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dan usa and dan europe membership fees differ so much, why ?

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Mario - 26 Apr 2004 18:53 GMT
Hello,

Did I read wrong on the respective web sites of dan usa and dan europe
? or there is a huge difference in price between DAN USA (29 $ ) and
DAN Europe (68 euro) membership fee?

Why this difference, is enourmous, why ? Can I register in DAN USA and
have the same rights even if I am resident in Italia?

Please explain me.

Thanks,

Mario
Pete S. - 26 Apr 2004 21:17 GMT
>Hello,
>
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
>Please explain me.

Ah, that'll be because the dollar is strong against the pound and the
euro. Not.

And what rights would these be?

You could ask DAN Europe direct. I have some E Mail addresses if you
want......

Pete S.
Dave Appleby - 26 Apr 2004 22:11 GMT
> You could ask DAN Europe direct. I have some E Mail addresses if you
> want......
>
> Pete S.

Is this like Jeopardy?

Q: In who's E-Mail address book dothe Italian address start Complaints@
?...

DaveA :-)

Da*n

Google Cache is only picking up the edited site now
http://tinyurl.com/2x37p    :-(
Pete S. - 27 Apr 2004 06:39 GMT
>> You could ask DAN Europe direct. I have some E Mail addresses if you
>> want......
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>Q: In who's E-Mail address book dothe Italian address start Complaints@
>?...

Bugger, you've noticed.

Pete S.
Steve Jones - 27 Apr 2004 13:54 GMT
">

>......
>> >
> >Q: In who's E-Mail address book dothe Italian address start Complaints@
> >?...
> >
> Bugger, you've noticed.

Add to Pete's address book

complaints@dan.com
complaints@weymouth_council.dis-org.uk
Lee Bell - 27 Apr 2004 18:06 GMT
> Did I read wrong on the respective web sites of dan usa and dan europe
> ? or there is a huge difference in price between DAN USA (29 $ ) and
> DAN Europe (68 euro) membership fee?
> Why this difference, is enourmous, why ? Can I register in DAN USA and
> have the same rights even if I am resident in Italia?

The explanation will have to come from DAN, both the American division and
the European one.  I did some research to see what I could figure out.
There are a few hints, but nothing certain, at least nothing I know enough
to identify.

1. DAN America is associated with Duke University.  The university medical
department, which has it's own funding,  provides a lot of the medical
support for Dan's operation.  That may or may not be the case in the UK.

2. DAN America is a non profit organization.  That has special meaning here
in the U.S.  Contributions to DAN are deductible from income for federal
income tax purposes.  You may assume that DAN gets a lot more contributions
because those contributions reduce the amount of income tax paid.  For every
dollar I contribute to DAN or any of many other tax deductible charities and
organizations, I get about 38% back in reduced tax.

3. Dan America is roughly 50% supported by membership dues.  As the country
that has more active divers than any place else in the world, DAN America
does not need to charge a lot to get by.  Remember, they're not for profit.
While this does not mean that they aren't interested in income, it does mean
that they aren't as pressured to more than meet expenses than investor
funded corporations.

4. Depending on the tax consequences, there may also be a bit of parking of
profits involved.  I don't know the corporate tax laws in the UK, but here,
corporations pay considerably higher rates than individuals.  If the reverse
is true in the UK, the increased cost there may be at least partly a tax
dodge.

I suspect that the difference is a combination of the reduced cost thanks to
university support, the availability of contributions thanks to tax
deductions and the economy of scale that comes from having so many U.SO.
customers.

Then again, it might just be that DAN Europe is ripping you off because they
can.

Lee
Dave Appleby - 27 Apr 2004 18:46 GMT
> Then again, it might just be that DAN Europe is ripping you off because they
> can.
>
> Lee

Careful Lee,

They'll let the lawyers off the lead!

DaveA :-)
Lee Bell - 27 Apr 2004 19:41 GMT
> > Then again, it might just be that DAN Europe is ripping you off because they
> > can.
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> They'll let the lawyers off the lead!

Works for me.  Anybody that rips others off just because they can, deserves
a bout with the attorneys, particularly when it's divers getting ripped off.

Lee.
Charlie Hammond - 27 Apr 2004 20:24 GMT
Ignoring Lees, "it might just be that DAN Europe is ripping you off"
(and it would really sadden me if DAN is doing this!)
I can't believ that the explainations offered make up the difference.

Has anyone asked DAN for an explaination?

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