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Dan - 31 May 2004 21:17 GMT
I am guessing this must have been covered a million times before so my
apologies to all of you, but I am a newbie. I want to learn to dive and need
to get certified. Can anyone spell out the differences between PADI and NAUI
certification and any advantages or disadvantages that may derive from each
one? If it matters, I am located in Los Angeles and if anyone has any
recommendations on a place to get some training and certification, I would
be very grateful.

Many thanks

Dan
nospam@all.please.net - 31 May 2004 21:50 GMT
> I am guessing this must have been covered a million times before so my
> apologies to all of you, but I am a newbie. I want to learn to dive and need
> to get certified. Can anyone spell out the differences between PADI and NAUI
> certification and any advantages or disadvantages that may derive from each
> one?

There are none that matter.
Larry Anta - 31 May 2004 21:54 GMT
> [...] Can anyone spell out the differences between PADI and NAUI [...]

It's quite simple really.  PADI is P-A-D-I, while NAUI is N-A-U-I.  Hope
this helps.  Cheers!
Alan Street - 31 May 2004 22:25 GMT
> I am guessing this must have been covered a million times before so my
> apologies to all of you, but I am a newbie. I want to learn to dive and need
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>
> Dan

PADI's bigger, NAUI's older. There are good and bad instructors in both
organizations, although being the largest and having the loosest
standards, there are more bad PADI instructors than anywhere else. LA's
a big city, so it's hard to recommend a small shop that's close to you
without knowing where you live in the LA area. However, regardless of
where you live, I'd avoid Sports Chalet. I've found they're too focused
on selling you gear and accessories you don't need, and they don't tend
to hire the best and the brightest. PADI allows you to become an
instructor with a little as 100 dives, and Sports Chalet is the place
most likely to hire these "100 dive wonders."

There are a few LA area divers who hang out on rec.scuba. If you let us
know where you live, they might be able to recommend a good shop. You
could also post your question to diver.net or scubadivernet.com. These
are two SoCal based diving discussion boards.

hth

Alan
mike gray - 31 May 2004 23:50 GMT
> I am guessing this must have been covered a million times before so my
> apologies to all of you, but I am a newbie. I want to learn to dive and need
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> recommendations on a place to get some training and certification, I would
> be very grateful.

Ask around locally for the best instructor in yer area. Take whatever
certification he gives you. Never look back. Enjoy.
Dan - 02 Jun 2004 00:38 GMT
My thanks for those who answered helpfully. Since it seems that a good
instructor and a good shop is what I should be looking for, can I ask for
some  reccommendations? I am in Santa Monica, i.e. directly west of Los
Angeles.

Also, is it worth buying used equipment or is this a sport where one should
just stump up the money to buy everything new?

Thanks again,

Dan
Alan Street - 02 Jun 2004 00:48 GMT
> My thanks for those who answered helpfully. Since it seems that a good
> instructor and a good shop is what I should be looking for, can I ask for
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>
> Dan

Try Reefseekers in Beverly Hills. Ken's a bit of a self promoter, but a
better than average instructor and someone who will help you keep the
excitement about the sport.

Used equipment is fine. Just make sure your mask fits well.
mike gray - 02 Jun 2004 01:32 GMT
> Also, is it worth buying used equipment or is this a sport where one should
> just stump up the money to buy everything new?

Like Popeye said, rent or borrow for a while.

You do need a good mask. There is no relationship between quality and
price, the only thing that counts is fit. In case you missed that, the
only thing that counts is fit.

You'll need a snorkel. Buy the cheapest one you can find. At a garage sale.

You'll need fins. Best to borrow both open (strap & booties) and closed
fins, see what suits you best. Then buy a low priced pair.

Rent/borrow the rest until you have some experience and know where you
will be going with the sport.

Good luck and have fun.
Peter Filcek - 02 Jun 2004 21:56 GMT
> You do need a good mask. There is no relationship between quality and
> price, the only thing that counts is fit. In case you missed that, the
> only thing that counts is fit.

Definitely get a good mask.

> You'll need a snorkel. Buy the cheapest one you can find. At a garage sale.

If you go on holiday to the beach a lot you might want to consider a better
snorkel that that- something that has a regulator style silicon mouthpiece
and maybe a valve at the bottom. Also snorkelling is a fun thing to do on
your surface intervals.

> You'll need fins. Best to borrow both open (strap & booties) and closed
> fins, see what suits you best. Then buy a low priced pair.

If you're doing open water diving then you really need open heel fins as
these will allow you to wear wetsuit or drysuit boots and you'll be a lot
warmer- they are generally better designed than closed heel fins as well.

> Rent/borrow the rest until you have some experience and know where you
> will be going with the sport.

Sound advice.
Mask, snorkel, fins and boots are going to be your initial purchases so get
them when you can and look at the rest as you get experience.

Have fun with it- resist the temptation to get hung up on what gear you dive
with!
Wayne Bjorken - 08 Jun 2004 21:51 GMT
Dan;

It's the instructor that counts.

Wayne
www.springdivers.com

> I am guessing this must have been covered a million times before so my
> apologies to all of you, but I am a newbie. I want to learn to dive and need
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>
> Dan
 
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