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Scuba Forum / General / October 2004moustache ideas
I've tried vaseline to seal provide a better seal and it works, but frankly it's a drag - bleeech! Are there any masks perhaps that seem to seal better with facial hair? Any other suggestions - other than shaving....? thx a I use the Cressi Big Eyes and get a good seal. The ScubaPro Crystal View also gives me a good seal. > I've tried vaseline to seal provide a better seal and it works, but frankly > it's a drag - bleeech! Are there any masks perhaps that seem to seal better > with facial hair? Any other suggestions - other than shaving....? > thx > a > I've tried vaseline to seal provide a better seal and it works, but frankly > it's a drag - bleeech! Are there any masks perhaps that seem to seal better > with facial hair? Any other suggestions - other than shaving....? > thx > a Back when I sported a moustache I would shave the top 1/8". Just enough to get a good seal. I know one diver who actually had the top fraction of an inch of his moustache hair removed by electrolosis.  SignatureSafe diving, Dale Bennett Captain Dale's, Inc. Enterprise Marine, Inc., Dive Charters > I've tried vaseline to seal provide a better seal and it works, but frankly > it's a drag - bleeech! Are there any masks perhaps that seem to seal better > with facial hair? Any other suggestions - other than shaving....? > thx > a Dinky Dave uses that black tacky grease from 5th wheel trailers... I know a couple guys with significant 'stashes, and they just tried masks until they found one that fit their face. > I've tried vaseline to seal provide a better seal and it works, but frankly > it's a drag - bleeech! Are there any masks perhaps that seem to seal better > with facial hair? Any other suggestions - other than shaving....? > thx > a I use a Mares Mariner mask and have no problem. Mine's cut rather short however SignatureMichael Wolf ----- Cthulhu For President. Why settle for the lesser evil? remove stopspam to reply >I've tried vaseline to seal provide a better seal and it works, but frankly >it's a drag - bleeech! Are there any masks perhaps that seem to seal better >with facial hair? Any other suggestions - other than shaving....? Live with it. I have a moustache. Durring descent it tends to leak a bit. Once I'm down, well, some dives it is almost no problem; other times it is distinctly annoying. It helps to get the mask properly equalized -- if it is below ambient pressuer it will such water in. I also use a purge valve mask. I find it allows me to purge small amounts of water frequently without using my hands. (If you get a purge valve mask, be sure to get one that will let ALL the water in the mask flow to the purge valve. I had on mask that had finger pockets which created a "damn" next to the purge valve -- could NOT purge that last little bit of water!) SignatureCharlie Hammond -- Hewlett-Packard Company -- Ft Lauderdale FL USA (hammond@not@peek.ssr.hp.com -- remove "@not" when replying) All opinions expressed are my own and not necessarily my employer's. >Subject: moustache ideas >From: "a" noway@spamfree.net >I've tried vaseline to seal provide a better seal and it works, but frankly >it's a drag - bleeech! Are there any masks perhaps that seem to seal better >with facial hair? Any other suggestions - other than shaving....? >thx >a I just shave the top a 1/8-1/4in. down. Seals fine, grows back quickly. Capt. Bill > I've tried vaseline to seal provide a better seal and it works, but frankly > it's a drag - bleeech! Are there any masks perhaps that seem to seal better > with facial hair? Any other suggestions - other than shaving....? > thx > a Vaseline is the worst thing you can do. It will ruin the mask skirt. What some folks do is shave about 1/4" beneath the nose. Not enough to notice, but enough to make a good mask seal. SignatureMore people died in Ted Kennedy's car than have been killed by my guns. > I've tried vaseline to seal provide a better seal and it works, but frankly > it's a drag - bleeech! Are there any masks perhaps that seem to seal better > with facial hair? Any other suggestions - other than shaving....? > thx > a To second everyone else, just find a mask that fits well, learn to shift it a bit to pack the mustache hair together until it seals. And vaseline is definitely bad for the rubber. If you still need to use a sealant, try plain old chapstick. > Any other suggestions - other than shaving....? Suggestions? You mean like don't hide behind anonymous postings? Oh, you meant about keeping your mask from leaking... Personally, I have found that the older models are better... The Navy MK-V to be particularly good for this sort of thing... http://www.geocities.com/Yosemite/Rapids/3435/mkvicduw.jpg > > Any other