

I assume I'm normal, and I ask for advice before making decisions not after.

Adam
Dillon Pyron - 28 Mar 2005 05:52 GMT
>>> > Carl "just curious" Johansson
>>>
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>
>Adam

Adam, if you're posting here, you're not normal (hmmm).  But even I
ask questions first, plonk down the credit card later.

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Birdbrain13 - 28 Mar 2005 18:21 GMT
Adam Helberg asked:
What's the point of asking for advice after you make your purchase? The
normal person asks before.

Well the stuff was only foir sale for about 45 minutes.  I found it in
the new listings of the newspaper and I read the paper early.  I
completed the deal by 8:20 am -  and had 3 seperate guys waiting for me
to make my decision.  If I would have taken the time to research the
issue -  the gear would have been long gone -  so it was a calculated
risk on my part -  I figurewd if it had attracted that much attention
is so little time -  I could always resell it.

I just wanted to know the quality and serviceability of what I had
bought -  while a dive shop is a good source of info -  they also have
an outside interest (selling you new stuff)

Thanks for the input!
Chris Guynn - 28 Mar 2005 20:40 GMT
> Adam Helberg asked:
> What's the point of asking for advice after you make your purchase? The
> normal person asks before.

As far as I could tell, he wasn't really asking for advice.  It was more of
a look what I got for next to nothing...

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