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Scuba Forum / General / September 2004Oceanic Omega 2 haters, please read,,
I am looking for someone who has been on dives with the Oceanic Omega 2 and hates it. Please tell me what you don't like about these regulators. I am wondering if I have missed something. On one set of gear, I have a pair of Omegas. Main (clear body) and secondary air source (Bright orange body). On my other set of gear I have one Omega (neon yellow), and my secondary air source is my ScubaPro Air2 on my BCD. I like these regulators very much, but people come up to me and say "You got those Omegas, God I hate them". Any thoughts???? >From: hexter@blazenet.net (gudmundur) >Date: 9/19/2004 10:19 PM Eastern Daylight Time [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > Any thoughts???? Um, yeah. If you like 'em, tell everyone else to pound sand up the fat lady's a.s. Popeye Man is certainly stark mad. He cannot even make a worm, and yet he will be making gods by the dozens. hexter /gudmundur wrote: > <snip> > I like these regulators very much, but people come up to me and > say "You got those Omegas, God I hate them". Q: You're happy with them? Obviously you are. Then you've got the right regs. As long as you just do your diving nice and easy. But ... If you go to such extremes where regulator performance really becomes critical, then and only then you look into this item some more and maybe, just maybe, get yourself something else. But rest assured, most divers know, nor understand f*ck all about regulators. Still they dive. Still they survive But rest assured, most drivers know, nor understand f*ck all about fuel injection. Still they drive. Still they survive ad inf.  SignatureHES van Schoonhoven Life is a learning experience > >From: hexter@blazenet.net (gudmundur) > >Date: 9/19/2004 10:19 PM Eastern Daylight Time [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > Man is certainly stark mad. He cannot even make a worm, > and yet he will be making gods by the dozens. <snip> > Um, yeah. > > If you like 'em, tell everyone else to pound sand up the fat lady's a.s. That's exactly what I thought... well, maybe not exactly, but it was close enough. I used to have one of these but it constantly dribbled gas, even after several trips back to the LDS where I bought it from. Got rid of it & now only dive on Apeks. > I am looking for someone who has been on dives with the Oceanic > Omega 2 and hates it. Please tell me what you don't like about [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Any thoughts???? Why only Apex ? I used to have one of these but it constantly dribbled gas, even after several trips back to the LDS where I bought it from. Got rid of it & now only dive on Apeks > Why only Apex ? > > I used to have one of these but it constantly dribbled gas, even after > several trips back to the LDS where I bought it from. > > Got rid of it & now only dive on Apeks> I'm starting to see a trend here :-) > Why only Apex ? > > I used to have one of these but it constantly dribbled gas, even after > several trips back to the LDS where I bought it from. > > Got rid of it & now only dive on Apeks> The Apeks is a little over-priced and way over rated, but easy to self-maintain. It would be nice if they would make a reg that will stay in tune so ya can dump those knobs and levers. The old Oceanic showerheads were great regs, and when tuned right would stay rock steady for a few hundred dives. Also easy to modify for on-the-boat tuning. But it's getting impossible to get the parts to repair the flow-assist-thingy. Anyone want a couple, cheap? > > Why only Apex ? > > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > on-the-boat tuning. But it's getting impossible to get the parts to > repair the flow-assist-thingy. Anyone want a couple, cheap? A couple of the Oceanic showerheads or the parts to repair the flow-assist-thingy? > A couple of the Oceanic showerheads or the parts to repair the > flow-assist-thingy? If I can find the flow-assist-thingies, I'll rebuild em and use em. But if ya want the showerheads (new parts except the flow-assist-thingy), make me an offer. One has a never-used hose. > > A couple of the Oceanic showerheads or the parts to repair the > > flow-assist-thingy? [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > But if ya want the showerheads (new parts except the > flow-assist-thingy), make me an offer. One has a never-used hose. I was interested, but I've decided that my year and a half old regs are probably still fine for my purposes. Thanks anyway. >> A couple of the Oceanic showerheads or the parts to repair the >> flow-assist-thingy? [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >But if ya want the showerheads (new parts except the >flow-assist-thingy), make me an offer. One has a never-used hose. Are they working as is, or is the servo valve shot? As some had noted, mine did dribble bubbles to some very small extent. I did some polishing of the servo seat, and some light application of silicone O-ring lube to the outer edges of the servo valve, and they no longer dribble. What would you consider a reasonable offer? >>> A couple of the Oceanic showerheads or the parts to repair the >>> flow-assist-thingy? [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > to the outer edges of the servo valve, and they no longer dribble. > What would you consider a reasonable offer? When the servo (we techie types call it a "flow-assist-thingy") craps out, the reg still works but very very poorly. You can still take a slow easy breath, but that's it - like a tank valve barely cracked open. The dribble prolly has nothing to do with the servo. If you want to keep the cracking pressure right on the edge, ya drill a hole in the purge button so ya don't have to remove the cover to adjust the screw. I've got two, both have totally shot servos. Other than the servos they are good (one was rebuilt except the servo and not used since, including a new hose). We're talking just second stages here. The price of the new hose plus a few bucks for shipping and hassle would prolly get em out of my overflowing junk box. 30" hoses, I think. >> > Why only Apex ? >> > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] >> on-the-boat tuning. But it's getting impossible to get the parts to >> repair the flow-assist-thingy. Anyone want a couple, cheap? IMNSHO any reg that needs 'on the boat tuning', including Poseidon Cyclons, is generally to be avoided. How you can say that the Apeks are over priced is amazing! I assume that you only pay full retail and don't look out for any offers and are not willing to look out for good second-hand units; or maybe they are in your country? But I doubt they are as expensive as the equivalent Scubapro or Atomic regs, which are their obvious rivals. As Apeks was bough out by US Divers over two years ago, I doubt that they are much different in price in the US to the UK (probably cheaper if compared to all other dive gear,cars, etc). When I last looked, the Oceanic Omega 2nd stage (bought as an octopus), was MORE expensive than the Apeks TX or ATX40 octopus, and I KNOW which I'd rather dive with. Don't bother paying for the top-of-the range models as the basic valve components on ALL Apeks regulators from the TX40 right through to the ATX200 are identical (it's the same service kit for all the diaphragm based 1st stages from the US1 to ATX200); also look out for good prices on the older (and some say better) TX range, the best model is the TX100, as it's 'flat-head' 1st stage has the best hose routing, but the 40 & 50 are excellent as well. Finally, how can you say that they are 'over-rated' when only they and some Scubapro regs are chosen for ALL the deepest dives, including the record 300m (1000ft) dive made last year and also for the longest cave penetrations (WKPP & French caves). Their quality is in the simplicity, ruggedness and value for money of the valve, which is why they are the main choice over here in the UK of club divers, from those recently qualified to tri-mix. I certainly would not even consider a Oceanic 'showerhead' for a 90m (300ft) dive! > IMNSHO any reg that needs 'on the boat tuning', including Poseidon Cyclons, > is generally to be avoided. I agree, 100%. That's why ya should avoid Apeks or any other reg that has any kind of knobs or levers on it. |
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