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BJAMES1 - 23 Aug 2004 16:56 GMT
One word:

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Good Lord, had to do everything I could to stay awake.  One the positive side,
we've sold a lot of safety sausages, whistles and DiveAlerts recently :)

Let's see...no weights, a skin or 3 mil suit....salt water.  (for those of you
that haven't seen it, I won't say more but think about this when you see the
end of the film).

Be safe.

bj

chicago
nobody - 23 Aug 2004 17:34 GMT
Should we wait for it to come out on DVD or HBO?

> One word:
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> chicago
BJAMES1 - 23 Aug 2004 21:59 GMT
>Should we wait for it to come out on DVD or HBO?

HBO.  Unless someone lets you borrow the DVD.  

bj
Chicago
Dillon Pyron - 24 Aug 2004 04:16 GMT
>>Should we wait for it to come out on DVD or HBO?
>
>HBO.  Unless someone lets you borrow the DVD.  

From what I've heard, if it actually manages to hit HBO, you should
cancel to avoid paying for it.

>bj
>Chicago

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dillon

When I was a kid, I thought the angel's name was Hark
and the horse's name was Bob.

George Cathcart - 23 Aug 2004 18:02 GMT
>Let's see...no weights, a skin or 3 mil suit....salt water.  (for those of you
>that haven't seen it, I won't say more but think about this when you see the
>end of the film).
>
>  

That was my second biggest problem with it.

My biggest problem was that I didn't like the two characters.

They were yuppie snobs, too good for everyone else on the boat, totally
self-absorbed.

Yeah, kill 'em and eat 'em. Nobody will miss 'em.

gc
Dennis \(Icarus\) - 23 Aug 2004 18:24 GMT
> >Let's see...no weights, a skin or 3 mil suit....salt water.  (for those of you
> >that haven't seen it, I won't say more but think about this when you see the
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> Yeah, kill 'em and eat 'em. Nobody will miss 'em.

So in other words, the protagonists are the sharks? :-)

Dennis

> gc
George Cathcart - 23 Aug 2004 19:53 GMT
Dennis (Icarus) wrote:

>So in other words, the protagonists are the sharks? :-)
>
>Dennis
>  

Precisely.

As always.

And as it should be.
nitespark - 23 Aug 2004 20:33 GMT
>> Let's see...no weights, a skin or 3 mil suit....salt water.  (for
>> those of you
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> Yeah, kill 'em and eat 'em. Nobody will miss 'em.

Then feed whats left to the Baltimore Aquarium right?????
George Cathcart - 23 Aug 2004 21:37 GMT
>> My biggest problem was that I didn't like the two characters.
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> Then feed whats left to the Baltimore Aquarium right?????

No, we wouldn't do that.

We feed only restaurant quality seafood to our animals.

Yuppie scum would be trash.

Bycatch.

Good for crab pots.

Contact me off line, Sparky. You been to Lake Rawlings lately??

Cheers,

gc
nitespark - 27 Aug 2004 22:47 GMT
>>> My biggest problem was that I didn't like the two characters.
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>
> gc

George,
I sent you a private email.  Did it make it through???
Von Fourche - 24 Aug 2004 20:37 GMT
> They were yuppie snobs, too good for everyone else on the boat, totally
> self-absorbed.
>
> Yeah, kill 'em and eat 'em. Nobody will miss 'em.
>
> gc

   Funny thing is, all the reviews I've read from non scuba people have
been very positive.  Almost excellent reviews.  All the reviews from scuba
people have blasted this film.  Interesting.

