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Scuba Forum / General / July 2004Most Common Serious Problem?
Just wondering, are there any serious problems that divers face while at depth that are more common than others? In other words, when a diver has a serious problem at say 60 feet, what is the problem likely to be? Besides sunburn. > Just wondering, are there any serious problems that divers face while at > depth that are more common than others? For new divers, it can be as simple as panic. >In other words, when a diver has a > serious problem at say 60 feet, what is the problem likely to be? Besides > sunburn. Not likely to experience much sunburn at 60'. > > Just wondering, are there any serious problems that divers face while > at > > depth that are more common than others? > > For new divers, it can be as simple as panic. But more likely to be an equalization problem. > Just wondering, are there any serious problems that divers face while at > depth that are more common than others? In other words, when a diver has a > serious problem at say 60 feet, what is the problem likely to be? Besides > sunburn. Heart attack. anything... JP > Just wondering, are there any serious problems that divers face while at > depth that are more common than others? In other words, when a diver has a > serious problem at say 60 feet, what is the problem likely to be? Besides > sunburn. > Just wondering, are there any serious problems that divers face while at >depth that are more common than others? In other words, when a diver has a >serious problem at say 60 feet, what is the problem likely to be? Besides >sunburn. cramps, full bladder and running out of film.  Signaturedillon When I was a kid, I thought the angel's name was Hark and the horse's name was Bob. >> Just wondering, are there any serious problems that divers face while >> at [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >> > cramps, full bladder and running out of film. 2 kinds of people. Those who piss in their wetsuits and those who lie about it. > 2 kinds of people. Those who piss in their wetsuits > and those who lie about it. Nawh, a third type of person -- those who only piss in rental wetsuits... <snicker> > > 2 kinds of people. Those who piss in their wetsuits > > and those who lie about it. > > Nawh, a third type of person -- those who only piss in rental wetsuits... > <snicker> Hmmmm, what about the other two types........those with P valves, and those who "Depends" on something else? Curtis > > 2 kinds of people. Those who piss in their wetsuits > > and those who lie about it. > > Nawh, a third type of person -- those who only piss in rental wetsuits... > <snicker> Actually, I was wondering about this just last night. Is it a big NO NO to release bodily fluids in a wetsuit? And that leads me to another question - pissing at 60 feet or more. Can it be done? > > > 2 kinds of people. Those who piss in their wetsuits > > > and those who lie about it. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Actually, I was wondering about this just last night. Is it a big NO NO > to release bodily fluids in a wetsuit? It was one of the first things taught (off the record) as a quick way to warm up. > And that leads me to another > question - pissing at 60 feet or more. Can it be done? Easily (as Popeye mentioned, internal and external pressures are essentially the same). > It was one of the first things taught (off the record) as a quick way > to warm up. Agreed, there are few things in this world that feel as good as a healthy whiz just below the thermocline. On the other hand, I once read that you lose a store of heat. But I ignored it. > > > 2 kinds of people. Those who piss in their wetsuits > > > and those who lie about it. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Actually, I was wondering about this just last night. Is it a big NO NO > to release bodily fluids in a wetsuit? Ummm... if it's your wetsuit, no. If it's a rental, it's frowned on, but (almost?) everyone does it. > And that leads me to another > question - pissing at 60 feet or more. Can it be done? It can be at 45. Unfortunately, that's the deepest I've been so far. I hope to fix that before too long. On a happy note, it looks as though I'll actually get to go diving this weekend. Yippee for me. I'm having a reunion of sorts with some folks from my OW class that I haven't seen in about 2 years. > > > 2 kinds of people. Those who piss in their wetsuits > > > and those who lie about it. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > to release bodily fluids in a wetsuit? And that leads me to another > question - pissing at 60 feet or more. Can it be done? It's quite OK to pee while diving. After all the sea animals do it and no one complains. If I have to pee I give the index finger sign to my buddy not to be disturbed. It's one of the advantages over a dry suit. Adam You can take a dump at 250' if you have to. I suggest you get out of your wetsuit first if you're wearing one. As for pissing in your wetsuit, make sure you wash it good when you're done. > > > 2 kinds of people. Those who piss in their wetsuits > > > and those who lie about it. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > to release bodily fluids in a wetsuit? And that leads me to another > question - pissing at 60 feet or more. Can it be done? > > Just wondering, are there any serious problems that divers face while at > >depth that are more common than others? In other words, when a diver has a > >serious problem at say 60 feet, what is the problem likely to be? Besides > >sunburn. > > > cramps, full bladder and running out of film. How common is it for a regulator to free flow? Also, are there any statistics on how many people actually need to use their dive buddies extra second stage because their own regulators have failed or they simply ran out of air? Is this a common occurrence? And finally, any numbers on how many fatalities from scuba diving every year? Like, compared to rock climbers or sky divers? <snip> > And finally, any numbers on how many fatalities from scuba diving every > year? Like, compared to rock climbers or sky divers? I don't have any statistics, but I bet Aflac does. They offer an accidental injury policy that basically covers everything rock climbing. We specifically asked about scuba and they said "Yep... it's covered." I'd guess that means that their actuarial tables tell them that you are more likely to receive an injury rock climbing than scuba diving. Just an observation from the peanut galary. >> > Just wondering, are there any serious problems that divers face while >at [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >second stage because their own regulators have failed or they simply ran out >of air? Is this a common occurrence? Checking my wife's log book. 288 dives, one (very dramatic) regulator failure. I don't know anyone else who has had any significant (ie life threatening) problems. > And finally, any numbers on how many fatalities from scuba diving every >year? Like, compared to rock climbers or sky divers? DAN publishes a report every year on fatalities. Signaturedillon When I was a kid, I thought the angel's name was Hark and the horse's name was Bob. > >> > Just wondering, are there any serious problems that divers face while > >at [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > failure. I don't know anyone else who has had any significant (ie > life threatening) problems. I've got more dives than that, and fewer regulator failures of that severity. I've had one malfunction, but that was the result of me misadjusting lever height (i.e., screwing around with something I had no business screwing around with at the time. I've since learned a bit about regulator adjustment). That mistake resulted in me making the dive on my backup (but on the plus side, it also forced me to make a 60 minute dive on a Sherwood Shadow, and showed me the flaws in the "backup on the BC hose" style rig). Alan > > And finally, any numbers on how many fatalities from scuba diving every > >year? Like, compared to rock climbers or sky divers? > > DAN publishes a report every year on fatalities. >>>>> Just wondering, are there any serious problems that divers face while >>> [quoted text clipped - 36 lines] >> >>DAN publishes a report every year on fatalities. I have that many or a few more never experienced nor seen one. > How common is it for a regulator to free flow? Also, are there any >statistics on how many people actually need to use their dive buddies extra >second stage because their own regulators have failed or they simply ran out >of air? Is this a common occurrence? Free-flows never happen to me or mine in thousands of dives or to my friends and acquaintances in tens of thousands of dives. They can happen, but they are nothing more than a nuisance. There is no shortage of breathable air unless you are too dull to execute the obvious ascent that such an event indicates. John Bennett had one on his decompression mix at over 400 feet deep, no help, no backup, and several hours of deco remaining, including over a half hour on the malfunction tank. He manually operated the tank valve, breath by breath, until he got to the next rig. safe diving, bullshark > Just wondering, are there any serious problems that divers face while at There is only one serious problem and it is hardly ever faced by anyone. That problem is: "Can't return to surface". Everything else is minor. safe diving, bullshark I think it's a toss up between sharks and Giant Squid trying to eat you. > Just wondering, are there any serious problems that divers face while at > depth that are more common than others? In other words, when a diver has a > serious problem at say 60 feet, what is the problem likely to be? Besides > sunburn. > I think it's a toss up between sharks and Giant Squid trying to eat you. Giant squid, 40 to 1 Thanks for clearing that up. "mike gray" > > I think it's a toss up between sharks and Giant Squid trying to eat you. > > Giant squid, 40 to 1 >I think it's a toss up between sharks and Giant Squid trying to eat you. I'm more concerned about getting hit by a submarine. >> Just wondering, are there any serious problems that divers face while >at >> depth that are more common than others? In other words, when a diver has >a >> serious problem at say 60 feet, what is the problem likely to be? Besides >> sunburn. Signaturedillon When I was a kid, I thought the angel's name was Hark and the horse's name was Bob. Submarine hits are an old wives tale, the hull creates a pressure wave infront of you that throws you aside. > >I think it's a toss up between sharks and Giant Squid trying to eat you. > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > >> serious problem at say 60 feet, what is the problem likely to be? Besides > >> sunburn. >Submarine hits are an old wives tale, the hull creates a pressure wave >infront of you that throws you aside. Okay, but I'll bet the prop hurts, if only for a second. >> >I think it's a toss up between sharks and Giant Squid trying to eat you. >> [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >Besides >> >> sunburn. Signaturedillon When I was a kid, I thought the angel's name was Hark and the horse's name was Bob. |
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