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Scuba Forum / General / September 2004If I puke at 20 feet fsw, Do I ?
A question for any scuba expert here......if any remains around. If I puked coffee (breaskfast) at 20' fsw.............could I make damage to my stomach valve? Since I puked during a dive at Key Largo I have developed heartburn..............never before did I have that problem before. Is this possible or was I going to get the heartburn problem anyways........? My guess is that I could have damaged the valve tissue when I puked under those pressures such an acidic substance as coffee. Any medical opinion would be appreciated. I went to my doctor and he prescribed antiacid and to change my diet. BTW The reason I puked was that I saw another diver puke his breakfast through his regulator before (at the surface) and I could not get that image out of my mind on the second dive. That bastard could not make it to the second dive. > A question for any scuba expert here......if any remains around. > > If I puked coffee (breaskfast) at 20' fsw.............could I make > damage to my stomach valve? Have you checked with DAN? Y'might also want to see a gastroenterologist? http://www.gastro.org/ypages/disclaim1.html Dennis > Since I puked during a dive at Key Largo I have developed > heartburn..............never before did I have that problem before. [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > image out of my mind on the second dive. That bastard could not make > it to the second dive. > A question for any scuba expert here......if any remains around. > [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > image out of my mind on the second dive. That bastard could not make > it to the second dive. That is why you dive with a buddy, so you can puke through his backup second stage. No sense messing up your own. > Any medical opinion would be appreciated. > > I went to my doctor and he prescribed antiacid and to change my diet. You don't need a medical opinion, you need rec.scuba. Sometimes the hollow spaces in your body can be adversely affected upon varying the ambient pressure. Or maybe it's just greasy boat food and coffee and all the beer the night before. I recommend an antacid and perhaps changing your diet. > BTW The reason I puked was that I saw another diver puke his breakfast > through his regulator before (at the surface) and I could not get that > image out of my mind on the second dive. That bastard could not make > it to the second dive. And psychological counseling as well. If the other diver were to take his regulator out of his mouth at 100' and jet to the surface holding his breath, would you copy that behavior too? Get help before it's too late. >From: "Greg Mossman" mossman@qnet.com >Date: 9/22/2004 9:34 PM Eastern Daylight Time [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] >regulator out of his mouth at 100' and jet to the surface holding his >breath, would you copy that behavior too? Get help before it's too late. Everybody hates a sympathy puker. Popeye Man is certainly stark mad. He cannot even make a worm, and yet he will be making gods by the dozens. >>From: "Greg Mossman" mossman@qnet.com >>Date: 9/22/2004 9:34 PM Eastern Daylight Time [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > > Everybody hates a sympathy puker. He needs a dog. After having a dog with a bad case of diariha in the house, nothing can make me puke, except a good stomach virus or one too many (and that one is a variable number). > > > Popeye > Man is certainly stark mad. He cannot even make a worm, > and yet he will be making gods by the dozens.  Signaturedillon When I was a kid, I thought the angel's name was Hark and the horse's name was Bob. > Everybody hates a sympathy puker.... Almost as much as everybody hates a puker. If ya have an acid problem, especially reflux, the salt water and inverted position do aggravate it. I use Ranitidine. mike gray <scrubadub@att.net> wrote in news:wwC4d.419145$OB3.17139 @bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net: > If ya have an acid problem, especially reflux, the salt water and > inverted position do aggravate it. I use Ranitidine. Indeed. The predive scarfing of many Tumms is a ritual with me. Nothing worse than a big assed acid belch coming through the reg. > mike gray <scrubadub@att.net> wrote in news:wwC4d.419145$OB3.17139 > @bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net: [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Nothing worse than a big assed acid belch coming through the reg. I spell relief "Rolaids" Lee > I spell relief "Rolaids" "Tums"... Better flavors plus they are calcium based so that they also act as a calcium supplement... > A question for any scuba expert here......if any remains around. > > If I puked coffee (breaskfast) at 20' fsw.............could I make > damage to my stomach valve? Go ahead, feed the fish just keep your regulator in your mouth. Cam You don't go any further than 19feet.. > A question for any scuba expert here......if any remains around. LOL > If I puked coffee (breaskfast) at 20' fsw.............could I make > damage to my stomach valve? I'm not sure what you mean by your "stomach valve". There's an esophageal valve and a pyloric valve involved, actually... one going up toward your mouth and one going down toward your intestines. It is possible to injure both through vomiting. > Since I puked during a dive at Key Largo I have developed > heartburn..............never before did I have that problem before. As you know, there is pressure affecting your body during a dive. The mechanism that causes vomiting creates pressure that builds in your chest, causing spasms. That pressure then spreads to your abdomen and causes spasms there to create the vomiting. I suppose it's possible that some irritation to your esophagus occured if your body was already under pressure from the dive. You need to discuss your concerns with your doctor. > Is this possible or was I going to get the heartburn problem > anyways........? See above. You might be predisposed to the problem. Perhaps the problem was building already and this episode set it off. > My guess is that I could have damaged the valve tissue when I puked > under those pressures such an acidic substance as coffee. Your guess is the same as mine. Ask your doctor. > Any medical opinion would be appreciated. I'm an RN. The combined pressure may have irritated an already-building esophagitis. However, you need to ASK YOUR DOCTOR. > I went to my doctor and he prescribed antiacid and to change my diet. So do it. The med use and diet change may be temporary until you 'heal'... or it may be needed because you were headed there anyway and the dive incident just gave you a 'little push.' If your symptoms continue, then you should ask your doctor to consider the following : changing your med and ordering some tests that might show acid reflux problems and ulceration. An H-Pylori bacteria infection could also be a possible cause of your indigestion. And a less common condition is Eosinophilic Gastroenteritis, where antibodies cause the irritation from a type of allergic reaction that attacks the stomach. > BTW The reason I puked was that I saw another diver puke his breakfast > through his regulator before (at the surface) and I could not get that > image out of my mind on the second dive. That bastard could not make > it to the second dive. The reflex to vomit is a necessary one and it is not controllable, just like the reflex to jerk your knee when the doctor hits that spot. The vomit reflex is for our protection. The reflex can be brought on by illness, or by being subjected to bad food or too much of a food or drink, or by poison, or by a thought (as you had), or by a bad smell, or by touching the back of the throat. In those patients that I have cared for who have lost the vomit reflex, they usually have lost other vital reflexes too, such as the reflex to blink their eyes or the reflex to swallow. They are usually in a coma. The vomit reflex is controlled by a central part of our brains and it is life-sustaining. IOW, ain't no way around it as long as you're semi-coherent. Good luck to you. :) Thanks salty.........I will continue to consult my doctor. >> A question for any scuba expert here......if any remains around. > [quoted text clipped - 65 lines] > >Good luck to you. :)
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