   Anyway, yeah, the sharks can eat all the snobbish yuppie snobs.  I got
flamed for saying this a few weeks ago.  Of course I was only referring to
Hollywood make believe yuppies.  Real yuppies don't deserve to get ate up by
sharks, rather alligators and crocodiles should chow down on them. lol
James Smullins - 24 Aug 2004 21:48 GMT
>> They were yuppie snobs, too good for everyone else on the boat, totally
>> self-absorbed.
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> Hollywood make believe yuppies.  Real yuppies don't deserve to get ate up
> by sharks, rather alligators and crocodiles should chow down on them. lol

Gators prefer the stupid and foolish or at least thier kids. Every year or
so a kid gets eaten here.
one was a 5 year old who was allowed to play at
a lake in the weeds 100 feet from the parents. The kid never saw it
comming. The parrents trird to sue the city for not protecting the boy
from thier own stupidity. They lost.

Last year a 12 year old was killed here. Every body blamed the gator but
when I talked to the cops and rescue people that where called ( I know
several of them ) they said the boys had been throwing rocks at the gator
for two hours and then decided to go for a swim. The gators pea brain says
" revenge and a meal all in one " results one 12 year old dead.

The way I look at this and other attacks is each one leaves one less
stupid person to reproduce.

If you swim or play where wild animals feed then you get what you deserve.
If you tease a animal and it attacks you get what you deserve.

I did pity the 5 year old. His parrents should have been eaten not him.

Jim
Von Fourche - 24 Aug 2004 22:21 GMT
> Gators prefer the stupid and foolish or at least thier kids. Every year or
> so a kid gets eaten here.
> one was a 5 year old who was allowed to play at
> a lake in the weeds 100 feet from the parents. The kid never saw it
> comming. The parrents trird to sue the city for not protecting the boy
> from thier own stupidity. They lost.

   Every year or so?  I thought fatal alligator attacks in Florida happened
only once every twelve years or so.  I do remember during one of my visits
to Florida hearing about an incident that happened a few weeks before I
arrived, a little boy or girl was standing near the water and a gator jumped
out and grabbed the child by the belly, tore the belly out, and of course
the child died.  Sad.

   The only animals I really fear are alligators and crocodiles.  Maybe
that's because I have always heard their brain is the size of a walnut.
Lions, tigers, cape buffalos, cobras, rabid dogs, snakes, whales, etc...
don't frighten me that much.  But alligators and crocs, eeeek.
James Smullins - 25 Aug 2004 02:02 GMT
>> Gators prefer the stupid and foolish or at least thier kids. Every year
>> or so a kid gets eaten here.
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> Lions, tigers, cape buffalos, cobras, rabid dogs, snakes, whales, etc...
> don't frighten me that much.  But alligators and crocs, eeeek.

Actually aligators are pretty easy to read and predict so long as they
have been fed by people. Never dealy with the crocs in south Florida so
will not offer any advice there.

Rules to follow.

Never where white shoes near water. It looks to them to be egretts, cranes
ect. They will go after your feet never seeing the rest of you. Happened
to me one night. Learned the cause from a incedent at Disney when a kid
was bitten.

Splasing is a sure draw and is in fact the primary way they hunt. I do a
lot of wading while fishing in fresh water and salt and found a quit wade
they look at you and keep going.

If you see a rounded pile of leaves near water stay away. I stumbled on
one last summer while taking pictures of birds and nearly got nailed.

I have spent 20 years with these reptiles and have great respect but no
fear for them. If I see a lot of the food they eat around I go else where
and never directly invade thier space. Most run away if you aproach like
the one thats behind my shed with the high water. Try not to resemble or
act like food and odds are you wont be. And never feed wild life. That
goes for those shark dive charters as well. This is the leading cause of
wildlife attacks in the US.

Thinking about I may be bordering the fool I mentioned in an earlier post.

Jim
Whistler - 26 Aug 2004 04:30 GMT
> If you see a rounded pile of leaves near water stay away. I stumbled on
> one last summer while taking pictures of birds and nearly got nailed.

Any idea why?
Grumman-581 - 29 Aug 2004 16:59 GMT
> > If you see a rounded pile of leaves near water stay away. I stumbled on
> > one last summer while taking pictures of birds and nearly got nailed.
>
> Any idea why?