suggestions - other than shaving....? > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > http://www.geocities.com/Yosemite/Rapids/3435/mkvicduw.jpg I was not aware that my anonymity was in any way odd. My bogus email address is to prevent spambots from picking me up and nothing more. I'll be glad to introduce myself: I'm a snorkeler, and I'd like to think that I'm somewhere between a cruise-ship bobber and a hardbody freediver. I like to float in 10-40' water and I think I could probably hit 50-100 water with a little practice. Typ apnea times are around 1:45-2:00. Just recently picked up a set of longblades in the hopes of improving my depth capabilities, and I hope to try them out this nov in the VI. Currently comfortable with 30-40 feet or so. I've been snorkeling since I was a kid (almost 40 yrs ago) when my uncle who lived in the tropics gave me a 'professional' quality Cressi set of mask, snorkel and fins. I debate doing a PADI course every time I'm near a resort, and I always tell myself I can see most of it in the upper 30' of water anyways, plus if I do something like that, I'd want to be diving at least a dozen times a year - something I cannot currently do. Of course there are many things I can't do like exploring wrecks and such. But to do otherwise, would be like taking flying lessons, and then only flying a handful of times a year. Dangerous and not cost effective - I guess I don't like being a weekend warrior. So I snorkel. Maybe when I'm closer to retirement, I'll want to invest the time in scuba.... I currently use a Technisub Look mask, because it was avail when I needed correcting lenses. It's always been a bit leaky around my moustache, and I just deal with it by occasionally purging underwater, but it's a nuisance. The other day I wondered to myself how other 'hardcore' divers deal with it. I'll close by saying that the answers have been most helpful! Believe it or not, the suggestion of shaving the upper part of 'stache' had not occured to me. I also had assumed that all masks were created 'equal' in this regard. I'll see if I can try some different ones and hopefully find a better fit. a > otherwise, would be like taking flying lessons, and then only flying a > handful of times a year. Dangerous and not cost effective - I guess I > don't Is flying a plane as easy as "don't hold your breath while you ascend"? How cost effective does a class costing at most a few hundred bucks have to be? "a" <noway@spamfree.net> wrote .... > I was not aware that my anonymity was in any way odd. My bogus email > address is to prevent spambots from picking me up and nothing more. I'll be > glad to introduce myself: We tend to like people who will put a name and address behind their postings... It's ok to go by a handle as long as everyone knows who you really are and obfuscating your email address is acceptable as long as it is readily apparent how to unobfuscate it... Different people use different methods for obfuscation... Some put "NO_SPAM" in an otherwise valid reply address... I used to put "DIE-SPAMMER-SCUM" in mine... These days, I have an email address that changes monthly and the newsgroup headers detail the changes necessary for personal email... The people who post anonymously (especially through the remailers) tend to either get summarily dismissed or never show up for many of us since we have put that entire domain in our blocked senders list... > But to do otherwise, would be like taking flying lessons, and then only > flying a handful of times a year. As a pilot, I would have to say that many people do only fly a handful of times each year... It is an adrenaline rush that even a few times each year is better than not doing it at all... > Maybe when I'm closer to retirement, I'll want to invest the time in scuba. Lessons are cheap, go for it... > The other day I wondered to myself how other 'hardcore' divers deal > with it. We just deal with the leaking... I've been diving since around 1976 and have only encountered a couple of masks over the years that did not have that noticeable of a leak for me... Given the choice of shaving or having a leaky mask, I choose having a leaky mask... I do remember one 3-window black rubber mask with a stainless steel frame from around 1980 or so that seemed to fit well enough that it didn't leak... These days, the mask that I have that doesn't leak just happens to be one that I picked up from Wal-Mart when I was on a dive trip and had forgot to pack my mask... Strange that a mask for less than $20 works better than ones that I've spent over $80 on, but sometimes things don't work out exactly like one might expect... I still use the leaky mask though since it has prescription lenses in it... > "a" <noway@spamfree.net> wrote .... > > I was not aware that my anonymity