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qanda - 03 May 2004 15:14 GMT

Hi all, this should get you ranting :)

Given the following objectives (which are listed highest priority
first) which 3 dive agencies would you choose to be certified to DM
with; assume a rich relative will pay if you complete the training.

1. Safety first, for yourself and buddy and the divers you are
responsible for.
2. To have above average knowledge in all aspects of diving.
3. To have the 3 DM certifications recognised worldwide so you could
travel the world working as a DM.

I don't have a rich relative and don't want to travel the world as a
DM, my question is to see what the majority of readers would consider
as the best 3 dive agencies to train and crosstrain with to achieve
the given objectives. Maybe only 1 or 2 agencies are needed but what
I'm looking for is what everyone considers to be the best 3 agencies
they know of to achieve the objectives.

Cheers.

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mike gray - 03 May 2004 15:20 GMT

> Hi all, this should get you ranting :)
>
> Given the following objectives (which are listed highest priority
> first) which 3 dive agencies would you choose to be certified to DM
> with; assume a rich relative will pay if you complete the training.
> Cheers.

1. PADI

2. NAUI

3. BSAC

What's to rant about?

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Michael Wolf - 03 May 2004 15:23 GMT

>> Hi all, this should get you ranting :)
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> What's to rant about?

1. CMAS

2. BSAC

3. NAUI

Yeah, why rant...

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qanda - 03 May 2004 19:44 GMT

> >> Hi all, this should get you ranting :)
> >>
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> Yeah, why rant...

don't know really, thought it would get a few of the regulars fired up.
BSAC and NAUI in both lists - any more offers?

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Popeye NCAT3 - 03 May 2004 16:56 GMT

>From: fumail@freeuk.com (qanda)
>Date: 5/3/04 10:14 AM Eastern Daylight Time
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>Cheers.

1) IANTD.

Why?

Because it's the cheapest and fastest.

Either you can dive, or you can't, and no existing DM training, and hence the
card, really has any bearing on that little fact.

Any place in the civilized world will recognize it.

2 & 3) Default, probably PADI and BSAC, depending on # of members. I doubt
that there's a more widely recognized card than PADI, and I -assume- that BSAC
will cover where PADI won't.

No cards have any bearing on 1&2 of your criteria, unless they start issuing
them for common sense and experience.

I note that the Cal shop that ditched the diver last week was a "PADI 5 Star
Facility"!

Whoo Hoo!

Popeye
The Power! \ /

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Lee Bell - 03 May 2004 18:39 GMT

> Given the following objectives (which are listed highest priority
> first) which 3 dive agencies would you choose to be certified to DM
> with; assume a rich relative will pay if you complete the training.

> 1. Safety first, for yourself and buddy and the divers you are
> responsible for.

None of them. Safety first is a diver and DM characteristic, not a dive
organization one.

> 2. To have above average knowledge in all aspects of diving.

None of them. I've done quite a bit of reading of materials from various
agencies and, as near as I can tell, all are seriously lacking and, worse,
lacking in different ways. The path to knowledge is the quest for knowledge
and that's a diver and dM characteristic, not a dive organization one.

> 3. To have the 3 DM certifications recognised worldwide so you could
> travel the world working as a DM.

PADI, NAUI, SSI

> I don't have a rich relative and don't want to travel the world as a
> DM, my question is to see what the majority of readers would consider
> as the best 3 dive agencies to train and crosstrain with to achieve
> the given objectives. Maybe only 1 or 2 agencies are needed but what
> I'm looking for is what everyone considers to be the best 3 agencies
> they know of to achieve the objectives.

It's the professionals that represent the agencies that makes the
difference. All of the non technical agencies have some very good
instructors and some very poor ones. All of the non technical agencies
have some very good DMs and some very poor ones. That's just how it is,
always has been and is likely to continue to be.

Lee

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Randy Buckner - 05 May 2004 20:32 GMT

> Hi all, this should get you ranting :)
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> Cheers.

No course will give you what you are looking for in the first two
requirements. That comes from self-effort by reading, learning from
experienced divers, and applying what you've learned to a multitude of dives
in various environs. PADI will give you the third if you are looking for
name recognition. BTW, CMAS - Conf?d?ration Mondiale des Activit?s
Subaquatiques - CMAS 3* is the same as a Divemaster.

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