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Lou Vallone - 13 Mar 2005 18:01 GMT A good argument for having DAN insurance and not being to complacent around barracuda:
http://www.thepittsburghchannel.com/news/4269866/detail.html
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JOF - 13 Mar 2005 19:16 GMT >A good argument for having DAN insurance and not being to complacent around barracuda: > >http://www.thepittsburghchannel.com/news/4269866/detail.html Man, you had to post that? I like 'cudas. Now you're spoiling it. 8)
That's rough for the kid though, and his folks. It sounds like he was surface swimming, not diving. I wonder if there's more or less likelihood of this happening underwater. I suppose it's tough to do psychological profiles on barracudas though. Are there documented cases of 'cudas hitting divers?
I'm not uncomfortable around barracudas when I'm diving, and I've been very close to some good-sized ones, as have most of us here. How does one take steps to be safe when they're around? With the speed they can generate I doubt I could react quickly enough to totally ward off the first hit, even if I saw it coming, and it's tough to spend all one's time on a dive keeping an eye on all the barracuda nearby.
I know from experience there's no shortage of them in Cancun waters, although the ones I see there are nowhere near the size of the guys I see in Florida. I also saw big'uns in GC schooling with Tarpon. I'm sure Cancun has it's share of big guys but I don't know where they hang out and I've dived pretty well all the popular sites there.
JF
Adam Helberg - 14 Mar 2005 03:56 GMT >>A good argument for having DAN insurance and not being to complacent around >>barracuda: [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > > JF I may be wrong but I think you're more likely to be attacked when snorkeling or swimming than scuba diving. A large predator may mistake you for its prey while swimming but does not recognize a diver as anything edible.
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dazed and confuzzed - 14 Mar 2005 04:10 GMT >>>A good argument for having DAN insurance and not being to complacent around >>>barracuda: [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > > Adam So you think that barracuda eat seals?? Or are you confusing them with Sharks?
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Adam Helberg - 14 Mar 2005 05:59 GMT >>>>A good argument for having DAN insurance and not being to complacent around >>>>barracuda: [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] >> Adam > So you think that barracuda eat seals?? Or are you confusing them with Sharks? Where did you get the "seals" bit? Or are you confusing this word with "prey"?
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Adam Helberg - 14 Mar 2005 06:27 GMT I did a google on barracuda attacks. They are extremely rare and there is no mention of any difference between divers and swimmers. In some cases the barracuda was acting in self defense against a spear fisherman, in some it competes for a fish with the human, and in others there is no known reason. A common theory is that shiny objects are mistaken by the barracuda for silvery fish it preys on.
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chilly - 14 Mar 2005 08:48 GMT > I may be wrong but I think you're more likely to be attacked when snorkeling or > swimming than scuba diving. A large predator may mistake you for its prey while > swimming but does not recognize a diver as anything edible. I've had a barracuda attack my fin. He hung on and we had a little struggle. In the end, the 'cuda let go and swam away.
My dive buddies all flooded their masks laughing. Oddly enough, it wasn't frightening just weird.
Karl Denninger - 18 Mar 2005 04:31 GMT >> I may be wrong but I think you're more likely to be attacked when >snorkeling or [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >My dive buddies all flooded their masks laughing. Oddly enough, it wasn't >frightening just weird. I've shot aggressive ones before (with a speargun)
Every once in a while I get one that's too aggressive for my taste. It is my policy to give such fish a headache.
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Popeye - 14 Mar 2005 04:25 GMT > >A good argument for having DAN insurance and not being to complacent around barracuda: > > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > very close to some good-sized ones, as have most of us here. How does > one take steps to be safe when they're around? Ignore them! ;-)
It's funny how different threats bring different perceptions, regardless of how long the odds are. <grin>
> With the speed they can > generate I doubt I could react quickly enough to totally ward off the [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > JF JOF - 14 Mar 2005 14:23 GMT >> I'm not uncomfortable around barracudas when I'm diving, and I've >been >> very close to some good-sized ones, as have most of us here. How does >> one take steps to be safe when they're around? > > Ignore them! ;-) Aha! I can do that.
> It's funny how different threats bring different perceptions, >regardless of how long the odds are. <grin> I'm gonna start watching out for barracudas with little bitty fanny packs though.
JF
Lee Bell - 14 Mar 2005 18:44 GMT >>> I'm not uncomfortable around barracudas when I'm diving, and I've >>>been very close to some good-sized ones, as have most of us here. How [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Aha! I can do that. Hmmm, I was going to suggest a spear gun . . . but guess not. 8^)
You might as well ignore them. If they decide to strike, there isn't a damned thing you can do about it, not to mention that for every one you see, there's proabably a half dozen that you didn't see, that saw you.
