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Scuba Forum / General / February 2005Lobster Rage!
Anybody ever been in a fight with a lobster? I'm trying to find out how much damage an average sized lobster could do if it got hold of a diver. No doubt they can give a painful nip but are the claws strong enough to tear neoprene gloves? Break skin? Break bones? Chop bits off the unwary? Do tell of your encounters. I'm all ears (at least until the dive season starts again). Richard > Anybody ever been in a fight with a lobster? I'm trying to find out how > much damage an average sized lobster could [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > your encounters. I'm all ears (at least until > the dive season starts again). Real lobster don't have claws. Oh, you mean the mushy, tasteless, cold water variety. Yes, they can tear neoprene gloves, yes, they can break skin. Break bones, well, maybe. Chop off bits? I'm not going to be the one to test that one. Dive season starts and ends? Lee Florida (like you didn't know) > skin. Break bones, well, maybe. Chop off bits? I'm not going to be the > one to test that one. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Lee > Florida (like you didn't know) Cold water lobbie Caught one once off Anglesey... Chucked him in the bottom of the RIB and forgot about it till the engine started to miss-fire... Found him clamped to the fuel line - not quite cutting through it, but blooming close. Not broken any bones, but very close! Some Lobbies & crabs open their claws very quickly to clamp into holes - others close very quickly & hard, presumably in self defence.... > Real lobster don't have claws. Oh, you mean the mushy, tasteless, cold > water variety. Yes, they can tear neoprene gloves, yes, they can break [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Lee > Florida (like you didn't know) Just like a redneck to be afraid of everything that can possibly fight back, unless he's got his shotgun! Cold water lobsters are just as tasty as the warm water variety and with the added bonuses of extra meat in the claws (which IMNSHO is the best meat, just like crabs), and knowing that you had to work to get it. > Cold water lobsters are just as tasty as the warm water variety and with the > added bonuses of extra meat in the claws (which IMNSHO is the best meat, > just like crabs), and knowing that you had to work to get it. Work at it? I don't see the big fuckin' deal... Shoot the f.cker with your Glock, tie him onto a lift bag, send him up to the crew on the boat who should already have a boiling pot ready for him... >> Cold water lobsters are just as tasty as the warm water variety and with >the [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >Glock, tie him onto a lift bag, send him up to the crew on the boat who >should already have a boiling pot ready for him... Whoa there, buckaroo. Half the fun of cooking a lobster is dropping them into a boiling pot while still alive. Most of the posters here (US, at any rate) should remember Larry the Lobster. The sucker got a reprieve. It was also the first use of 900 numbers in the US.  Signaturedillon "When the French are against it, you know we can't be far wrong." - Adm. Bobbie Ray Inman > Whoa there, buckaroo. Half the fun of cooking a lobster is dropping > them into a boiling pot while still alive. We always race ours against each other before we cook them. You can also microwave them, but if you're squemish you've got about 30 seconds to get out before they start banging on the door asking to be let out. > Just like a redneck to be afraid of everything that can possibly fight > back, > unless he's got his shotgun! Smile when you say that son. > Cold water lobsters are just as tasty as the warm water variety and with > the > added bonuses of extra meat in the claws (which IMNSHO is the best meat, > just like crabs), and knowing that you had to work to get it. If you compare carefully, you'll find that the tail makes up more of a Spiny lobster than it does on a Maine lobster. I'm not sure it's enough larger to completely make up for the claws, but it's a start. I agree that the claw meat is the best on a cold water lobster. Problem is, the best meat on a cold water lobster is not as good, IMNSHO, as the tail meat on a Spiny. As for working for it, I doubt that any lobster comes along quietly. Lee > Problem is, the best meat on a cold water lobster is not as > good, IMNSHO, as the tail meat on a Spiny. So, when does lobster season open in FL? Turned out that crab season wasn't open in Seattle when I was up there and Scott and I didn't get to go catch any of them... It's open until the end of March. It opens again in early August. Lee >> Problem is, the best meat on a cold water lobster is not as >> good, IMNSHO, as the tail meat on a Spiny. