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Scuba Forum / General / October 2003Greg Mossman - Where are the Fires
Are you still safe? If you are - damn! :-O > Are you still safe? > > If you are - damn! :-O My house is safe and sound. And with the current shortage of housing in the aftermath of the fires, hopefully the market will improve when I go to sell it in the near future. >My house is safe and sound. And with the current shortage of housing in the >aftermath of the fires, hopefully the market will improve when I go to sell >it in the near future. You don't want that unless you are downgrading. My boss is facing this problem. He bought his house for 400k He wants to upgrade. His house is now selling for about 1m. Problem is, the house he wants is going for about 2.2m. That's 1.2m out of pocket. When the market was depressed, his house would have gone for 700k. The house he wants would have gone for 1.5m. That's 800k out of pocket. What would you do with an extra $400,000 But I'm sure there will be some SWEET deals in "fire country" after people finish rebuilding. Been hearing on the news "We have to rebuild because the insurance payout isn't enough to leave, but after we rebuild we won't stay". Were I in the position to jump on it, I'd take advantage of it... those areas won't burn again for 20+ years. --- Rich http://richlockyer.tripod.com/ > >My house is safe and sound. And with the current shortage of housing in the > >aftermath of the fires, hopefully the market will improve when I go to sell [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > Were I in the position to jump on it, I'd take advantage of it... > those areas won't burn again for 20+ years. You just hope they rebuild in a fireproof manner or at least include a cellar thats fireproof where you can store stuff during an Evac. rhys >You just hope they rebuild in a fireproof manner or at least include a >cellar thats fireproof where you can store stuff during an Evac. Wooden roofs are the problem for the most part. I won't say that 100% of the lost homes had wooden roofs, but one neighborhood in San Diego reported a loss of 20+ homes, and among those levelled, 5 remained which had either clay tile or other fireproof roofs. --- Rich http://richlockyer.tripod.com/ On Wed, 29 Oct 2003 09:19:08 -0800, Rich Lockyer wrote ... >I won't say that 100% of the lost homes had wooden roofs, but one >neighborhood in San Diego reported a loss of 20+ homes, and among >those levelled, 5 remained which had either clay tile or other >fireproof roofs. I believe that the older houses in SoCal tended to have wooden roofs, but recent building codes seem to have pretty much changed that trend... Back 20 or 30 years ago, people looked at wooden roofs as a relatively permanent roof that didn't need replacing given proper maintenance... Actually, they don't end up being quite permanent, but do last a very long time compared to asphalt shingles... When I was over there a few years ago, I was checking out some of the new home construction and comparing it to what I know of home construction in this part of the country... Although I saw some older homes with wooden (cedar) roofs when I was driving around, all the new construction was using more fireproof materials... At that time, it seems that the roofing material of choice was some type of cement based product that could be formed to look like the rounded clay tile roofs or formed to look like slate roofs... Back when the cedar roofs were being used, there might have also been a view that it was a more ecologically sound (i.e. natural) type of roofing... Unfortunately, as many of the homeowners have learned, "natural" in SoCal is fire storms that burn up everything... Grumman-581 <grumman581@DIE-SPAMMER-SCUM.houston.rr.com> pounded away at his keyboard resulting in: : Back when the cedar roofs :were being used, there might have also been a view that it was a more :ecologically sound (i.e. natural) type of roofing... Ecological because you have to kill a tree to roof your house? Or ecolgical for another reason? Dan Bracuk If at first you don't succeed, you run the risk of failure. The Best of rec.scuba http://www.pathcom.com/~bracuk/RecScuba/ On Wed, 29 Oct 2003 18:41:48 -0800, Dan Bracuk wrote ... >Ecological because you have to kill a tree to roof your house? Or >ecolgical for another reason? I think it was because it was a renewable resource unlike whatever petrochemicals are used in asphalt shingles (which in turn don't last as long)... Although slate roofs are nice, I doubt that they would be considered a renewable resource... Concrete, on the other hand is somewhat renewable since it can be crushed and recycled... When I was over in New Orleans awhile back, I was surprised to find quite a few apartments that had a slate mansard type roof... They were probably over 20 years old though... My house is safe and sound. And with the current shortage of housing in the aftermath of the fires, hopefully the market will improve when I go to sell it in the near future. I always working an angle and trying to figure out how to screw your fellow man. I admire that in a person. Good Luck..... |
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