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Uwatec Air Z Nitrox Dive Computer

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Joseph - 28 Apr 2004 00:18 GMT
I'm thinking about buying a Uwatec Air Z Nitrox dive computer.  Anyone have
an opinion on this computer?

Here's a link:

http://www.scubapro.com/products/instruments/air_z_nitrox/air_z_nitrox.asp
Dan Nafe - 28 Apr 2004 02:24 GMT
> I'm thinking about buying a Uwatec Air Z Nitrox dive computer.  Anyone have
> an opinion on this computer?
>
> Here's a link:
>
> http://www.scubapro.com/products/instruments/air_z_nitrox/air_z_nitrox.asp

Works great.

dan@scuba-training.net
http://www.scuba-training.net
Adam Helberg - 28 Apr 2004 06:34 GMT
> I'm thinking about buying a Uwatec Air Z Nitrox dive computer.  Anyone have
> an opinion on this computer?
>
> Here's a link:
>
> http://www.scubapro.com/products/instruments/air_z_nitrox/air_z_nitrox.asp

How does it compare with the Suunto Vytec?
Greg Mossman - 28 Apr 2004 09:09 GMT
> > I'm thinking about buying a Uwatec Air Z Nitrox dive computer.  Anyone have
> > an opinion on this computer?
> >
> > Here's a link:

http://www.scubapro.com/products/instruments/air_z_nitrox/air_z_nitrox.asp

> How does it compare with the Suunto Vytec?

Not as conservative.  No temperature display.
Adam Helberg - 28 Apr 2004 19:28 GMT
> > > I'm thinking about buying a Uwatec Air Z Nitrox dive computer.  Anyone
> have
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>
> Not as conservative.  No temperature display.

Also the Uwatec does not appear to use any graphic display. How about the ascent indicator
on the Uwatec?

Also which wireless is more dependable and anyone know the technical details of modes of
radio transmission?

Adam
Greg Mossman - 28 Apr 2004 20:38 GMT
> Also the Uwatec does not appear to use any graphic display. How about the ascent indicator
> on the Uwatec?

No pretty pictures.  Just a number indicating remaining NDC time.  Ascent
indicator is very sensitive, where a bit of surge can set off the default
alarm.  That alarm can thankfully be turned off, but the low tank pressure
alarm cannot.  The damn thing drives me (and everyone else around me) crazy
when doing a safety stop with 250 psi left.  It's almost enough to make me
want to return to the boat with 500 psi and waste all that good air.  But my
strobe beeps at me a lot too, so now I just let them cancel each other out.

> Also which wireless is more dependable and anyone know the technical details of modes of
> radio transmission?

I've never had a problem with any hoseless computer, but when I'm serious
about it, I'll use two of different types (the other is a "dependable"
Cochran Gemini).  That gives not only backup nitrogen saturation data in
case one computer craps out on a liveaboard, say, but also redundant
pressure gauges, depth, time, etc., without using a single HP hose.  Sure,
it costs a bit more to have two, but as we all know cost is for strokes.
Uwatec goes on left wrist, Cochran sits on a compass/retractor clipped to
the BC.  Dive shop owner is very pleased.
Adam Helberg - 28 Apr 2004 23:31 GMT
> > Also the Uwatec does not appear to use any graphic display. How about the
> ascent indicator
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> Uwatec goes on left wrist, Cochran sits on a compass/retractor clipped to
> the BC.  Dive shop owner is very pleased.

That's amazing. You are the hoseless king. I found this interesting site from Cochran:

http://www.divingbell.com/suuntosays-HP.htm

Can I ask you how you decided which is your primary computer and which is the backup?
Greg Mossman - 28 Apr 2004 23:45 GMT
> Can I ask you how you decided which is your primary computer and which is the backup?

Neither would be either.  Or maybe both are both.

Since they're both in use at the same time, I don't see a need to
distinguish between primary and backup.  But the Uwatec is more conservative
than the Cochran so I would tend to take its advice first or else risk
bending it.  Given how much it beeps even when it's relatively happy, I bet
it would be a real nuisance if I bent it.
Adam Helberg - 29 Apr 2004 00:35 GMT
> > Can I ask you how you decided which is your primary computer and which is
> the backup?
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> bending it.  Given how much it beeps even when it's relatively happy, I bet
> it would be a real nuisance if I bent it.

That makes sense.

I recently bought a Vyper from leisurepro but pondered over the Vytec. I was willing to
reluctantly shell out the extra dough on the hoseless, but so many who use the hoseless
have said it does not fail, *but* they still use a backup. And so the backup complicated
the whole issue for me enough to go with the old style for now.  The Cobra was also out
because I wanted a separate computer for travel when I rent the regulator.  Also, while
the AI may be useful for knowing if there is enough air for deco stop, the deco stop is
shallow anyway and air consumption at shallow depth is easily predictable.

Adam
John Mason Jr. - 29 Apr 2004 01:16 GMT
>> > Can I ask you how you decided which is your primary computer and which
>> > is
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>
> Adam

After  you have a deco obligation is not the time to be deciding whether or
not you have enough gas for the stop.

John
Adam Helberg - 29 Apr 2004 01:57 GMT
> >> > Can I ask you how you decided which is your primary computer and which
> >> > is
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>
> John

True.
 
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