Nest...
David J. Apple - 25 Aug 2004 03:22 GMT
The best part of  the movie was the brief full frontal female nudity.
The rest just sucked.

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>Jim
Dillon Pyron - 24 Aug 2004 04:16 GMT
>One word:
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>that haven't seen it, I won't say more but think about this when you see the
>end of the film).

Umm, I think this is one spoiler that won't spoil anythig.

>Be safe.
>
>bj
>
>chicago

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When I was a kid, I thought the angel's name was Hark
and the horse's name was Bob.

punk - 24 Aug 2004 15:29 GMT
What struck me most about this flick was the very crude way they kept track
of the count. I've been on many cattle boats and they all took a count
before leaving the dive site, which is what that bonehead in the movie
should have done. How long does it take to count from 1 to 20? By the way,
it was supposed to be "based on true event" and I was wondering what and
where this "true event' supposedly happened.

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> chicago
Chris Guynn - 24 Aug 2004 16:02 GMT
> What struck me most about this flick was the very crude way they kept track
> of the count. I've been on many cattle boats and they all took a count
> before leaving the dive site, which is what that bonehead in the movie
> should have done. How long does it take to count from 1 to 20? By the way,
> it was supposed to be "based on true event" and I was wondering what and
> where this "true event' supposedly happened.

These days, they can say that simply because someone has been left behind.
The rest can be artistic license...
nobody - 24 Aug 2004 17:16 GMT
> What struck me most about this flick was the very crude way they kept track
> of the count. I've been on many cattle boats and they all took a count
> before leaving the dive site, which is what that bonehead in the movie
> should have done. How long does it take to count from 1 to 20? By the way,
> it was supposed to be "based on true event" and I was wondering what and
> where this "true event' supposedly happened.

An American couple left behind in Australia. Never found.

Bart F.
BllFs6 - 24 Aug 2004 17:23 GMT
>By the way,
>> it was supposed to be "based on true event" and I was wondering what and
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>Bart F.

And was a couple left in florida/keys as well and NOT found? Or am I
remembering that wrong?

And then wasnt there a couple left in florida/keys (again?!) that managed to
swim to a bouy/light marker and eventually wave someone down a day or so later?

Sure sound to me my a commited combination of d***, p*****, and coral is a BAD
combination in any case when it comes to diving!

Blll (staying single and sticking to wrecks!)
Fish
nobody - 24 Aug 2004 17:34 GMT
This stuff is covered in the latest issue of DiveAlert. It might be on
DAN's web site as well.

Bart F.

>>By the way,
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> Blll (staying single and sticking to wrecks!)
> Fish
nobody - 24 Aug 2004 17:39 GMT
Answering my earlier post, DAN writes:

Notable Strandings

    * February 1994. Six divers, including a dive guide, were stranded
and eventually died off Palau following a failed dive trip.
    * January 1998. Two American divers - the Lonergans, mentioned
above - were left off Port Douglas, Queensland, Australia. The two were
never found.
    * February 2000. Off Florida, two divers remained in the water
overnight. Clinging to a marker buoy, they survived and were picked up
by a fishing boat.
    * April 2004. One diver was left off Newport Beach, Calif. He was
located after about five hours.

Source: News & Events, No Fear: DAN Addresses Diver Strandings and
Offers Help By Dan Leigh, Managing Editor

http://www.diversalertnetwork.org/news/article.asp?newsid=444

And these are only the "notable" strandings.

Bart F.
S T E and L Kay - 25 Aug 2004 22:57 GMT
>Answering my earlier post, DAN writes:
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>Bart F.

Good article in September's Diver magazine.
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Hitech Redneck - 30 Aug 2004 19:49 GMT
The story is based on the experience of Tom and Eileen Lonergan, an
American couple left behind by their dive boat in the waters off
Queensland Australia.

> What struck me most about this flick was the very crude way they kept track
> of the count. I've been on many cattle boats and they all took a count
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>>chicago

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