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Hey Jammer, I'm still waiting for you to take me to Florida like you promised . . .

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chilly - 18 Mar 2005 11:26 GMT
Nine-foot alligator kills Florida man
Forearm found in stomachThe Associated Press

Updated: 12:07 a.m. ET March 16, 2005LAKELAND, Fla. - A man found dead in a
pond was the victim of a nearly nine-foot alligator that was captured and
killed, the medical examiner's office said Tuesday.

Officials did not know what Don Owen, 56, a truck driver from Bartow, was
doing at the pond about a dozen miles from his home. He had been missing
since Wednesday when he was seen at a convenience store.

On Saturday his remains were found by several men fishing in Six Pound Pond.
An autopsy determined he had been killed by the eight-foot, nine-inch
alligator, the Florida Fish and Wildlife Conservation Commission said.

Trappers caught the alligator Monday. Owen's forearm was found in its
stomach.

Residents said they had fed the alligator, which is illegal and dangerous,
said Gary Morse, spokesman for the wildlife commission.

Alligators normally flee from humans unless threatened or cornered, but
alligators that have been fed by humans begin to look at them as a food
source, he noted.

Since 1948, 330 alligator attacks have been documented by the commission.
Sixteen have been fatal, including Owen's.
Jammer Six - 18 Mar 2005 12:15 GMT
> He had been missing since Wednesday when he was seen at a convenience
> store.

Yeah, let's get right on that, babe.

If a guy wanders out into the Florida night, and gets f.cking eaten
alive by an alligator or a crocodile, what would that look like, if no
one knew he was gone?

It would look like a missing person, that's what it would look like.

Are there any unsolved missing person cases in Florida?

Yeah. That's what I thought.

[shudder]

Wouldn't you rather make a nice coldwater dive and see some nice, calm
octopie, honey?

I mean, since it's the only way WE'RE going to dive together...

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"We're going to rush the hijackers."
    -Jeremy Glick, aboard United Airlines flight 93, September 11, 2001

chilly - 18 Mar 2005 12:29 GMT
> ? He had been missing since Wednesday when he was seen at a convenience
> ? store.
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> alive by an alligator or a crocodile, what would that look like, if no
> one knew he was gone?

Actually, I was kinda wondering where Grumann was.  You know . .
.convenience store . . .swamps . . . alligators.  Sounds more than
coincidental, don'tcha think?

> It would look like a missing person, that's what it would look like.

Until they found parts of him floating around.

> Are there any unsolved missing person cases in Florida?

There's at least one solved.

Poor Owens, up to his armpit in it.

> Yeah. That's what I thought.
>
> [shudder]
>
> Wouldn't you rather make a nice coldwater dive and see some nice, calm
> octopie, honey?

Hmm, I've never had a "nice" coldwater dive.  I've had calamarie.

Have you ever seen an octo turn turquoise at night?

> I mean, since it's the only way WE'RE going to dive together...

:^)
Jammer Six - 19 Mar 2005 00:44 GMT
> Have you ever seen an octo turn turquoise at night?

Not turquoise. Colors, but not that color.

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"We're going to rush the hijackers."
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Crownfield - 19 Mar 2005 01:28 GMT
> > Have you ever seen an octo turn turquoise at night?

emerald green, feeding.

> Not turquoise. Colors, but not that color.
>
> --
> "We're going to rush the hijackers."
>      -Jeremy Glick, aboard United Airlines flight 93, September 11, 2001
chilly - 18 Mar 2005 12:57 GMT
> ? He had been missing since Wednesday when he was seen at a convenience
> ? store.
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> alive by an alligator or a crocodile, what would that look like, if no
> one knew he was gone?

If an alligator grinds bones in the swamp, and there is no one there to hear
it,
does it make a sound?
Jammer Six - 19 Mar 2005 00:45 GMT
> If an alligator grinds bones in the swamp, and there is no one there
> to hear it, does it make a sound?

I think the victim would always hear them, if he/she were still alive.

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"We're going to rush the hijackers."
    -Jeremy Glick, aboard United Airlines flight 93, September 11, 2001

JOF - 19 Mar 2005 02:58 GMT
>> If an alligator grinds bones in the swamp, and there is no one there
>> to hear it, does it make a sound?
>
>I think the victim would always hear them, if he/she were still alive.

Not the sound of the skull crushing.

JF
Crownfield - 20 Mar 2005 03:10 GMT
> >> If an alligator grinds bones in the swamp, and there is no one there
> >> to hear it, does it make a sound?
> >
> >I think the victim would always hear them, if he/she were still alive.
>
> Not the sound of the skull crushing.

two reports from survivors of large cat attacks:

"I will never forget the sound
of the fangs scraping along my skull..."

> JF
JOF - 20 Mar 2005 03:17 GMT
>> >> If an alligator grinds bones in the swamp, and there is no one there
>> >> to hear it, does it make a sound?
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>"I will never forget the sound
>of the fangs scraping along my skull..."

Yuck.

JF
Crownfield - 20 Mar 2005 06:46 GMT
> >> >> If an alligator grinds bones in the swamp, and there is no one there
> >> >> to hear it, does it make a sound?
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>
> Yuck.

tippi...

> JF
Scott - 21 Mar 2005 14:35 GMT
> Yeah. That's what I thought.
>
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> I mean, since it's the only way WE'RE going to dive together...

Maybe a nice trip to dive the Great Barrier Reef

http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/asiapcf/03/20/australia.shark.ap/index.html
 
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