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Scuba Forum / General / June 2004Cozumel Water
I am heading to Coz in a few days for a week of diving. (my earlier plans to go to Belize fell through) Our group will be staying at the Reef Club Isle Cozumel Beach Resort. I have been told "not to drink the water". Guess my questions are for others who have been there (especially recently). Is this still the case??? I am going to assume you do not even want ice in your drinks. I was even told to use bottled water to brush your teeth. So is the bottled water safe there or should I bring some with me??? My package is all inclusive, including alcoholic beverages. Andy > I am heading to Coz in a few days for a week of diving. > (my earlier plans to go to Belize fell through) [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Andy Do not drink tap water. Bottled water is everywhere and safe. Ice cubes are made from purified water and are safe. You will probably be told that it is safe to brush with tap water as long as you don't swallow. I play it safer and brush with bottled water. Resorts generally supply all rooms daily with bottled water. All inclusive will include bottled water. >>I am heading to Coz in a few days for a week of diving. >>(my earlier plans to go to Belize fell through) [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > Resorts generally supply all rooms daily with bottled water. > All inclusive will include bottled water. Thanks. That clarifies a lot for me. I am planning on taking a good supply of immodium just in case. >>>I am heading to Coz in a few days for a week of diving. >>>(my earlier plans to go to Belize fell through) [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] >Thanks. That clarifies a lot for me. I am planning on taking a good >supply of immodium just in case. My doc recommends a pepto every morning.  Signaturedillon When I was a kid, I thought the angel's name was Hark and the horse's name was Bob. > My doc recommends a pepto every morning. Bad advice. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. If you're gonna try to fix it anyway, at least take something that will work. Best advice: get over it. After you get the runs a few times, your body will be practically immune. I haven't had turista in years even though I zealously eat salads, brush my teeth with tap water, gargle in the shower, everything but actually drinking the stuff straight. Coming back from Ecuador recently, I didn't suffer any intestinal problems until after I was back in the States for a couple days. I guess I got too used to it. > > My doc recommends a pepto every morning. > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > Ecuador recently, I didn't suffer any intestinal problems until after I was > back in the States for a couple days. I guess I got too used to it. I got away with doing that until I got too cocky and started drinking the tapwater in India. I think I even got away with that, but then ate a 'pizza' in a 'Western' restaurant in Delhi (Indians are clean in their own restaurants, probably because they rely on repeat customers) and suffered a severe case of the eponymous Belly. I called the results the Giardia diet, as I've never been skinnier. Benedict. SignatureAdd the 'co' to reply >I am heading to Coz in a few days for a week of diving. >(my earlier plans to go to Belize fell through) [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > >My package is all inclusive, including alcoholic beverages. After a lot of discussion about this topic last winter, on my last trip down there in February I asked several of my native friends. They all agreed that tap water is for washing, showering, and flushing toilets. It is NOT considered potable. The only exception I heard to that was one person who said her gardener sometimes would drink from the hose. (But he likes Sol a lot more... ;-) Bottom line is that even the locals drink bottled water. You should definitely use bottled water to brush your teeth, and ONLY rinse your tooth brush in bottled water. Also keep your mouth firmly shut in the shower. Most resorts will tell you that their tap water is purified, and it probably is. But on my trip on the Nekton Pilot I met a couple who got sick in Cozumel after drinking resort tap water (which they had been told was safe). They weren't alone, and when the complained they were told the filtration system have been off-line for most of one day... So while the chances are that the resort's tap water is safe, there will be days once in a while when it is not. I've been told by my Mexican friends that they consider the way the big all-inclusive resorts handle food and drink to be "gross". Watch out for open bowls of "rum punch" that the tourist in line in front of you sticks his thumb into after coming out of the wash room, and the "quart" size bottles of beer they sometimes fill your glass from (and that they took a swig from when nobody was looking). Be sceptical of buffets that have food sitting open and not properly refrigerated or kept hot. Local restaurants are typically safer because they rely on repeat business from locals. Bottled water (just make sure it is sealed) and ice cubes are NOT a problem. Ice comes from the same plants that bottle water. SignatureRemove preceding and trailing