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english word for an underwater piece of rock formation ?
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Mario - 09 Aug 2004 11:13 GMT Hello,
I am not an English born language speaking.
Can you please tell me what is the most appropriate term or word for defining an underwater reef, which according to me isnt exactly a reef since it is mainly a formation of rocks with some marine life on it ?
Or sometimes is a extension of the coast itself but underwater.
What is the most appropriate word ? is it reef? is there something different than reef ?
What are sinonims of reef ?
Thanks,
Mario
viz - 09 Aug 2004 11:35 GMT > Hello, > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > Mario Bomborra??
/viz
Dave - 09 Aug 2004 12:34 GMT > Hello, > > I am not an English born language speaking. You are doing extremely well!!
> Can you please tell me what is the most appropriate term or word for > defining an underwater reef, which according to me isnt exactly a reef [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Mario A good place to start is on the BBC learning site, lots of interesting facts and pages: http://www.bbc.co.uk/learning/library/physical_geography.shtml
oh, and synonyms is usually spelt this way ;p
H. Huntzinger - 09 Aug 2004 12:46 GMT > Hello, > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > What is the most appropriate word ? is it reef? is there something > different than reef ? Shoal?
Rocks?
Pinnicle? (sic)
-hh
jim frei - 10 Aug 2004 20:33 GMT > > Hello, > > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Shoal? ok, but can also be a shoal composed of sand or mud.
> Rocks? like in a "pile of"? how about ledge?
> Pinnicle? (sic) Pinnacle...sure...same as mound.
Reef can refer to coral, lava, or rocks. Usually its hard enough to wreck a boat.
H. Huntzinger - 11 Aug 2004 12:29 GMT > > Shoal? > > ok, but can also be a shoal composed of sand or mud. ...or fish :-)
> Reef can refer to coral, lava, or rocks. Usually its hard enough > to wreck a boat. Good point. Recalling navigational maps, the "thing you can bump that will sink your boat" that doesn't get the reef symbol are shipwrecks.
-hh
Morten Reistad - 06 Sep 2004 18:16 GMT >> Hello, >> [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > >Pinnicle? (sic) Any sub-surface formation that can harm boats can be called a reef; and this is normally what is marked in maps.
I also have a vote for what the aussies call a coral head; "Bommie". Comes from aboriginal languages.
-- mrr
taz - 09 Aug 2004 13:06 GMT > Hello, > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > Mario An outcrop? taz.
Jon C - 09 Aug 2004 13:17 GMT > Hello, > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > Mario A reef can be made of just about anything. A coral reef is made of coral, but they can be made of rocks. A reef is defined as a strip of something [rocks, coral, sand, whatever] that is relatively close to the surface compared to the actual seafloor.
A shoal, on the other hand, is where the seaflor itself is relatively shallow compared to the surrounding seafloor.
Michael MB - 09 Aug 2004 15:25 GMT > Hello, > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > Mario Coral Bomb/bombie
Forest Aten - 09 Aug 2004 16:45 GMT > Hello, > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > Mario The word reef has different meaning to different people... [Late 16th century. From Dutch rif , of uncertain origin: perhaps from Old Norse rif "rib, ridge."]
In general a "reef" is an "obstruction to navigation". It could be "rocks with some marine life on it", or the organic "reef" of calcium carbonate, (we call the "coral reef")....or just about anything else lying in water shallow enough to create "an obstruction to navigation".
Forest Aten
Anders Arnholm - 10 Aug 2004 08:46 GMT > The word reef has different meaning to different people... > [Late 16th century. From Dutch rif , of uncertain origin: perhaps from Old > Norse rif "rib, ridge."] The Swedish Academy Word Book gives that the Swedish word "rev" elrier was spelled as reff (1577) ref(f)va (1613) and is related to the islandic word ref, danish rev. This wor5d was then probaly moved into dutch as rif and you english probaly got it that way as reef.
This word means an underwaterformation reklativlty close to the surface so that even in relativ calm water the sea breaks over it. A reef could also stretch to be above the water level in some cases. (Mostly offshore).
There is a guess that this word is related to an other swedish word (rev) meaning rib (bone). This word was erlier spelled rif, is spelled rif in other nordic languanges) and also is part of old saxian as rib(bi). Another interesting relation is to the french cöte (coast) from the latin costa, e.g. rib-bone.
/ Balp
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Chucky B - 10 Aug 2004 02:48 GMT I think the appropriateness depends on what you are looking at, I think rock formation is a pretty good description, as is mound, pile, slab (one large, flat rock), ridge, outcrop, ledge etc etc. and reef also.
A reef does not necessarily refer to coral, although that's the common terminology in diving. Think of coral reef, rocky reef, man made reef etc.
You can also further describe the rock as rubble, boulders, gravel, lava deposits, bedrock, and if man made as ruins remains etc etc. That's the beauty of language, there are many ways to describe even the most simple things as underwater rocks!
-Chucky
> Hello, > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > Mario Reef Fish - 10 Aug 2004 12:31 GMT > A reef does not necessarily refer to coral, You got that right, Chucky. Nor is reefer necessarily one who reefs.
http://www.webster-dictionary.org/definition/reefer
> > What are sinonims of reef ? Bob?
Would you settle for synonyms or words related to reefer?
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Hope this helps, Mario.
-- Bob. You can call me Reef.
Chucky B - 12 Aug 2004 06:38 GMT I used to enjoy a little reefer madness...
now I'm more mad for reefs...
> > A reef does not necessarily refer to coral, > [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > > -- Bob. You can call me Reef. Adam Helberg - 10 Aug 2004 03:37 GMT > Hello, > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > Mario It's a rock reef.
Jer - 10 Aug 2004 05:47 GMT > Hello, > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > Mario The really hard part under the zincs.
 Signature jer email reply - I am not a 'ten' "All that we do is touched with ocean, yet we remain on the shore of what we know." -- Richard Wilbur
skozzy - 13 Aug 2004 16:10 GMT Well in the marine reef keeping hobby, we refer to a single rock as live rock, and more then one rock is live rocks. If it is a formation (natural or man made) it's still a formation. So, I would say, Your looking at a formation of live rocks.
> Can you please tell me what is the most appropriate term or word for > defining an underwater reef, which according to me isnt exactly a reef > since it is mainly a formation of rocks with some marine life on it ? Lee Bell - 14 Aug 2004 01:26 GMT > Can you please tell me what is the most appropriate term or word for > defining an underwater reef, which according to me isnt exactly a reef > since it is mainly a formation of rocks with some marine life on it ? It's a reef. If you look up reef, I think you'll find that the term covers a lot more than coral reefs. My dictionary defines it as a ridge of rocks, sand or debris, close to the surface. Coral is not a requirement.
Lee
chilly - 14 Aug 2004 07:03 GMT > > Can you please tell me what is the most appropriate term or word for > > defining an underwater reef, which according to me isnt exactly a reef [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > a lot more than coral reefs. My dictionary defines it as a ridge of rocks, > sand or debris, close to the surface. Coral is not a requirement. If it was, there'd be no need to define it by calling it a "coral" reef.
;^)
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