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Scuba Forum / General / April 2004stents
any one know about diving with stent from artery blockage > any one know about diving with stent from artery blockage Yes.  Signature"We're going to rush the hijackers." -Jeremy Glick, aboard United Airlines flight 93, September 11, 2001 > ? any one know about diving with stent from artery blockage > ? > ? > > Yes. Oh my god. That's so witty. You took the guy's question literally. MAN, now THAT is a leap in thinking. > > ? any one know about diving with stent from artery blockage > > ? [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Oh my god. That's so witty. You took the guy's question > literally. MAN, now THAT is a leap in thinking. he answered the question, perfectly. >> > ? any one know about diving with stent from artery blockage >> > ? [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > >he answered the question, perfectly. Gave a totally correct answer that provided no information. Must be tech support at MS. Signaturedillon When I was a kid, I thought the angel's name was Hark and the horse's name was Bob. > >> > ? any one know about diving with stent from artery blockage > >> > ? [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Gave a totally correct answer that provided no information. He didn't ask for information, peanut. He asked if anyone here knew anything about diving with a stent, and I do. Now, since you obviously have a problem with that, why don't you tell us just what the f.ck you think he wanted to know? Oh, gee, you can't, can you? You don't know what he wanted to know, do you? Why? Half the battle is the question, wee one. Learning 101. Look it up. Learn or die. We don't care what you choose. Now sit down and shut the f.ck up. When we're ready for coffee, someone will hit you. Signature"We're going to rush the hijackers." -Jeremy Glick, aboard United Airlines flight 93, September 11, 2001 >> >> > ? any one know about diving with stent from artery blockage >> >> > ? [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] > >When we're ready for coffee, someone will hit you. Piss off a.s wipe. Can't spot a little joke? Of course, you've contributed greatly to this NG over the years, haven't you? Signaturedillon When I was a kid, I thought the angel's name was Hark and the horse's name was Bob. > Piss off a.s wipe. Can't spot a little joke? Of course, you've > contributed greatly to this NG over the years, haven't you? You belong to me, now. Signature"We're going to rush the hijackers." -Jeremy Glick, aboard United Airlines flight 93, September 11, 2001 >>? >> > ? any one know about diving with stent from artery blockage This reminds me of the old story about the man with a broken arm. He asked his doctor if he would be able to play the violin after his arm healed. The docor said that it was a clean break and would heal well enough that he could play the violin. "That is amazing!" the man told the doctor. "I couldn't play the violin BEFORE I broke my arm." <big-grin> .... As many people have said, check with your doctor. If you are cleared for physical activity in general, I don't know of any contraindication for diving with stents implated. But your surgeon and your personal physician are the ones who know your particular condition and circumstances. They get paid enough; let them answer your questions. SignatureCharlie Hammond -- Hewlett-Packard Company -- Ft Lauderdale FL USA (hammond@not@peek.ssr.hp.com -- remove "@not" when replying) All opinions expressed are my own and not necessarily my employer's. A buddy of mine is diving with stents. Doc said for him, no problem. I would guess it is on an individual basis and the personal doctor should be consulted on it. He had to be "cleaned" again this year. >>? any one know about diving with stent from artery blockage >>? [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Oh my god. That's so witty. You took the guy's question > literally. MAN, now THAT is a leap in thinking. > > ? any one know about diving with stent from artery blockage > > ? [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Oh my god. That's so witty. You took the guy's question > literally. MAN, now THAT is a leap in thinking. Yes, it was a literal answer, but entirely correct for the query. Now if the fellow had asked "Can anyone tell me about the safety of diving after stent placement?" he might have received a more expanded answer such as this one: There is a real risk of renarrowing in the stent. Most of these renarrowings occur within the first six months post-procedure. In a review of 1084 patients who underwent follow-up angiography six months after stent placement, the incidence of restenosis was as low as 16 percent in the absence of any risk factors (diabetes, multiple stents, and minimal luminal diameter after stenting <3 mm), and as high as 59 percent when at least three factors were present. Divers should wait six months before resuming diving. They should be on a good cardiac conditioning program during this interim time. They should then follow-up with their cardiologist and have a treadmill stress test or cardiolyte stress test to be sure that the heart's blood flow is adequate. Most cardiologists consider 12 minutes on a standard Bruce protocol stress test is indicative of pretty good coronary performance. Controlling other coronary artery risk factors is a must. Weight loss, diabetes control, hypertension control, and throwing away those damned cigarettes are imperative. So can divers who have had stents placed resume diving? Sure, jump in, there are no PADI Stent Police out there. Can they do safe diving? Sure, do the above. Buck Dr. Randy, please forgive the top post here. I recently heard where they are having some success with coating the stents with an enzyme that is designed to prevent such quick post-op blockage. Just throwing in that comment as an FYI sorta thing, not that it changes the answer that you gave. > Yes, it was a literal answer, but entirely correct for the query. Now if > the fellow had asked "Can anyone tell me about the safety of diving after [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > > Buck > Dr. Randy, please forgive the top post here. I recently heard where > they are having some success with coating the stents with an enzyme [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > > > > Buck Top post, bottom post, who cares? They