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Scuba Forum / General / July 2004undersea walking
While on vacation, I took an undersea walk and I found it to be really fun in Nassau Bahamas. I never went SCUBA, but is it similar? I went to this place: http://www.underseawalk.com . I even bought an underwater case for my digital camera. Here is one of the photos I took: http://www.allie.com/images/20040723.jpg . Is it common for SCUBA divers take photos? Also, how well of a swimmer must you be to start SCUBA? I can't find a site that gives me very basic FAQs, does anyone know of any? Thanks! -Larry www.allie.com > While on vacation, I took an undersea walk and I found it to be really fun > in Nassau Bahamas. I never went SCUBA, but is it similar? I went to this > place: http://www.underseawalk.com . I even bought an underwater case for my > digital camera. Here is one of the photos I took: > http://www.allie.com/images/20040723.jpg . Is it common for SCUBA divers > take photos? VERY. Also, how well of a swimmer must you be to start SCUBA? You don't need to be a fantastic swimmer but you should be comfortable in the water. Most dive shops will do a Discover Scuba demonstration with you and you should be able to tell if you would like it and ask questions. I can't > find a site that gives me very basic FAQs, does anyone know of any? I asked Google to find me sites for "scuba diving FAQ" and got 266,000 answers. Jeanne > While on vacation, I took an undersea walk and I found it to be really fun > in Nassau Bahamas. I never went SCUBA, but is it similar? I've never done the undersea walk, but with scuba you have freedom of movement and your very own air supply. Check out a local dive shop, they may offer a "discover scuba" day where you can try it out if you are thinking you may want to become certified. If you state your general location, someone may be able to make a suggestion. I went to this > place: http://www.underseawalk.com . I even bought an underwater case for my > digital camera. Here is one of the photos I took: > http://www.allie.com/images/20040723.jpg . Is it common for SCUBA divers > take photos? It's very common to take photos or videos. Also, how well of a swimmer must you be to start SCUBA? You don't have to be a great swimmer to dive. If you are comfortable being in the water, and you can swim a few laps in a pool and tread water for a few minutes you should be fine. I can't > find a site that gives me very basic FAQs, does anyone know of any? Some basics can be found here http://scuba.about.com/cs/beginners/a/utlearnscuba.htm These are some certifying agencies: http://www.ssiusa.com/ http://www.naui.org/index-side.html http://www.ymcascuba.org http://padi.com/ Here is the scuba faq: http://www.faqs.org/faqs/scuba-faq/ > Thanks! > > -Larry > www.allie.com >You don't have to be a great swimmer to dive. If you are comfortable >being in the water, and you can swim a few laps in a pool and tread >water for a few minutes you should be fine. You have to be able to swim 200m with no time limit for PADI Open Water.  SignatureRichard Faulkner >>You don't have to be a great swimmer to dive. If you are comfortable >>being in the water, and you can swim a few laps in a pool and tread >>water for a few minutes you should be fine. > >You have to be able to swim 200m with no time limit for PADI Open Water. There are a few "comfortable in water" tests that seem pretty common in all agencies. A short swim, floating, surface dive to a shallow depth, etc. Signaturedillon When I was a kid, I thought the angel's name was Hark and the horse's name was Bob. >> You don't have to be a great swimmer to dive. If you are comfortable >> being in the water, and you can swim a few laps in a pool and tread >> water for a few minutes you should be fine. > > You have to be able to swim 200m with no time limit for PADI Open Water. Well, that's what the standards say. I think very few instructors enforce that. I know mine didn't, and he wasn't even PADI. If an instructor is not concerned about the standards, aren't they taking risks and jeapordizing my safety? Sorry to sound paranoid. -Larry www.allie.com > >> You don't have to be a great swimmer to dive. If you are comfortable > >> being in the water, and you can swim a few laps in a pool and tread [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Well, that's what the standards say. I think very few instructors > enforce that. I know mine didn't, and he wasn't even PADI. > If an instructor is not concerned about the standards, aren't they taking > risks and jeapordizing my safety? Sorry to sound paranoid. > > -Larry > www.allie.com Perhaps. In the case of the amount of laps you can swim, I think it is more important to be able to think clearly and logically when you are faced with a problem or an unusual circumstance, and that isn't exactly on the standards. Seriously, give good thought to the person who will teach you how to dive. After the certification dives, and even during to some great extent, who will be responsible for you? I learned that I am always responsible for my own safety. I had good instructors, though. Sometimes it's ok to be a little paranoid. >>> You don't have to be a great swimmer to dive. If you are >>>comfortable being in the water, and you can swim a few laps in a pool [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >Well, that's what the standards say. I think very few instructors >enforce that. I know mine didn't, and he wasn't even PADI. Mine did, and I definitely wasnt sure that I could do it <g> Having said that, he didnt watch too closely, so I could probably have cheated, and I obviously dont know what he would have done if I had failed <g>. SignatureRichard Faulkner My NAUI instructor, and all the NAUI instructors I know, require 400 meters, no time limit. NAUI standards are also 200 meters, but good instructors set higher standards. PADI would probably charge an extra fee to do the extra 200 meters. gc >>> You have to be able to swim 200m with no time limit for PADI Open >>> Water. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Mine did, and I definitely wasnt sure that I could do it <g> I'd throw a fit if I could meet the general requirements of the agency but not the "higher standards" arbitrarily set by the instructor. >"George Cathcart" <gcathcar@nospam.umd.edu> wrote in message news:ce60v0$439$1@grapevine.wam.umd.edu... >My NAUI instructor, and all the NAUI instructors I know, require 400 meters, no time limit. >NAUI standards are also 200 meters, but good instructors set higher standards. >PADI would probably charge an extra fee to do the extra 200 meters. > >gc Or you could find another instructor. A lot of people do. But those who meet the higher standards have met higher standards. In my book that counts for something. gc >I'd throw a fit if I could meet the general requirements of the agency but >not the "higher standards" arbitrarily set by the instructor. > > > Or you could find another instructor. A lot of people do. And pay for the class all over again? > But those who meet the higher standards have met higher standards. > > In my book that counts for something. I agree. At the same time, if you've met the minimum standards, you've met the minimum standards. I've got no problem with an instructor who pushes the students to achieve more than the course requires (in fact, I applaud it), but I do have a problem with an instructor who doesn't pass those students who have met the minimum requirements. > gc > > >I'd throw a fit if I could meet the general requirements of the agency but > >not the "higher standards" arbitrarily set by the instructor. If you failed to meet the minimum standards on the swim test, I think most instructors would give you your money back. The ones I know do. The other standards are not different from agency standards. gc > > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >And pay for the class all over again? > That's good to know that I would get my money back if I fail. -Larry www.allie.com > If you failed to meet the minimum standards on the swim test, I think > most instructors would give you your money back. The ones I know do. The [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > > >And pay for the class all over again? > That's good to know that I would get my money back if I fail. > > -Larry > www.allie.com He said that the instructors he knows would give you your money back if you couldn't pass the swim test. That would be *before* you completed other parts of the instruction; not after you'd failed the whole course. > > Or you could find another instructor. A lot of people do. > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > it), but I do have a problem with an instructor who doesn't pass those > students who have met the minimum requirements. I thought we were talking about instructors that passed a student, just because the student told the instructor that they could pass the swimming test. Wasn't that the discussion a few posts back? > > > Or you could find another instructor. A lot of people do. > > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > because the student told the instructor that they could pass the swimming > test. Wasn't that the discussion a few posts back? Perhaps, but then someone pointed out that they knew instructors who had more stringent requirements than their agency and I said I'd pitch a fit if I met the agency standards but didn't pass the course because the instructor had arbitrarily raised the standards for his class. "Chris Guynn" <chris.guynn@sbcglobal.N.O.S.P.A.M.net> wrote in message news:IVANc.21274> > I thought we were talking about instructors that passed a student, just > > because the student told the instructor that they could pass the swimming > > test. Wasn't that the discussion a few posts back? [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > I met the agency standards but didn't pass the course because the instructor > had arbitrarily raised the standards for his class. Sorry, I guess I missed a post. So perhaps an instructor will try to rencourage his/her students meet more stringent standards, but I suspect you are correct, they shouldn't be able to keep them from passing (based only on the agency standards, that is). I'm not trying to start a whole new ad nauseum discussion on what the standards should be. ;^) <snip> > Sorry, I guess I missed a post. So perhaps an instructor will try to > rencourage his/her students meet more stringent standards, but I suspect you > are correct, they shouldn't be able to keep them from passing (based only on > the agency standards, that is). Yeah, we covered that as well. I voiced my approval of setting higher standards for the students, but felt that they should pass the course as long as they could meet the minimum standards (whatever the agency may deem them to be). >> You don't have to be a great swimmer to dive. If you are comfortable >> being in the water, and you can swim a few laps in a pool and tread >> water for a few minutes you should be fine. > > You have to be able to swim 200m with no time limit for PADI Open Water. Hhmm, some of us did and others of us...got certified anyways. >>> You don't have to be a great swimmer to dive. If you are comfortable >>> being in the water, and you can swim a few laps in a pool and tread [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Hhmm, some of us did and others of us...got certified anyways. Oh, this makes it sound like I am PADI certified and I am not, just that some of us completed 7 laps of the pool and others didn't but still got certified. The instructor merely relied on our honesty in reporting our progress to him.
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