>> It's funny how different threats bring different perceptions, >>regardless of how long the odds are. <grin> > > I'm gonna start watching out for barracudas with little bitty fanny > packs though. Really, just ignore them. They're not nearly as dangerous as the armed criminals you're already ignoring. In fact, even in Canada, the odds of being the victim of a violent crime are many times the odds of being attacked by a barracuda.
Lee
JOF - 14 Mar 2005 19:21 GMT >>>> I'm not uncomfortable around barracudas when I'm diving, and I've >>>>been very close to some good-sized ones, as have most of us here. How [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] >being the victim of a violent crime are many times the odds of being >attacked by a barracuda. I can say with total conviction that whilst diving in the Great Lakes up here I have absolutely no concerns about Cuda attacks.
JF
Adam Helberg - 14 Mar 2005 21:19 GMT >>>>> I'm not uncomfortable around barracudas when I'm diving, and I've >>>>>been very close to some good-sized ones, as have most of us here. How [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > > JF There you're more likely to ingest toxic waste.
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JOF - 14 Mar 2005 21:45 GMT >> I can say with total conviction that whilst diving in the Great Lakes >> up here I have absolutely no concerns about Cuda attacks. >> >> JF > >There you're more likely to ingest toxic waste. Or be attacked by a herd of ravening Zebra Mussels.
JF
Lee Bell - 14 Mar 2005 22:06 GMT >>Really, just ignore them. They're not nearly as dangerous as the armed >>criminals you're already ignoring. In fact, even in Canada, the odds of >>being the victim of a violent crime are many times the odds of being >>attacked by a barracuda.
> I can say with total conviction that whilst diving in the Great Lakes > up here I have absolutely no concerns about Cuda attacks. Glad you agree. How about Bull Sharks?
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Adam Helberg - 14 Mar 2005 22:58 GMT >>>Really, just ignore them. They're not nearly as dangerous as the armed >>>criminals you're already ignoring. In fact, even in Canada, the odds of [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Lee Bull yes.
JOF - 14 Mar 2005 23:08 GMT >>>Really, just ignore them. They're not nearly as dangerous as the armed >>>criminals you're already ignoring. In fact, even in Canada, the odds of [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > >Glad you agree. How about Bull Sharks? He's a wimp too. He'll never come this close to water that is less than 70 degrees in the winter.
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Richard J Kinch - 14 Mar 2005 06:39 GMT > I doubt I could react quickly enough to totally ward off the > first hit, even if I saw it coming, and it's tough to spend all one's > time on a dive keeping an eye on all the barracuda nearby. React quickly enough?
If you've ever seen a cuda strike, all you see is the submarine floating there, and then over there. You don't see the motion in between, it is so fast.
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Keith - 14 Mar 2005 14:17 GMT >> I doubt I could react quickly enough to totally ward off the >> first hit, even if I saw it coming, and it's tough to spend all one's [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >Palm Beach County, Florida USA >http://www.truetex.com When we were night diving last week, we were told to PLEASE not shine our dive lights on the smaller fish as the barracuda would attack them. It didn't work.
Froggy - 15 Mar 2005 00:18 GMT Saw it on night dives in Thailand.
It worked.
The barracuda would swim alongside us, remaining at the edge of the lamps' beams until a fish was lit long enough.
Then snap! all you saw were some bits of fish and a barracuda tail.
With a nice crunching sound.
Cheers,
Froggy
JOF - 14 Mar 2005 14:23 GMT >> I doubt I could react quickly enough to totally ward off the >> first hit, even if I saw it coming, and it's tough to spend all one's [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >there, and then over there. You don't see the motion in between, it is so >fast. Exactly what I meant.
JF
Karl Denninger - 18 Mar 2005 04:32 GMT >> I doubt I could react quickly enough to totally ward off the >> first hit, even if I saw it coming, and it's tough to spend all one's [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >Palm Beach County, Florida USA >http://www.truetex.com Yep.
I've gotten them on video striking a school of baitfish before.
Even when examined in "frame by frame" mode in my DV editing software the actual strike is NOT visible!
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Keith - 13 Mar 2005 19:28 GMT >A good argument for having DAN insurance and not being to complacent around barracuda: > >http://www.thepittsburghchannel.com/news/4269866/detail.html DAN insurance may have helped a little, but only if he had the preferred plan and then they would have paid $10,000 for a non-dive accident.