X from username for replies (Sorry, but I'm SICK of spam...) > I have been told "not to drink the water". > Guess my questions are for others who have been there (especially > recently). Is this still the case??? I am going to assume you do not > even want ice in your drinks. I was even told to use bottled water to > brush your teeth. So is the bottled water safe there or should I bring > some with me??? The old "boil it, cook it, peel it or forget it" applies down there. Get a prescription for Cipro and take it with you. Bottled water is ok from reliable sources, but don't buy it on the street. al > My package is all inclusive, including alcoholic beverages. So why will you need water? SignatureIf you don't go there, you will never know what is there. I ain't looking for trouble,.....but you can find it here. >> My package is all inclusive, including alcoholic beverages. > > So why will you need water? Brushing his teeth with tequila would be an unpleasant way to start the day. >>>My package is all inclusive, including alcoholic beverages. >> >>So why will you need water? > > Brushing his teeth with tequila would be an unpleasant way to > start the day. I see no problem with that. It's a vacation after all.... SignatureIf you don't go there, you will never know what is there. I ain't looking for trouble,.....but you can find it here. > Brushing his teeth with tequila would be an unpleasant way to > start the day. Speaking from personal experience or is this just an assumption? <grin> >>>My package is all inclusive, including alcoholic beverages. >> >>So why will you need water? > > Brushing his teeth with tequila would be an unpleasant way to > start the day. Especially if the worm gets hung up on the toothbrush! > >> My package is all inclusive, including alcoholic beverages. > > > > So why will you need water? > > Brushing his teeth with tequila would be an unpleasant way to > start the day. You prefer rum? >> >> My package is all inclusive, including alcoholic beverages. >> > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > You prefer rum? To tequila? Yes, but not for brushing. >>> My package is all inclusive, including alcoholic beverages. >> >> So why will you need water? > >Brushing his teeth with tequila would be an unpleasant way to >start the day. Just call it a continuation of the night before. Signaturedillon When I was a kid, I thought the angel's name was Hark and the horse's name was Bob. >> My package is all inclusive, including alcoholic beverages. > > So why will you need water? Cause if I drink too much alcohol, I can't read my gauges..... (thats my story and I'm stickin' with it) > Cause if I drink too much alcohol, I can't read my gauges..... > (thats my story and I'm stickin' with it) We had a "off duty fellers night out" at my place a while back. We took turns doing double shots, then hitting the nastigmus (spelling?) and breath-a-lyzer. 7 shots into it, I was passing the FST, but blowing a .16 to a .18. Poor Ade, with her big eyes, was flopping the nastigmus after only two shots, blowing a .1 We then payed the "you aint arresting me!" games. I showed them the ones I wont post, and then they showed me the pain compliance moves, which are very effective. We decided to stop before the OC came out. Speaking of which, do you use the stuff from Fox Labs? >>Cause if I drink too much alcohol, I can't read my gauges..... >>(thats my story and I'm stickin' with it) > > We had a "off duty fellers night out" at my place a while back. Ah....around here we call that choir practice. > We took turns doing double shots, then hitting the nastigmus (spelling?) and > breath-a-lyzer. Breathalyzer???? You had your own breathalyzer??? or was it one of the small field testing devices??? You are thinking of the Horizontal Gaze Nystagmus. Probably one of the most accurate field tests for determining intoxication. > 7 shots into it, I was passing the FST, but blowing a .16 to a .18. Not me... I would probably flunk them at a .04 > Poor Ade, with her big eyes, was flopping the nastigmus after only two > shots, blowing a .1 > > We then payed the "you aint arresting me!" games. I showed them the ones I > wont post, and then they showed me the pain compliance moves, which are very > effective. We decided to stop before the OC came out. Probably a wise move. (To stop the escalation). The ER people can get a bit testy with those clients that come in pre-anesthetized. > Speaking of which, do you use the stuff from Fox Labs? Fox Labs??? Have not heard of those folks. You referring to OC??? I carry the 10% foam manufactured by a place called Defense Technology Federal Laboratories. > > We had a "off duty fellers night out" at my place a while back. > > Ah....around here we call that choir practice. All of them divers as well, it was a really good time. The difference you can see in these guys after a weekend of diving, relaxing and unwinding is huge. I think it would be wise for departments to budget similar activities for stress relief. Nothing fancy (they sleep on pads on my floor) and we barbeque. No one is spending a lot of money, and everyone has fun. > Breathalyzer???? You had your own breathalyzer??? or was it one of the > small field testing devices??? One of the small field units. > You are thinking of the Horizontal