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ladywildcat - 11 Oct 2004 17:30 GMT
If given the choice between two differant dive shops.. one doing your open
water cert off shore and one doing it off a boat.... which would be your top
choice?

thanks
Brien Alkire - 11 Oct 2004 18:35 GMT
That depends on where you will be doing most of your dives.

Most dive shops here in Southern California require a shore dive and a few
boat dives.  Personally I don't like shore diving here because the
visibility is poor compared to boat dives at the islands.  But shore dives
here can be a little challenging and it's a good experience to have IMHO.

> If given the choice between two differant dive shops.. one doing your open
> water cert off shore and one doing it off a boat.... which would be your top
> choice?
>
> thanks
Joe English - 11 Oct 2004 21:39 GMT
> If given the choice between two differant dive shops.. one doing your open
> water cert off shore and one doing it off a boat.... which would be your top
> choice?
>
> thanks

off the boat
Popeye NCAT3 - 12 Oct 2004 10:43 GMT
>From: "ladywildcat" ladywildcat_99@yahoo.com
>Date: 10/11/2004 12:30 PM Eastern Daylight Time
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>water cert off shore and one doing it off a boat.... which would be your top
>choice?

 Give us more info.

 Who, what where.

 Boat, though.
               

                                   Popeye  
  Man is certainly stark mad. He cannot even make a worm,
           and yet he will be making gods by the dozens.
Jon C - 12 Oct 2004 12:50 GMT
> If given the choice between two differant dive shops.. one doing your open
> water cert off shore and one doing it off a boat.... which would be your top
> choice?
>
> thanks

Off the shore.  I get seasick on boats (but not on kayaks, interestingly).
ladywildcat - 12 Oct 2004 19:56 GMT
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>If given the choice between two differant dive shops.. one doing your open
>water cert off shore and one doing it off a boat.... which would be your top
>choice?

 >Give us more info.

 >Who, what where.

 >Boat, though.

  >                                Popeye
  >Man is certainly stark mad. He cannot even make a worm,
          > and yet he will be making gods by the dozens.

Two local dive shops, in Arizona.... lake diving, one shop does it off a
boat and the other off the shore. Ive got one of my open water dives done
via a discrovery dive in Kauai... was a shore dive.
Most my diving will be done in varried locations... some boat and some
shore.... locally will prob be more shore diving.... but trip next yr to Aus
will be more then likely off a boat.

Most of the responces Ive gotten say boat.... why? (kelly) did answer why in
reply.

Thanks
Popeye NCAT3 - 13 Oct 2004 02:52 GMT
>From: "ladywildcat" ladywildcat_99@yahoo.com

>Two local dive shops, in Arizona.... lake diving, one shop does it off a
>boat and the other off the shore. Ive got one of my open water dives done
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>Most of the responces Ive gotten say boat.... why? (kelly) did answer why in
>reply.

 On the ocean, boats are a whole lot more fun.

 I dunno about a lake.

 Boats are fun because you're away from the shore, the diving is usually
better, the trip is fun.

 Plus, learning how to boat dive, especially being considerate of your fellow
divers, is not something you want to do OJT.

 You may well wind up next to a diver like me, more than willing to give you
the benefit of my opinion.
               

                                   Popeye  
  Man is certainly stark mad. He cannot even make a worm,
           and yet he will be making gods by the dozens.
mike gray - 13 Oct 2004 04:05 GMT
>   You may well wind up next to a diver like me, more than willing to give you
> the benefit of my opinion.

Of course, there's a price to be paid.....
Jammer Six - 13 Oct 2004 04:35 GMT
>   You may well wind up next to a diver like me, more than willing to give you
> the benefit of my opinion.

Or you could end up next to me, and then you can learn dive boat
etiquette.

The hard way.

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Steve - 14 Oct 2004 03:40 GMT
> Two local dive shops, in Arizona.... lake diving, one shop does it off a
> boat and the other off the shore. Ive got one of my open water dives done
> via a discrovery dive in Kauai... was a shore dive.

Was there anything about the shore dive that makes you prefer a boat dive for the OW
dives? As Lee points out, the type of dives isn't the right criteria for deciding
between the two shops. You can always do your checkout dives elsewhere with a
referral. We usually suggest doing them at home, but supposing you were going to do
your dives on a vacation to the tropics, which shop would you use for the lessons at
home? That's the one you should use, and then do your dives with them by whichever
method they choose, unless there's a compelling reason to make a different decision.

The points about boat etiquette are relevant, and regardless of how the checkout
dives are done your instructor should cover the topic.

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Adam Helberg - 13 Oct 2004 02:50 GMT
> If given the choice between two differant dive shops.. one doing your open
> water cert off shore and one doing it off a boat.... which would be your top
> choice?
>
> thanks

For the first open water, a dive from a boat into shallow and calm water is  easier
as it requires no swimming and less exertion, to practice you skills. Also, depending
where, swimming through surf can be challanging and something you don't need on your
first dives.

Adam
Jammer Six - 13 Oct 2004 04:33 GMT
> > If given the choice between two differant dive shops.. one doing your open
> > water cert off shore and one doing it off a boat.... which would be your top
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> practice you skills. Also, depending where, swimming through surf can
> be challanging and something you don't need on your first dives.

Furthermore, if you're overweighted, your family will know why you died.

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chilly - 13 Oct 2004 05:31 GMT
> > If given the choice between two differant dive shops.. one doing your open
> > water cert off shore and one doing it off a boat.... which would be your top
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> where, swimming through surf can be challanging and something you don't need on your
> first dives.

I may not have needed it, but I think it gave me quite a bit better
perspective and a real edge on experience for future boat dives.
Lee Bell - 13 Oct 2004 04:38 GMT
> If given the choice between two differant dive shops.. one doing your open
> water cert off shore and one doing it off a boat.... which would be your
> top
> choice?

The one with the best instructor.
Charlie Hammond - 18 Oct 2004 17:55 GMT
>If given the choice between two differant dive shops.. one doing your open
>water cert off shore and one doing it off a boat.... which would be your top
>choice?

Talk to the instructor at each shop who will be teaching your course.
Choose the one you think will be the better teacher.

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