Yesterday I had a mask on and I was swimming into a capsized sailboat to
retrieve things and I suddenly got an odd pressure in one of my ears
followed by a sharp pain just above my left eye The sailboat is by the shore
in 10 feet of water so I was not swimming deep but I tend to be sensitive to
water pressure so that may be a moot point. After the pain showed up I could
not even put my head two feet under water before the pain became
excruciating. I quit swimming at that time. On dry land the pain continued
to annoy me for the next 4 hours and then became maddening for about 3 more
hours and then slowly started to subside. It was such a weird pain in my
head that I was considering going to the hospital right as it began to
slowly ease off. This morning it is still there but nothing like it was so I
am assuming what ever caused it is on the way out. Someone told me it was
likely a "squeeze". I have no diving experience at all so I am completely
unfamilier with the hidden dangers of diving and any terminology associated
with it. What happened? A wayward bubble in a sinus or water behind my eye?
What is a "squeeze"? My eye was not and has not become bloodshot. As I
stated it has subsided and I am confident that it is going away but aside
from being painful the whole thing has been a bit scary. How dangerous is
something like that? Is there a way to avoid it in the future? Thank you for
your time.
A
mike gray - 23 May 2004 16:38 GMT
> Yesterday I had a mask on and I was swimming into a capsized sailboat to
> retrieve things and I suddenly got an odd pressure in one of my ears
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> something like that? Is there a way to avoid it in the future? Thank you for
> your time.
The problem with shallow diving is that the pressure differential is
dramatic. i.e. from 10 feet to the surface is a reduction of roughly
1-(19.1/14.7) or 30% while from 200 feet to 190 feet is only, roughly,
1-(103.8/99.4) or a little over 4%.
I hate real shallow dives because they beat hell out of my ears and sinuses.
Sounds to me like a reverse squeeze (the air got in at 19.1 psi but
could not escape when you returned to 14.7 psi ambient) in yer sinus
and/or ear. Very painful, but since the pain has subsided and you still
have hearing (?) yer prolly fine. How many fingers am I holding up?
nospam@all.please.net - 23 May 2004 18:23 GMT
>> Yesterday I had a mask on and I was swimming into a capsized sailboat to
>> retrieve things and I suddenly got an odd pressure in one of my ears
>> followed by a sharp pain just above my left eye The sailboat is by the shore
>> in 10 feet of water so I was not swimming deep but I tend to be sensitive to
>> water pressure so that may be a moot point.
As others have pointed out, shallow depth changes can be harder on you.
>>After the pain showed up I could
>> not even put my head two feet under water before the pain became
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> and/or ear. Very painful, but since the pain has subsided and you still
> have hearing (?) yer prolly fine. How many fingers am I holding up?
Every reverse squeeze I've had was relieved, not exacerbated, by descending.
Also, my upper teeth felt like they were going to jump out of my head.
I think the OP did some minor damage by not equalizing. A visit to the doc
won't hurt, but there's likely nothing to be done but wait and take aspirin.
Dillon Pyron - 23 May 2004 16:51 GMT
>Yesterday I had a mask on and I was swimming into a capsized sailboat to
>retrieve things and I suddenly got an odd pressure in one of my ears
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>
>A
You have what is called "the dread bends". You are likely already
dead, so I'm not quite sure why I'm replying.

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Alan S - 23 May 2004 18:10 GMT
Nope, still kickin', but thanks for the concern.
> >Yesterday I had a mask on and I was swimming into a capsized sailboat to
> >retrieve things and I suddenly got an odd pressure in one of my ears
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> You have what is called "the dread bends". You are likely already
> dead, so I'm not quite sure why I'm replying.
Joe English - 23 May 2004 18:33 GMT
> Nope, still kickin', but thanks for the concern.
>
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>>You have what is called "the dread bends". You are likely already
>>dead, so I'm not quite sure why I'm replying.
How 'bout that guy Art - you know - your Father?
Dillon Pyron - 23 May 2004 23:45 GMT
>> Nope, still kickin', but thanks for the concern.
>>
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>>
>How 'bout that guy Art - you know - your Father?
Who? Art in Heaven?