was in any way odd. My bogus email [quoted text clipped - 40 lines] > sometimes things don't work out exactly like one might expect... I still use > the leaky mask though since it has prescription lenses in it... You folks understandably love diving (this is rec.scuba after all) and the points are well made. Really i'm just saying that we (as a family) focus on the things that we can do most readily (rockclimbing, paddling, etc.) since they are avail near us. I tend to be a pretty obsessive person, in the sense that if I get involved in something, I take it seriously and expect to become fairly proficient in it. At *this time* scuba doesn't work out for us in that it would be a once-a-year thing. In truth, I expect that to change when my kids are a couple of years older. As I said earlier, I grew up near the ocean, and water sports are close to my heart. Hey, I've been looking for a little trailerable sailboat (!)... One thing that has suprised me: I would think that given the growth of the sport (I assume it's growing as are all 'adventure sports'), you folks would be more likely to *discourage* weekend types! I would have thought you would not want your dive boats crowded with newbies. Assuming you're not economically benefiting from scuba, I'm kinda suprised I'm getting prodded into joining the ranks! As for the netiquette - point taken. It was not something I had considered. Change made. a <snip> > One thing that has suprised me: I would think that given the growth of the > sport (I assume it's growing as are all 'adventure sports'), you folks would > be more likely to *discourage* weekend types! I would have thought you > would not want your dive boats crowded with newbies. Assuming you're not > economically benefiting from scuba, I'm kinda suprised I'm getting prodded > into joining the ranks! Generally speaking, according to most of what I've read here, you can find boats that cater to small groups regardless. Many people here avoid "cattle boats" and most of the rest don't really seem to care much one way or the other. We generally encourage people to get started because we may get to meet you on a boat someday. It's a fairly regular occurrence for group members to get together and many members have met each other and formed some very good relationships. As far as the newsgroup goes, there's a lot of OT stuff and things can get a little hairy sometimes, but for the most part, it all stays right here on the ng (at least, as far as I can tell).. > You folks understandably love diving (this is rec.scuba after all) True, but politics, guns, alcohol, BBQ, and sex come in fairly close also... <grin> > At *this time* scuba doesn't work out for > us in that it would be a once-a-year thing. Once a year is better than NO times per year... > Hey, I've been looking for a little trailerable sailboat (!)... And then you'll want a larger one... And yet an even larger one... And then a truck or SUV large enough to pull it... And finally you'll end up with a boat at the local marina... It starts rather subtly with just a *single* boat... Just ask Lee... <evil-grin> > One thing that has suprised me: I would think that given the growth of the > sport (I assume it's growing as are all 'adventure sports'), you folks would > be more likely to *discourage* weekend types! Only ones with old lady's who aren't cute... <dirty-old-man-grin> There is also the issue of the custom of when you kill yourself, the person who recovers your body gets to keep your gear... <evil-grin> > I would have thought you would not want your dive boats crowded with > newbies. Nawh, it saves on the cost of chumming... > I've tried vaseline to seal provide a better seal and it works, but frankly > it's a drag - bleeech! Are there any masks perhaps that seem to seal better > with facial hair? Any other suggestions - other than shaving....? Scubapro frameless. As long as I keep my face cheeks shaved, as in beard shaped, rarely have leaks. Curtis >I've tried vaseline to seal provide a better seal and it works, but frankly >it's a drag - bleeech! Are there any masks perhaps that seem to seal better >with facial hair? Any other suggestions - other than shaving....? >thx Nair. Seal it up with Nair. >>I've tried vaseline to seal provide a better seal and it works, but frankly >>it's a drag - bleeech! Are there any masks perhaps that seem to seal better >>with facial hair? Any other suggestions - other than shaving....? >>thx > > Nair. Seal it up with Nair. Cruel. Very cruel. SignatureMore people died in Ted Kennedy's car than have been killed by my guns. > Nair. Seal it up with Nair. Well, it's a silicone mask, right? So use a silicone sealant... Just be sure to give it time to cure before going diving... <evil-grin |
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