Adam Helberg - 13 Mar 2005 20:15 GMT >>A good argument for having DAN insurance and not being to complacent around >>barracuda: [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > preferred plan and then they would have paid $10,000 for a non-dive > accident. One time I came across a large Barracuda swimming in a circle, while I was snorkeling. All of a sudden the Barracuda turned to me and you have never seen a snorkeler swim so fast as I did that time.
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JOF - 13 Mar 2005 20:25 GMT >>>A good argument for having DAN insurance and not being to complacent around >>>barracuda: [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >snorkeling. All of a sudden the Barracuda turned to me and you have never seen a >snorkeler swim so fast as I did that time. There is one very people friendly, fairly large Barracuda that lives near Key Largo. He's well known to at least some of the dive ops and on one dive came alongside and swam for what seemed like a couple of hunderd feet barely a foot or two off my right shoulder. Later I saw him apparently playing with the deck hand who would freedive down 20 or 30' and goof around with him. The fish acted like a puppy. I was told his name was Psycho. That's the barracuda, not the boat kid.
JF
nitespark - 13 Mar 2005 20:56 GMT >>>A good argument for having DAN insurance and not being to complacent around >>>barracuda: [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > snorkeling. All of a sudden the Barracuda turned to me and you have never seen a > snorkeler swim so fast as I did that time. Reminds me. All of the barracuda I have seen have been hovering at least 20 ft or more off the bottom, except for one I saw and photographed last year in Cozumel. He was within a few inches of the bottom.
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Bill Fright - 13 Mar 2005 23:15 GMT >>>> A good argument for having DAN insurance and not being to complacent >>>> around barracuda: [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > photographed last year in Cozumel. He was within a few inches of the > bottom. Yep that was probably the one that attacked Paul.
Dillon Pyron - 14 Mar 2005 02:53 GMT >>>A good argument for having DAN insurance and not being to complacent around >>>barracuda: [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > >Adam Last time we were in Cozumel, we watched a 3-4 ft cuda take a fairly large fish. We watched it "worry" the fish for about 15 minutes.
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Steve - 13 Mar 2005 20:43 GMT > DAN insurance may have helped a little, but only if he had the > preferred plan and then they would have paid $10,000 for a non-dive > accident. Both the Preferred and Master plan include coverage for snorkeling as well as diving, making the coverage limit 125 or 250k. The equipment loss provision would also have paid for the mask and snorkel he no doubt lost during the attack. Maybe wearing fins would have reduced the injuries.
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Jer - 13 Mar 2005 21:36 GMT >> DAN insurance may have helped a little, but only if he had the >> preferred plan and then they would have paid $10,000 for a non-dive [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > loss provision would also have paid for the mask and snorkel he no doubt > lost during the attack. Maybe wearing fins would have reduced the injuries. Nothing in that web article about an ankle bracelet or toe ring. One wonders....
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JOF - 13 Mar 2005 21:47 GMT >>> DAN insurance may have helped a little, but only if he had the >>> preferred plan and then they would have paid $10,000 for a non-dive [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >Nothing in that web article about an ankle bracelet or toe ring. One >wonders.... I'd forgotten about that. The first time I went snorkelling in Cancun (before I took up diving) I was cruising around a large coral head at 15' or so and came across a school of smallish but nasty looking fish. I headed for the surface. Later I asked one of the fellers operating the site (it was a commercial platform run by Aquaworld but long since gone) if there were barracuda in these waters. He said definitely, lots of them. I asked if they were dangerous. He said not at all, unles one is wearing shiny jewellery and pointed to my neckchain and silver pendant dangling at my throat.
I now religiously remove my rings and the chain before any dive.
JF
Steve - 14 Mar 2005 05:41 GMT > I now religiously remove my rings and the chain before any dive. There are much better reasons than barracuda to remove your rings. If the water is at all cool shrinkage is likely to affect your fingers, as well as other parts. If a newly loose ring fell off of your finger, you'd hardly be the first that it happened to. I've got a friend who spent a few summers as a lifeguard and he swears he filled a cigar box with rings from the bottom of the pool, and I know someone else who lost his wedding ring in the waters of Bermuda during his honeymoon.
In the very unlikely event that a barracuda, moray, or pufferfish does shred your hand you'll probably be glad you don't have to pull any rings over your mangled fingers.
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drunkinbda - 19 Mar 2005 20:28 GMT Steve Wrote:
> I've got a friend who spent a few summers as a lifeguard and he swears > he filled [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > If you want a reply to reach me, remove the SPAMTRAP from the address. Yeah ive been lifeguarding in bermuda for the past 9 summers. I am always finding stuff that falls off, expensive sunglasses, money, and jewelry. I found a wedding ring, presumeably a womans though while diving one time. Im often surprised at the valueable things people just seem to lose.