Gaze Nystagmus. Probably one of the > most accurate field tests for determining intoxication. That's the one. Seemed to work real well on everyone but me, and probably only me because I didnt give much time between shots. Once I crossed the threshold, it was over. I am one of those that can drink 6 drinks and be OK, but number 7 is like all of them at once. > > We then payed the "you aint arresting me!" games. I showed them the ones I > > wont post, and then they showed me the pain compliance moves, which are very > > effective. We decided to stop before the OC came out. > > Probably a wise move. (To stop the escalation). The ER people can get > a bit testy with those clients that come in pre-anesthetized. Yeah, I have a Brother that is charge nurse in the ER. He hates it when they bring in people who have been sprayed. They are already cobative, ususally under the influence, and of course, covered with snot. > > Speaking of which, do you use the stuff from Fox Labs? > Fox Labs??? Have not heard of those folks. You referring to OC??? I > carry the 10% foam manufactured by a place called Defense Technology > Federal Laboratories. I'll e-mail you. Scott >>>We had a "off duty fellers night out" at my place a while back. >> [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > for stress relief. Nothing fancy (they sleep on pads on my floor) and we > barbeque. No one is spending a lot of money, and everyone has fun. Sounds like a typical choir practice. So aside from getting lubricated, did anyone do any diving? >>Breathalyzer???? You had your own breathalyzer??? or was it one of the >>small field testing devices??? > > One of the small field units. Actually most of those things are pretty accurate. We (I) calibrate ours once a month. The thing you have to be careful of, is make certain it is cleared of all alcohol before administering a subsequent test. It only takes a few minutes to do that, but if you don't the results will be cumulative. Most places refer to them as PBT's (Preliminary Breath Tests). We use the Intoximeter brand Alcosensor III model. >>You are thinking of the Horizontal Gaze Nystagmus. Probably one of the >>most accurate field tests for determining intoxication. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > threshold, it was over. I am one of those that can drink 6 drinks and be OK, > but number 7 is like all of them at once. Actually, what probably happened in that scenario was you consumed the alcohol so fast, the previous shots had'nt fully absorbed into your bloodstream until #7. (Just guessing from your description) > Yeah, I have a Brother that is charge nurse in the ER. He hates it when they > bring in people who have been sprayed. They are already cobative, ususally > under the influence, and of course, covered with snot. And remember most of them ride in the back of the vehicle we have to drive for 12 hours a day. >>>Speaking of which, do you use the stuff from Fox Labs? > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > I'll e-mail you. > Got it. Thanks. I am going to pass it along to the powers that be. > Sounds like a typical choir practice. So aside from getting lubricated, > did anyone do any diving? Minimum 3 a day, and usually a night dive also. > Actually most of those things are pretty accurate. We (I) calibrate > ours once a month. The thing you have to be careful of, is make certain > it is cleared of all alcohol before administering a subsequent test. It > only takes a few minutes to do that, but if you don't the results will > be cumulative. Most places refer to them as PBT's (Preliminary Breath > Tests). We use the Intoximeter brand Alcosensor III model. I googled it, and that is indeed the unit. > Actually, what probably happened in that scenario was you consumed the > alcohol so fast, the previous shots had'nt fully absorbed into your > bloodstream until #7. (Just guessing from your description) That was probably correct. > And remember most of them ride in the back of the vehicle we have to > drive for 12 hours a day. "What do you do with the a.sholes that are spitting and combative, screaming and kicking in the back?" "You know, a lot of deer and dogs cross the road..." > Got it. Thanks. I am going to pass it along to the powers that be. Denada. If it works out for you, all the better. We will need a field report upon first use. >>Sounds like a typical choir practice. So aside from getting lubricated, >>did anyone do any diving? > > Minimum 3 a day, and usually a night dive also. Quite respectable. >>Actually most of those things are pretty accurate. We (I) calibrate >>ours once a month. The thing you have to be careful of, is make certain [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > That was probably correct. Back in the dark ages when I was first certified on the Breathalyzer 900A, we had all sorts of theories, formulas, metric conversions, etc etc we had to learn. One was known as the Widmark formula, where you could use various factors and figure, pretty closely, a person's BAC. I remember they would throw all sorts of trick questions at us. Such as intermixing standard units and metric units. I always passed but it was MUCH harder than it is today. >>And remember most of them ride in the back of the vehicle we have to >>drive for 12 hours a day. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > We will need a field report upon first use. I printed out the web page and gave it to my boss. Gotta be careful with anything that has to do with use of force so if we do go to it, it will have to be checked out carefully. > Back in the dark ages when I was first certified on the Breathalyzer > 900A, we had all sorts of theories, formulas, metric conversions, etc [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > intermixing standard units and metric units. I always passed but it was > MUCH harder than it is today. 1) There is a reason why the stop was inititated. 2) You look and smell wasted. 3) > I printed out the web page and gave it to my boss. Gotta be careful > with anything that has to do with use of force so if we do go to it, it > will have to be checked out carefully. Just dont volunteer to be the test subject... >>Back in the dark ages when I was first certified on the Breathalyzer >>900A, we had all sorts of theories, formulas, metric conversions, etc [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > 1) There is a reason why the stop was inititated. Yup....called "PC" (and that doesnt stand for politically correct) > 2) You look and smell wasted. More "PC" > 3) Actually, I was speaking of passing the test the certified me to run the tests. Back then the 900A used glass ampoules that contained a mixutre of sulfuric acid, potassium dichromate, (and something else that slips my mind). The mixture had a yellowish tint to it and reacted with the alcohol that changed the tint. The 900A measured the amount of change and converted it into a BAC number. >>I printed out the web page and gave it to my boss. Gotta be careful >>with anything that has to do with use of force so if we do go to it, it >>will have to be checked out carefully. > > Just dont volunteer to be the test subject... It isn't a matter of volunteering. If we go to something like that, we usually have to take a "hit" of it so we know how to react if we get a dose. I have been OC'ed several times. > > Just dont volunteer to be the test subject... > > It isn't a matter of volunteering. If we go to something like that, we > usually have to take a "hit" of it so we know how to react if we get a > dose. I have been OC'ed several times. OK, well, that sucks. Be sure to get the Sudecon wipes... >>>Just dont volunteer to be the test subject... >> [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > OK, well, that sucks. Be sure to get the Sudecon wipes... REALLY cleared out the sinuses though. :) > >>>Just dont volunteer to be the test subject... > >> [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > REALLY cleared out the sinuses though. :) CS also works to clear the sinuses, and has a shorter recovery time. -hh > Back in the dark ages when I was first certified on the Breathalyzer > 900A, we had all sorts of theories, formulas, metric conversions, etc [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > intermixing standard units and metric units. I always passed but it was > MUCH harder than it is today. So what's my BAC? Um, right now? (snip) >>Back in the dark ages when I was first certified on the Breathalyzer >>900A, we had all sorts of theories, formulas, metric conversions, etc [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > (snip) | | | | | | | | _______| |_______ | | | __ __ __ | | | | | | | | | | |__| |__| |__| | | | | | | | | | | |__| |__| |__| | |__________________| Just put your lips on the breath test tube on your computer screen and I will run a "cybertest". > > So what's my BAC? Um, right now? > > [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > Just put your lips on the breath test tube on your computer screen and I > will run a "cybertest". Applying lips . . . exhaling . . . . > Applying lips . . . exhaling . . . . Is it just me, or is it getting warm in here? > > > So what's my BAC? Um, right now? > > > [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > Applying lips . . . exhaling . . . . Not that tube... >>>So what's my BAC? Um, right now? >>> [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > Applying lips . . . exhaling . . . . GEEZ!!! You broke the damn thing!!! > >>>So what's my BAC? Um, right now? > >>> [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > > GEEZ!!! You broke the damn thing!!! Hey!! No fair, it was broken when it arrived! <snip> > > Fox Labs??? Have not heard of those folks. You referring to OC??? I > > carry the 10% foam manufactured by a place called Defense Technology > > Federal Laboratories. > > I'll e-mail you. I'm interested. Drop me a line too if you don't mind. C Guynn > <snip> > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > C Guynn Should be there now. Scott > > <snip> > > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Scott Got it. Thanks. I sent it to the chief for review. > I am heading to Coz in a few days for a week of diving. > (my earlier plans to go to Belize fell through) [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Andy I spent a week in Cozumel at end of Feb staying in a Bed and Breakfast. We drank bottled water (from large jugs) and never got sick without taking any pills. Taking preventative drugs is also not risk free. Adam
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