I'm looking to buy a new regulator set and am between two different models.
There is a $140 difference in the price between them but the lower cost unit
has a 2 year warranty whereas the more expensive unit includes a lifetime
parts warranty.
My question is , how much would I expect to pay for parts on a first/ second
regulator set each year? I only expect to use the unit for about 4 years
beyond the 2 year warranty of the cheaper unit so I figure the breakeven cost
of parts is $35/yr. Would I expect the parts cost to be significantly
different than that?
R Benner - 01 May 2004 01:12 GMT
> I'm looking to buy a new regulator set and am between two different models.
> There is a $140 difference in the price between them but the lower cost unit
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> of parts is $35/yr. Would I expect the parts cost to be significantly
> different than that?
Which models are you looking at.
I would be more concerned about the reputation than the warranty. The
warranty will not do you any good if it fails while diving.
Any chance you can try them out first? How well do they breathe? Are they
color coordinated with the rest of your kit? Its important to look cool.
Steve - 01 May 2004 05:27 GMT
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> There is a $140 difference in the price between them but the lower cost unit
> has a 2 year warranty whereas the more expensive unit includes a lifetime
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> of parts is $35/yr. Would I expect the parts cost to be significantly
> different than that?
A warranty won't necessarily cover parts that are supposed to be replaced as a matter
of routine. Unless the cheaper reg comes with free parts for two years the break
even cost is $23.33 for each of 6 years, and the best source of info on the cost of
the parts is the person you'll be buying them from. Assuming both regs have equal
performance, the cost of annual servicing might be a good criteria, but otherwise it
should be a secondary consideration. If you keep the reg longer the annual cost will
drop for the one with free parts. At least in theory, annual service and a lifetime
warranty mean the reg will continue to perform for much longer than 6 years, so why
makes plans for retiring it before you even buy it?

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Ed - 01 May 2004 15:18 GMT
>I'm looking to buy a new regulator set and am between two different models.
>There is a $140 difference in the price between them but the lower cost unit
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>of parts is $35/yr. Would I expect the parts cost to be significantly
>different than that?
without knowing the warranty details, and the annual service costs per
unit it's hard to tell.
But why guess ... the folks you're buying from should be able to
define the annual out of pocket for both units
if both regs meet your needs (not comparing apples and oranges)
a lifetime warranty might be a good idea
**IF**
1) it includes annual service parts (labor extra)
and
2) you get the reg serviced according to the warranty requirements
.. this might limit your choice of service locations and would
eliminate self-service. Some annual parts paid units need to go back
to the mfg, some allow specific dealers to deal with the annual.
3) you don't miss a scheduled service point (which will void the
lifetime warranty)
4) you intend to keep the reg for a long time. ( not your plan )
You expect 6 years on the reg ?
If after that time you intend to dispose ... without the real out of
pocket cost breakdown, I'd personally ignore the lifetime warranty
as a deciding factor.
It wouldn't eliminate the reg from my selection process, a lifetime
warranty wouldn't be important in my decision in that case.
If you intend to sell it after 6 yrs ... and IF the warranty is
transferrable it might be worth the cost for resale value (?) might
not recover your extra cost, but it might sell the reg easier.
one of my regs has been with me for 26 yrs. Would have been a good
candidate :) Actually it might have a lifetime warranty but I'd be
hard pressed to prove I paid for annual service along the whole 26
years.
- Ed
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Reef Fish - 01 May 2004 18:24 GMT
> I'm looking to buy a new regulator set and am between two different models.
> There is a $140 difference in the price between them but the lower cost unit
> has a 2 year warranty whereas the more expensive unit includes a lifetime
> parts warranty.
That's a good start at the question of cost-benefit analysis!
The answer depends very much on many factors pertaining to YOUR diving,
or expected diving during your life time.
For ME, two factors dominate:
1. A regular is the single most-important piece of one's life=
support dive equipment.
2. The cost of a SINGLE dive trip of mine (nearly all of them) far
exceeded the most-expensive regular in the market.
Given those two considerations, the answer was quite simple for me --
I bought the best (at the time; still among the best) available at
the market -- Scubapro Mark 10 (1st stage) with a G250 2nd stage),
which had all the desirable characteristics and ratings in NEDU
testings (late 1980s) of a few dozen regulators.
The reputation of the company (Scubapro) as well as its history in
honoring in the "life time warranty" also came into play. A life
time warranty of a product by a company whose life time may be less
than 2 years may be one of your points of consideration. :-)
In any event, the G250/Mk10 combo served me well, in OUR life times.
Scubapro had already replaced them (under the life time warranty
coverage) almost 10 years ago, when the 1st stage began having
corrosion problems after about 1,000 salt-water dives, often not
fresh-water rinsed except ONCE every 25 dives (in a week) on
liveaboards, which is customary and standard on many. :-)
The regs have gone well-over another 1,300 of such salt-water
dives without any visible defects in the annual service/maintenance.
If defects should arise, I expect Scubapro would give me ANOTHER
new set under the original Life Time Warranty.
So, the decision was simple for me, and it worked well in practice.
YMMV.
-- Bob.
Greg Mossman - 02 May 2004 07:39 GMT
> The reputation of the company (Scubapro) as well as its history in
> honoring in the "life time warranty" also came into play.
Aren't they owned by the same people who own Uwatec?
Reef Fish - 02 May 2004 11:47 GMT
> > The reputation of the company (Scubapro) as well as its history in
> > honoring in the "life time warranty" also came into play.
>
> Aren't they owned by the same people who own Uwatec?
Did you not notice that "came" is in the past tense?
Are you aware of any case in which Scubapro refused to honor the
Lifetime Warranty of the G250/Mk10 combo when the owner fulilled
his obligation, now, or anytime in the history of the Scubapro
company?
In this day and age of corporate dog-eat-dog, just because one
of the Little Dogs the Big Dog ate turned out to be a rotten
bitch doesn't necessarily mean that the other Little Dogs are
all rotten bitches. :)
-- Bob.
Adam Helberg - 02 May 2004 20:53 GMT
> I'm looking to buy a new regulator set and am between two different models.
> There is a $140 difference in the price between them but the lower cost unit
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> of parts is $35/yr. Would I expect the parts cost to be significantly
> different than that?
My reg is an Oceanic and they are strict about having to maintain yearly service within a
time of anniversary. If you miss the persiod just one year the warranty is void. Needless
to say my warranty voided a long time ago as I'm not that punctual.
Adam