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Keith - 13 Mar 2005 22:42 GMT >> Both the Preferred and Master plan include coverage for snorkeling as >> well as diving, making the coverage limit 125 or 250k. The equipment >> loss provision would also have paid for the mask and snorkel he no doubt >> lost during the attack. LOL. I must have "missed" that part of the article.
Skip Elliott Bowman - 14 Mar 2005 18:22 GMT > Nothing in that web article about an ankle bracelet or toe ring. One > wonders.... This is an excerpt from an article I wrote a few years back that describes a barracuda encounter (I tried to convert it to plain text; my apologies if it didn't convert):
Scuba diving is next on the list, so daybreak finds me visiting a sunken wreck about a mile offshore. Royal, an airline pilot from South Carolina, is my scuba partner for the day. He's been diving Anguilla's many shipwrecks for fifteen years and offers to be an informal guide. Upon submerging, we dive seventy feet straight down to the ruins Royal reaches a sunken freighter long before me, and it's just as well: from a porthole amidships emerges a barracuda almost as big as me! Statues fidget more than Royal does as the barracuda slowly circles him, eyeballing him with a half-bored, half-amused expression I notice the dive master's eyes laughing behind her mask; she and the quite tame barracuda are old friends. After the barracuda re-enters the hulk, I tour the reef into a world out of National Geographic. Polka dotted rays, colorful tiny cleaner shrimp, more tropical fish than Sea World, and they're all so big! Here are life-sized versions of animals I've studied in countless aquariums, except this time we're the curiosities being observed. All too soon, the dive is finished and we're headed back to shore. Royal wants to call home and see if his insurance covers assault by barracuda.
chilly - 14 Mar 2005 08:57 GMT > >A good argument for having DAN insurance and not being to complacent around barracuda: > > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > preferred plan and then they would have paid $10,000 for a non-dive > accident. Has anyone heard anything about a DCI incident on the Nai'a? I haven't been able to find out much so far, but I gather DAN would not cover the injured party?
CB - 13 Mar 2005 21:36 GMT >A good argument for having DAN insurance and not being to complacent around >barracuda:
>http://www.thepittsburghchannel.com/news/4269866/detail.html
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>http://members.aol.com/LouVallone The story/article doesn't mention if the victim, Paul Guzan, was wearing anything shiny, attracting the cuda's attention.
I don't think he would be wearing an ankle bracelet or have a mermaid tattoo.
I suspect there's more to the story than reported.
In the years I've dived off Volusia/Cocoa, doing multible dives, 5ft+ cuda get progressively closer as we are near the boat. I've always covered my wedding ring with a glove and taken my nose ring(s) out so as not to attrack the dogs of the sea.
When I got NITROX certified, there where black tip sharks around. I told the Divemaster I'd rather dive with cudas rather than sharks and she said just the opposite.
I guess the point is, be carefull not to sharsh about on the surface to much. Who hasn't played "Maro Polo" in the water?
CB
CB - 13 Mar 2005 21:40 GMT CORRECTION:
>>A good argument for having DAN insurance and not being to complacent >>around >>barracuda: I guess the point is, be carefull not to...
'splash'
...about on the surface to much. Who hasn't played "Maro Polo" in the water?
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Bill Fright - 13 Mar 2005 23:17 GMT >>A good argument for having DAN insurance and not being to complacent around >>barracuda: [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > > CB In Sipadan a month ago we dove purposely to be right next to a huge wall of baracuda. We even took photos. I'd say this instance is very very rare and we're not being told something.
Jim - 20 Mar 2005 02:16 GMT > The story/article doesn't mention if the victim, Paul Guzan, was wearing > anything shiny, attracting the cuda's attention. come on, look at his mugshot:
http://www.thepittsburghchannel.com/news/4269866/detail.html
that's 2 possibly diamond ear-rings. His shirt's done so high you can't see his neck ornamentation, but I would guess it wouldn't be too dissimilar...
wondering how many ears the kid's got left now...
Dr. Yak - 14 Mar 2005 02:16 GMT I was injured diving several years ago in Cozumel, and they also did not want to talk about US insurance. I got a statement from the surgeon (in English), and my insurance company (Aetna) reimbursed me without any problems. I didn't even have to call DAN.
GWB - 14 Mar 2005 04:36 GMT Often, while spearfishing, barracuda will eyeball my fish like they're thinking about helping themselves. If I make an aggressive move toward them they flee.
CB - 14 Mar 2005 04:52 GMT > Often, while spearfishing, barracuda will eyeball my fish like they're > thinking about helping themselves. If I make an aggressive move > toward them they flee. Cuda have sniffed my catch bag zillions of times, with no incident.