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > open in Seattle when I was up there and Scott and I didn't get to go catch > any of them... > It's open until the end of March. It opens again in early August. Pretty long season... I guess the March to August timeframe is their breeding season? >> It's open until the end of March. It opens again in early August. > > Pretty long season... I guess the March to August timeframe is their > breeding season? I haven't a clue, but since I've now confirmed that the season is still open, guess I'd better check to see if it's legal to take them off the Spiegel Grove. I don't expect it's the best place for lobstering, but you never know what will turn up. If they're legal, I want to be prepared to take a few. I have a grand total of none in my freezer for the first time in a few years. Lee > Anybody ever been in a fight with a lobster? I heard of this chick catching a 13 lb'r off Daytona and in the two handed struggle got her thumb caught in its beak, loosing her nail and it looking like Jack Horner when she finally got it out. Whether she was able to bag the monster, dun'know > I'm trying to find out how much damage an average sized lobster could do > if [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Richard >Anybody ever been in a fight with a lobster? > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >Do tell of your encounters. I'm all ears (at least until the dive season >starts again). The big claw on a 4lb plus lobster can crush a scallop (pecten maximus) shell. I used one to show a fellow diver that it was not a good idea to put you boot into the claw. He said but they had steel toe caps , I mentioned that was only the top. He stopped quick. -- Steve Barlow > Anybody ever been in a fight with a lobster? > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Richard I heard a story, which I have no reason to doubt, of a decent size lobster flopping around in the bottom of a rib with the pleased divers' kit. Apparantly it latched onto the second stage of a psiedon (?sp) valve and crushed it comprehensively. Diver not so pleased! M > Anybody ever been in a fight with a lobster? > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Do tell of your encounters. I'm all ears (at least until the dive season > starts again). I know 2 people who had their light cords cut by NY lobsters, causing the lights to flood and suffer hundreds of dollars in damage. > Anybody ever been in a fight with a lobster? > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Chop > bits off the unwary? Got my thumb neatly pierced by an approx. 1.5lb one before. Fortunately the top part of the claw slid down the side of the nail rather than puncture right through it. It did make my eyes water a bit. My buddies were immediately very concerned and dealt with their anxiety through the well known displacement activity of rolling around laughing hysterically and wiping away the tears that were running down their cheeks. It's the little buggers you've got to watch out for. Lee > > Anybody ever been in a fight with a lobster? > > [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > It's the little buggers you've got to watch out for. Very Big maine lobsters (real lobsters) run 45-55 lbs. If you ever see one that big, you will reconsider sticking your arm into dark holes. even 10 lbs is intimidating. > Lee > Very Big maine lobsters (real lobsters) run 45-55 lbs. > If you ever see one that big, > you will reconsider sticking your arm into dark holes. > even 10 lbs is intimidating. I'll believe in a 55 lb lobster when I see it on my plate, not before. Lee > > Very Big maine lobsters (real lobsters) run 45-55 lbs. > > If you ever see one that big, > > you will reconsider sticking your arm into dark holes. > > even 10 lbs is intimidating. > > I'll believe in a 55 lb lobster when I see it on my plate, not before. about 8 years ago, a nj diver caught one on a wreck. they were guessing about 52 lbs. > Lee >> I'll believe in a 55 lb lobster when I see it on my plate, not before. > > about 8 years ago, a nj diver caught one on a wreck. > they were guessing about 52 lbs. Just goes to show you can't trust them yankees. On the plate . . . then I believe. Lee > >> I'll believe in a 55 lb lobster when I see it on my plate, not before. > > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Just goes to show you can't trust them yankees. On the plate . . . then I > believe. Try hitting lobster into http://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/ -- world record is apparantly from 1977 and weighed in at 44lbs... SignatureMichael > > >> I'll believe in a 55 lb lobster when I see it on my plate, not before. > > > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Try hitting lobster into http://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/ -- world > record is apparantly from 1977 and weighed in at 44lbs... Even at 44lb... ...bloody hell! CAS Lee Bell fumbled, fiddled and fingered: >>> I'll believe in a 55 lb lobster when I see it on my plate, not >>> before. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Lee http://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/gwr5/content_pages/record.asp?recordid=51451 SignatureSteve Parry K100RS SE & F650 and a 520i SE Touring for comfort (not forgetting the SK90PY) http://www.gwynfryn.co.uk > Anybody ever been in a fight with a lobster? > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Richard I dive of LI New York, and the larger lobster are indeed capable of breaking bone, I have had a few freinds with broken bones in the hands. The largest lobster I bagged was just over 10lbs, and while he did get a hold of me I was lucky nothing broke as he was a quiter. I have gone after 20 lbs (unsucessfully) and the biggest concern with them is they can break your wrist. AS for cuts I have seen many divers need a stitch or two after getting tagged, general the smaller ones are the sharp ones. Keep in mind that the maine lobsters have 1 ripper claw (these are the one that cut people) and 1 crusher (these can be the bone breakers. Lastly, the ones that fight the hardest are female with eggs, everytime I have been clawed good its been a bug with eggs. > I dive of LI New York, and the larger lobster are indeed capable of > breaking bone, I have had a few freinds with broken bones in the hands. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > breakers. Lastly, the ones that fight the hardest are female with eggs, > everytime I have been clawed good its been a bug with eggs. Wow.. you beat me to it! I too dive LI, NY and go lobstering. I have had my thumb sliced while being clawed. If it weren't for the thumb nail, I would have been cut all the way through. When I took my glove off on the boat, lots of blood came out. And yes, I did get the lobster. I was wearing 5mm neoprene gloves. A buddy of mine had a piece of his thumb chopped off. He didn't get the lobster. Fellow divers have come up with deeply bruised fingers from being clawed. I agree, the females with eggs will fight you to the end. As soon as I get a hold of a lobster, I know right away from the fighting if it is a female with eggs. Little lobsters seem to fight a lot. They are quicker than their bigger relatives. The big ones (have have caught 8 and 10 pounders) fight, but are slow. You certainly DON'T want a large lobster getting their pincer claw on you. You will be missing soming. And, they don't let go. BTW... what wrecks have you dove off LI? > BTW... what wrecks have you dove off LI? In the last 16 years I hit about 90 different wrecks up here. Most of the popular ones (ie. San Diego, RMS Oregon, Stolt etc.) and a bunch down the road less traveled (Scallop wreck, Across, three fares, etc.). >>BTW... what wrecks have you dove off LI? > In the last 16 years I hit about 90 different wrecks up here. Most of > the popular ones (ie. San Diego, RMS Oregon, Stolt etc.) and a bunch > down the road less traveled (Scallop wreck, Across, three fares, etc.). I too have dove the popular ones, a few "no name" wrecks, wrecks off of Jersey along with the Texas Tower, Doria and a few of the mud hole wrecks. I can't wait for the dive season to start. We charter a boat out of Freeport from June-Sept for our weekly Sunday dives. We dive before that (as soon as the boat hits the water), but "run the show" during that time period. > Wracker wrote. > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > their pincer claw on you. You will be missing soming. And, they don't let > go. What's wrong with you septics? At least I was on the surface & was a bit careless when I let one get me. You guys obviously need to improve your technique! A bit more guile, a bit less brute force & ignorance. Lee >>Wracker wrote. >> [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] >>their pincer claw on you. You will be missing soming. And, they don't let >>go. > What's wrong with you septics? At least I was on the surface & was a bit > careless when I let one get me. You guys obviously need to improve your > technique! A bit more guile, a bit less brute force & ignorance. Sure Lee. :) I would love to see you in action with the lobsters up here hiding in a piece of wreckage that is just big enough for them to fit in with their claws facing you. There is a technique for getting them. Anyone that has gone after lobsters up here have been "had" by the lobsters. I have been clawed, but I come out with the lobster. Then, there is the grill waiting for it on the boat! > Anybody ever been in a fight with a lobster? I lost a fight with one off Roatan on a night dive after several days of diving. I don't know why I picked it up; I must've been narced. I guess I deserved the damned near defleshing of my hand. One of many lessons on not harassing the fauna. >>Anybody ever been in a fight with a lobster? > > I lost a fight with one off Roatan on a night dive after several days of > diving. I don't know why I picked it up; I must've been narced. I guess I > deserved the damned near defleshing of my hand. One of many lessons > on not harassing the fauna. It's more fun playing with them than chasing them. I had one young britannic lobster envellopping my index finger curiously with his one antenna, then with the other, his comrades coming by and looking also. Others I played with using dumped antenna liners, they got all excited because they were supposing I was signalling something which they could not fully understand, sign that they use their antennas for communication, like ants. Matthias > >>Anybody ever been in a fight with a lobster? > > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > Matthias Way Cool... if thats not too american for an Irish bloke in london on UKRS So whats antena for 'Thermadore Sauce'? Or even better, 'fancy comming round to ours for dinner?' -- that would save the fingers... ;-) Signaturepat rick at vir gin dot net www.tigershark.org.uk >>It's more fun playing with them than chasing them. >>I had one young britannic lobster envellopping my index finger curiously [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > So whats antena for 'Thermadore Sauce'? Crisp, I suppose. Matthias > It's more fun playing with them than chasing them. > I had one young britannic lobster envellopping my index finger curiously > with his one antenna, then with the other, his comrades coming by and > looking also. Me too since the near defleshing. It's fun. :) |
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