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Joe English - 24 May 2004 02:14 GMT
>>>Nope, still kickin', but thanks for the concern.
>>>
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>
> Who? Art in Heaven?
yea - that guy
Wayne - 29 May 2004 18:42 GMT
> >>>You have what is called "the dread bends". You are likely already
> >>>dead, so I'm not quite sure why I'm replying.
> >>
> >How 'bout that guy Art - you know - your Father?
>
> Who? Art in Heaven?
Just so long as you don't confuse him with Gladly (the cross-eyed bear) ;-)
w.
bjeanneb - 29 May 2004 19:02 GMT
What a pleasant thread in contrast to the usual testosterone-driven rants.
Yes, I understand that now I will be castigated. That's OK. I just wanted
to cast a vote for the voice of reason and amiability.
Jeanne
Grumman-581 - 29 May 2004 19:08 GMT
> I just wanted to cast a vote for the voice of reason and amiability.
Your vote was wasted... <grin>
bjeanneb - 29 May 2004 20:54 GMT
That's OK. I feel better now.
Jeanne
> > I just wanted to cast a vote for the voice of reason and amiability.
>
> Your vote was wasted... <grin>
Crownfield - 29 May 2004 19:34 GMT
> What a pleasant thread in contrast to the usual testosterone-driven rants.
> Yes, I understand that now I will be castigated. That's OK. I just wanted
> to cast a vote for the voice of reason and amiability.
>
> Jeanne
Jeanne:
there is no place for reason and amiability here. :)
Welcome back.
bjeanneb - 29 May 2004 20:56 GMT
I find enough of it to warrant my hanging around.
Jeanne
> > What a pleasant thread in contrast to the usual testosterone-driven rants.
> > Yes, I understand that now I will be castigated. That's OK. I just wanted
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>
> Welcome back.
R Benner - 23 May 2004 17:28 GMT
> Yesterday I had a mask on and I was swimming into a capsized sailboat to
> retrieve things and I suddenly got an odd pressure in one of my ears
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>
> A
A visit to your doctor would not be a bad idea.
Charlie Hammond - 24 May 2004 16:16 GMT
>> Yesterday I had a mask on and I was swimming into a capsized sailboat to
>> retrieve things and I suddenly got an odd pressure in one of my ears
>> followed by a sharp pain just above my left eye ...
..
>A visit to your doctor would not be a bad idea.
A damn sight better than asking here!
At least CALL your doctor.

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nobody - 24 May 2004 16:17 GMT
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> Yesterday I had a mask on and I was swimming into a capsized sailboat to
> retrieve things and I suddenly got an odd pressure in one of my ears
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>
> A
Geoff - 24 May 2004 19:51 GMT
>Yesterday I had a mask on and I was swimming into a capsized sailboat to
>retrieve things and I suddenly got an odd pressure in one of my ears
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
>
>A
A mask "squeeze" is what happens when you don't vent a little air from your
nostrils into the mask to keep the water pressure from squeezing the mask and
compressing the air inside it as you descend. This can cause sinus pain when
the air in the mask compressed by the water at depth causes pressure on the
lower pressure air in your sinuses if you don't equalize.
Once you equalize your air spaces on descent the air in your sinuses and ears is
at the pressure at that depth. Subsequently, a reverse block in your sinus can
cause you pain if the sinus becomes obstructed with mucous and can't vent that
compressed air at the surface. The pressure of the air spaces in your head are
now greater than the air around you due to the block.
Sudden sharp pain, dizziness, bleeding, loss of hearing in that ear might be
indicators that you perforated your eardrum. You should see your doctor and
describe your symptoms and he can look at your tympanic membranes to be sure you
didn't rupture them.
Alan S - 25 May 2004 06:37 GMT
Thanks to everyone for the information, it was interesting to learn. Over
the last couple of days everything has equalized and I feel fine. It never
happened before but it is certainly something I will be aware of for the
future. Don't tell Dillon but I'm gonna get him a set of these for
christmas: http://www.fu-fme.com/index.html
Cheers!
A
> >Yesterday I had a mask on and I was swimming into a capsized sailboat to
> >retrieve things and I suddenly got an odd pressure in one of my ears
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> describe your symptoms and he can look at your tympanic membranes to be sure you
> didn't rupture them.
Dillon Pyron - 25 May 2004 15:54 GMT
>Thanks to everyone for the information, it was interesting to learn. Over
>the last couple of days everything has equalized and I feel fine. It never
>happened before but it is certainly something I will be aware of for the
>future. Don't tell Dillon but I'm gonna get him a set of these for
>christmas: http://www.fu-fme.com/index.html
Very good Gonna keep the M model? :-)
Seriously, the best thing to have done would have been to see your
doc. At the very least he could have given you some good drugs. It
may have been a simple mask squeeze, but I know of at least one person
who developed a sinus infection that was probably related to a
squeeze.

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