are doing a host of things with stents to try and prevent occlusion. They have tried Heparin-coated stents, polytetrafluoroethylene (PTFE) coated stents, gold-coated stents, radioactive stents, and who knows what else. Work is still in progress > Top post, bottom post, who cares? > Probably no one. > They are doing a host of things with > stents to try and prevent occlusion. They have tried Heparin-coated stents, > polytetrafluoroethylene (PTFE) coated stents, gold-coated stents, > radioactive stents, and who knows what else. Work is still in progress Yep... and it's this new progress with the enzyme that seems to be the current thing. Tests are said to be positive after 2 yrs. We'll see. > > > ? any one know about diving with stent from artery blockage > > > ? [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > diameter after stenting <3 mm), and as high as 59 percent when at least > three factors were present. Divers should wait six months before resuming > diving. Can I ask you why the wait if the diver passes the exercise stress test? > > > > ? any one know about diving with stent from artery blockage > > > > ? [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > > Can I ask you why the wait if the diver passes the exercise stress test? Good question Adam, and not one that I can answer with authority. Through readings on the subject I see that restenosis is most common out to 6 months. Can you go for four months, get a passing stress test, then go diving? Good chance, but I'd lay it on the cardiologists footsteps/ DAN. I always say DAN, but the one time that I needed their help with one of my patients, they never responded to two of my emails. They lost a bit of credibility with me after that. I check regular medical resources now. > Good chance, but I'd lay it on the cardiologists footsteps/ DAN. I wouldn't, and I didn't. DAN doesn't know anything about stents. Signature"We're going to rush the hijackers." -Jeremy Glick, aboard United Airlines flight 93, September 11, 2001 > ? Good chance, but I'd lay it on the cardiologists footsteps/ DAN. > > I wouldn't, and I didn't. > > DAN doesn't know anything about stents. Put that stint in with your Kabar, did you? Who the hell needs Dan, eh? > Put that stint in with your Kabar, did you? f.ck Kabars. Kabars are for posers. > Who the hell needs Dan, eh? No one with a dive emergency, that's for sure. Signature"We're going to rush the hijackers." -Jeremy Glick, aboard United Airlines flight 93, September 11, 2001 >> > > > ? any one know about diving with stent from artery blockage >> > > > ? [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] >> >> Can I ask you why the wait if the diver passes the exercise stress test? Just asked my MIL (who has a stent). She was told that the stress test a 4 months was not "definitive" (ask a doctor what that word means, I sure don't know), but that the test at 7 months was a good indicator on the success of the placement. Although they did not do so in her case, she has heard of some patients who had an angiogram at 6-7 months. >Good question Adam, and not one that I can answer with authority. Through >readings on the subject I see that restenosis is most common out to 6 >months. Can you go for four months, get a passing stress test, then go >diving? Good chance, but I'd lay it on the cardiologists footsteps/ DAN. I agreee, the real answer lies with one's own doctor. Although the many posters on this NG are all well trained medical professionals, there's nothing like actually being charged for an opinion :-) >I always say DAN, but the one time that I needed their help with one of my >patients, they never responded to two of my emails. They lost a bit of >credibility with me after that. I check regular medical resources now. Whenever one of my docs writes me a prescription, I always ask about it's affects at depth. The answer is almost always same. "No research". What's really silly is that all the drugs come with the warning "may cause drowsiness". My Wellbutrin says that side affects may include "restlessness, lack of sleep and mild aggressiveness" and "may cause drowsiness". Signaturedillon When I was a kid, I thought the angel's name was Hark and the horse's name was Bob. > >> > > > ? any one know about diving with stent from artery blockage > >> > > > ? [quoted text clipped - 55 lines] > may include "restlessness, lack of sleep and mild aggressiveness" and > "may cause drowsiness". After you use a drug for a while you should be aware of how it affects you and whether you can dive with it or not. Reading all the possible side effects of a drug really does not tell you if you are going to have any of those effects. I may be wrong but I don't think there is any drug that is known to be unusable just because of depth. Adam > After you use a drug for a while you should be aware of how it affects you and whether you > can dive with it or not. Reading all the possible side effects of a drug really does not > tell you if you are going to have any of those effects. I may be wrong but I don't think > there is any drug that is known to be unusable just because of depth. What about nitrous oxide? I don't see much underwater dentistry going on. > > After you use a drug for a while you should be aware of how it affects you > and whether you [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > What about nitrous oxide? I don't see much underwater dentistry going on. Alright, drugs that are not gases. > any one know about diving with stent from artery blockage Yep. Your doctor will know about it. Talk to him. I have a friend who was recenently certified as fit to lead a local police dive team after having been diagnosed with substantial blockage. His stent (sp?) placement was a problem, but finally worked out OK. He took a stress test that inidicated he was, once again, fully functional and is back at work full time. This is a pretty good indication that diving after such a procedures is possible, but that's all it is. Talk to your doctor. Lee > any one know about diving with stent from artery blockage I agree you should ask your cardiologist. The stent takes about 6 weeks to reendotheliolize and then it presumably behaves like a normal artery. You should have an exercise stress test before diving. You can also ask your question on http://www.diversalertnetwork.org/contact/email.asp?re=Medicine Adam |
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