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Scuba Forum / General / January 2005Equipment reviews
HI All, Are there any good sites with trust worthy reviews out there? I am having a bit of a problem deciding on gar as most of the sites all say good things about he items being reviewed... Cheers G. Rodales Scuba Diving does pretty good gear reviews. www.scubadiving.com Lisa > HI All, > Are there any good sites with trust worthy reviews out there? I am having [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > G. Rodales Scuba Diving does pretty good gear reviews. www.scubadiving.com Lisa > HI All, > Are there any good sites with trust worthy reviews out there? I am having [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > G. > Rodales Scuba Diving does pretty good gear reviews. www.scubadiving.com <snicker> You probably should have researched that a bit before you put your foot in your mouth like that... A more accurate statement would be that they do good gear reviews FOR THEIR ADVERTISERS... S'truth. Hmmm, yummy fins... Lisa >> Rodales Scuba Diving does pretty good gear reviews. www.scubadiving.com > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > good > gear reviews FOR THEIR ADVERTISERS... >> Rodales Scuba Diving does pretty good gear reviews. www.scubadiving.com > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > your mouth like that... A more accurate statement would be that they do good > gear reviews FOR THEIR ADVERTISERS... What evidence do you have for that? >From: "Adam Helberg" sendspamhere@yahoo.com >Date: 12/24/2004 2:03 PM Eastern Standard Time [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > >What evidence do you have for that? Common sense? Popeye The only working atomic bomb platforms the Japanese ever had were delivered via airmail. > What evidence do you have for that? Depends upon your definition of 'evidence'... What one convince one person might not convince another person... Here's a link... We've discussed this in detail on previous topics and some people are convinced, some refuse to be convinced by *anything*... http://www.forcefin.com/FF_PAGES/FF_wisewords/rodalesuit.htm Of particular note is the next to last paragraph: <snip> Statements made by Dane Farnum, Publisher, Rodale's Scuba Diving regarding the suit conclude with the statement that "Rodale's Scuba Diving will continue to publish the only comparative scuba equipment evaluations available in the United States." The evaluations are not characterized as "independent", "objective" or "unbiased" as was objected by Bob Evans Designs, Inc. </snip> End result is that yes, Rodales does compare things, but one should understand that there might be some bias in their comparisons... At the very least, it is a place where one might see what items might be currently available for the recreational market... Don't hold your breath on waiting for them to do a review of various backplates though... <grin >> What evidence do you have for that? > [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > available for the recreational market... Don't hold your breath on waiting > for them to do a review of various backplates though... <grin> Rodale's is no Consumer Reports and obviously accepts advertising and is a money making outfit. Also some brands refuse to submit their products for testing. For example ScubaPro at one time or currently is one of them. It's not surprising the ratings are biased to some extent by advertising pressure. Nevertheless when it comes to scuba gear there is no Consumer Reports. There are advertising blurbs as in California news, user reviews and some attempts at comparative tests. Some of the data on gear in Rodale's on gear is very good--for example conservativeness comparison of various computers was very good. You have to use what data is available when buying gear taking into account that the data may be flawed, still it's better than nothing or listening to a dive shop salesman. Adam >>>Rodales Scuba Diving does pretty good gear reviews. www.scubadiving.com >> [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > What evidence do you have for that? read the magazine, peruse the advertisers. If you have the sense to unzip before pissing, you'll figure it out.  SignatureThe constitution promises freedom OF religion, not freedom FROM religion. Think about it, It ain't that hard to figure out. If your religion is none, then deal with it. I strongly urge everyone reading this to check out WWW.anysoldier.us, and support our troops with a letter, a package or a donation. > What evidence do you have for that? Their opinion on spare air? SignatureSteve The above can be construed as personal opinion in the absence of a reasonable belief that it was intended as a statement of fact. If you want a reply to reach me, remove the SPAMTRAP from the address. > HI All, > Are there any good sites with trust worthy reviews out there? I am [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > G. How about simply asking opinions here? But don't mention 'spare air'... SignatureMichael Wolf ------------ Cthulhu for President! Why settle for the lesser evil? remove stopspam to reply Hi Michael, That would be a bit too time consuming... Thus I was hoping for a review site... Thanks Gerald > > HI All, > > Are there any good sites with trust worthy reviews out there? I am [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > But don't mention 'spare air'... >Hi Michael, >That would be a bit too time consuming... >Thus I was hoping for a review site... The problem is, you can fund it one of two ways. Subscription/membership model (Consumer's Report) or advertising model (magazines). One of them can reasonably assure objectivity, but has a high cost to the individual. The other is cheap to you, but has the risk of being biased towards advertisers. Even in a comparative review, there may be a winner, but everyone is likely to come out smelling pretty good. >Thanks > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] >> >> But don't mention 'spare air'... Spare air good. Gives plenty of time to make a generic plea for forgiveness of all sins. And probably The Lord's Prayer, if you are quick about it. Signaturedillon "When the French are against it, you know we can't be far wrong." - Adm. Bobbie Ray Inman Hi All, Does anyone use the following and what is the review on it? : 1 Oceanic Zeta 2 Oceanic FX BCD 3 ScubaPro MK25 / s600 4 ScubaPro Classic Sport 5 Mares Proton MR 12 6 Mares R2 Axis 7 Mares Jubilee BCD 8 Mares Vector Origin 9 Dacor Fury ADJ Reg 10 Dacor Fury Octopus 11 Deepoutdoors Neutrino BCD its a long list... Sorry... G. > >Hi Michael, > >That would be a bit too time consuming... [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > forgiveness of all sins. And probably The Lord's Prayer, if you are > quick about it. > Hi All, > Does anyone use the following and what is the review on it? : [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > 10 Dacor Fury Octopus > 11 Deepoutdoors Neutrino BCD Our club is using the MR12 and Vector Origin for its' courses. It's good, sturdy equipment. Nothing fancy, but it'll do the job (and keep on doing it) > its a long list... Sorry... > [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] >> forgiveness of all sins. And probably The Lord's Prayer, if you are >> quick about it. SignatureMichael Wolf ------------ Cthulhu for President! Why settle for the lesser evil? remove stopspam to reply Wife uses the Scubapro MK25T/XS650...<--Lightweight for small mouths :-) ^----Moved up to the T because of the better cold water freeze protection... Paul in VT |
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