> >From: "Scott" pugetsounddiver@geemail.com
> >Date: 12/21/2004 2:17 PM Eastern Standard Time
> >Message-id: <10sgtl4msgte1f0@corp.supernews.com>
> >> I guess I'm just kind of old-fashioned...
> >Well then, here is a little gift:
> >http://www.cnsnews.com//ViewNation.asp?Page=\Nation\archive\200412\NAT200
> 41221a.html
> "The Brady Center to Prevent Gun Violence did not return calls seeking
> comment on the Justice Department's determination,..."
<chortle>
For once the stupid bastards have nothing to say.
> >From: "Scott" pugetsounddiver@geemail.com
> >Date: 12/21/2004 2:17 PM Eastern Standard Time
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> "The Brady Center to Prevent Gun Violence did not return calls seeking
> comment on the Justice Department's determination,..."
I liked this one
"Both the language and history of the Second Amendment show that its subject
matter was not individual rights," Henigan said, "but rather the
distribution of military power in society between the states and the federal
government."
However, the second amendment is:
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State,
the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed
Similarly, the 10th amendment is
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor
prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or
to the people
Using the "distribution" idea, the 10th amendment applies only to states,
and not individuals (the people).
The Constitution seems pretty clear when addressing individual vs state vs
federal rights & powers.
Dennis
> Popeye
> The only working atomic bomb platforms the
> Japanese ever had were delivered via airmail.
Dillon Pyron - 22 Dec 2004 04:24 GMT
>> >From: "Scott" pugetsounddiver@geemail.com
>> >Date: 12/21/2004 2:17 PM Eastern Standard Time
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>A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State,
>the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed
Do you know what the phrase "a well regulated Militia" means? It has
nothing to do with who controls it and everything to do with how well
they fight as a group.
>Similarly, the 10th amendment is
>The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor
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>> The only working atomic bomb platforms the
>> Japanese ever had were delivered via airmail.

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dillon
"When the French are against it, you know we can't
be far wrong." - Adm. Bobbie Ray Inman
Dennis \(Icarus\) - 22 Dec 2004 11:35 GMT
> >> >From: "Scott" pugetsounddiver@geemail.com
> >> >Date: 12/21/2004 2:17 PM Eastern Standard Time
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> nothing to do with who controls it and everything to do with how well
> they fight as a group.
And do you know what the phrase "the right of the people to keep and bear
arms, shall not be infringed" means? :-)
How about "being necessry to the security if a free state"? :-)
Considering what the colonists just went through, to secure their freedom
from an oppressive regime, they saw the need to have the people keep and
bear arms as a matter of security for their freedoms - from external and
internal threats.
Again, my point is that the constitution is pretty clear (at least to me)
when talking of state vs individual rights.
I give as an example the 10th - "reserved to the states, or to the people".
Hmm.....the people.....same phrase as in "the right of the people to..." :-)
Dennis
> >Similarly, the 10th amendment is
> >The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> >> The only working atomic bomb platforms the
> >> Japanese ever had were delivered via airmail.