There was a time I plugged a sheephead and a parrot fish kept nipping at it. The sheephead, with a spear in its gill was more frightened of the parrot than me. The parrot got in three or four good nips in until I got it to take a hike. Every time the parrot came in the sheephead poured on the juice.
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mike gray - 14 Mar 2005 16:02 GMT > A good argument for having DAN insurance and not being to complacent around barracuda: > > http://www.thepittsburghchannel.com/news/4269866/detail.html Sounds fishy to me.
Barracuda are abundant around here, and gather in groups of hundreds around the wrecks. Being apex predators, they show little fear of humans, but are not aggressive. It's the cold eye, sharp teeth, and lack of fear that spooks people. And five footers are common.
Fisherdudes often get bit, but I think that has to do with being hooked and pulled into a boat. Pisses off the cuda. I was once able to get a cuda to hit a light on a night dive, but it took a lot of work. I wanted to see how fast and hard they hit. Incredibly fast. Very very hard.
The injury to the snorkeler's foot doesn't sound very cuda'ish, either. They don't attack stuff too big to swallow and they don't chew.
And DAN insurance is good stuff, I've had it for twenty years, but never used it. Remember it is secondary coverage, pays if yer primary coverage doesn't.
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Joe - 20 Mar 2005 00:06 GMT It is very difficult for me to believe that this attack was initiated or even caused by a Barracuda.
After snorkeling and scuba diving with thousands of barracudas in many places around the globe, I don't believe the fish is at fault. If it was a Barracuda, it was more likely the result of harrassment, enticement or threatening of the poor fish. There could be a slight chance of mistaken identity, but very unlikely.
Another more likely scenario could be that these kids were drunk out of their minds, probably puked their lunch in the water and the barracuda got in "feeding mode".................hence causing the unfortunate event.
I believe that there was some dumb human intervention to force a Barracuda to attack a thing bigger than themselves.
Because he looks like an Ol'e american boy, their parents seems to be very dumb as well. Making a fuss in Mejico over payment to a hospital. Cheap bastards....I do not believe them that he did not get medical attention. This is just another stupid dumb kid drunk who inserted his foot in the poor Barracuda.
I feel bad for the poor barracudas.
I rather be in the water with a giantbarracuda that with some of the dumb scuba divers that post messages here. Bye
>A good argument for having DAN insurance and not being to complacent around barracuda: > >http://www.thepittsburghchannel.com/news/4269866/detail.html Daniel Arrepas - 20 Mar 2005 16:19 GMT > It is very difficult for me to believe that this attack was initiated > or even caused by a Barracuda. > > After snorkeling and scuba diving with thousands of barracudas in many > places around the globe, I don't believe the fish is at fault. There is nothing about the normal behavior of animals that disallows the sometimes extraordinary behavior. Like the shark that attacks the human, or the Yellow Tangs that attack the unadorned ear, barracudas are perfectly capable of, and are on recorded for, taking a bite out of a person for no reason we humans recognize. We're not that smart about the oceans to know "whys" of everything that happens there.
I haven't had it happen to me, nor have I seen it, but I have spoken to 2 people who have suffered Barracuda attacks for no reason that would seem to match any of our preconceived notions about why they may bite.
There is no reason a fish can't make a mistake, particularly an old or maybe sick one. And any animal that can accelerate to 60mph in 1/2 seconds is going to do some damage even when their attack is mistaken.
Joe - 20 Mar 2005 19:23 GMT Nice assessment............
It will not stop me from continue to enjoy scuba diving.
I just read about a snorkeler cut in half by a shark in Australia. Probably mitaken identity.
http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/asiapcf/03/20/australia.shark.ap/index.html
>> It is very difficult for me to believe that this attack was initiated >> or even caused by a Barracuda. [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] >sick one. And any animal that can accelerate to 60mph in 1/2 seconds is >going to do some damage even when their attack is mistaken. Daniel Arrepas - 21 Mar 2005 02:32 GMT > Nice assessment............ And I didn't mean to be argumentative. In fact your reference to vomit and the attraction to the fish reminded me of my early diving days when we would dive West Palm, drink and drive our way down to the Keys that night, and then take Crawford's boat out for a few dives in the morning. On a couple occasions I threw up underwater and the resulting mad dash by the Yellowtails to gobble it up would get me bit a time or two.
I don't discount this could have happened with the 'cuda, though I would expect the bite to have been around the head rather than the foot were this the case.
chilly - 21 Mar 2005 07:51 GMT > > Nice assessment............ > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > expect the bite to have been around the head rather than the foot were this > the case. Maybe he was swimming away from the barf, when it happened.
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