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Scuba Forum / General / April 2004Diving in BC
I'm gonna be moving to BC soon. What's the water temps like there compared to Newfoundland (0-7 Celcius)? Wondering if I should bring my 7mm. Thanks. >I'm gonna be moving to BC soon. > >What's the water temps like there compared to Newfoundland (0-7 Celcius)? > >Wondering if I should bring my 7mm. To wear under your drysuit?? > >I'm gonna be moving to BC soon. > > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > To wear under your drysuit?? ***** Dennis I live on Vancouver Island in BC, and I was hoping to start training and learning so I can dive, any recommendations on where/when/how much is a reasonable price, pretty much any information at all, websites is appreciated. > > >I'm gonna be moving to BC soon. > > > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Dennis > I live on Vancouver Island in BC, and I was hoping to start training and > learning so I can dive, any recommendations on where/when/how much is a > reasonable price, pretty much any information at all, websites is > appreciated. Sundown in Nanaimo. www.sundowndiving.com Brian Edmonton, Alberta www.mossmanscuba.com > > I live on Vancouver Island in BC, and I was hoping to start training and > > learning so I can dive, any recommendations on where/when/how much is a > > reasonable price, pretty much any information at all, websites is > > appreciated. > > Sundown in Nanaimo. www.sundowndiving.com thanks. > Brian > Edmonton, Alberta > www.mossmanscuba.com Reyd <Reyd@shaw.ca> pounded away at his keyboard resulting in: :I live on Vancouver Island in BC, and I was hoping to start training and :learning so I can dive, any recommendations on where/when/how much is a :reasonable price, pretty much any information at all, websites is :appreciated. I suggest that you find classes close to where you live. Dan Bracuk If at first you don't succeed, you run the risk of failure. The Best of rec.scuba http://www.pathcom.com/~bracuk/RecScuba/ > Reyd <Reyd@shaw.ca> pounded away at his keyboard resulting in: > :I live on Vancouver Island in BC, and I was hoping to start training and [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > I suggest that you find classes close to where you live. but is there any pointers I should look for to see if it is a good class, or will teach incorrectly? > Dan Bracuk > If at first you don't succeed, you run the risk of failure. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! > -----== Over 100,000 Newsgroups - 19 Different Servers! =----- > but is there any pointers I should look for to see if it is a good > class, or will teach incorrectly? Yup. Beware PADI or NAUI.  Signature"We're going to rush the hijackers." -Jeremy Glick, aboard United Airlines flight 93, September 11, 2001 > € but is there any pointers I should look for to see if it is a good > € class, or will teach incorrectly? > > Yup. Beware PADI or NAUI. Yeah... beware of the largest certifying agencies. IF they were that bad, and divers were dying all over the place, you would know it. There are good and bad instructors in all agencies. You interview them, since, basically, you will be trusting them with your life. Find one that answers your questions and you feel comfortable with. Then go get trained! #Jammer Six wrote: #> In article <Reyd-9FBF0E.21015821042004@shawnews.gv.shawcable.net>, Reyd #> <Reyd@shaw.ca> wrote: #> #> but is there any pointers I should look for to see if it is a good #> class, or will teach incorrectly? #> #> Yup. Beware PADI or NAUI. # #Yeah... beware of the largest certifying agencies. IF they were that #bad, and divers were dying all over the place, you would know it. #There are good and bad instructors in all agencies. You interview them, #since, basically, you will be trusting them with your life. Find one #that answers your questions and you feel comfortable with. Then go get #trained! # So how does someone who knows nothing about diving go about interviewing prospective instructors? I know some lousy instructors who talk a good game, especially with newbies. It's only by really digging into their knowledge that you realize they don't know what they're talking about. How would a newbie be able to ask these kind of questions? GUE is an organization that has a much higher percentage of great instructors than either NAUI or PADI. Even their "bad" instructor is pretty good at the basic level (just don't let him "teach" you deco and mixed gas theory). Unfortunately, GUE doesn't do a basic certification, so the next best thing is to find a shop that teaches GUE and take their basic certification (usually SSI taught by GUE instructors). Alan Street <alan@nonono_irsi.com> pounded away at his keyboard resulting in: :GUE is an organization that has a much higher percentage of great :instructors than either NAUI or PADI. Even their "bad" instructor is :pretty good at the basic level (just don't let him "teach" you deco and :mixed gas theory). Unfortunately, GUE doesn't do a basic certification, :so the next best thing is to find a shop that teaches GUE and take :their basic certification (usually SSI taught by GUE instructors). Those are few and far between. Dan Bracuk If at first you don't succeed, you run the risk of failure. The Best of rec.scuba http://www.pathcom.com/~bracuk/RecScuba/ > GUE is an organization that has a much higher percentage of great > instructors than either NAUI or PADI. Even their "bad" instructor is > pretty good at the basic level (just don't let him "teach" you deco and > mixed gas theory). Unfortunately, GUE doesn't do a basic certification, > so the next best thing is to find a shop that teaches GUE and take > their basic certification (usually SSI taught by GUE instructors). But that still doesn't guarantee quality. If you take a basic open water class from FifthD, for example, are you guaranteed to have Andrew G. as your instructor? > > GUE is an organization that has a much higher percentage of great > > instructors than either NAUI or PADI. Even their "bad" instructor is [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > class from FifthD, for example, are you guaranteed to have Andrew G. as your > instructor? Probably not since Andrew isn't based out of FifthD anymore. I'm not even sure he still owns the place. Brian Edmonton, Alberta > > But that still doesn't guarantee quality. If you take a basic open water > > class from FifthD, for example, are you guaranteed to have Andrew G. as your > > instructor? > > Probably not since Andrew isn't based out of FifthD anymore. I'm not > even sure he still owns the place. There you go. >>>But that still doesn't guarantee quality. If you take a basic open > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > There you go. So, you spent all your time tracking down these GUE people. They'll tell you were to get basic, because they can't teach it. And, you don't even know if their certs are accepted nation wide. I am sure that you will find many shops that will say "GUE, who are they? Got a PADI, SSI, SDI, TDI, ANDI, YMCA, BSAC, NAUI, etc card?" #Greg Mossman wrote: # #> "Brian Nadwidny" <nadwidny@excite.com> wrote in message #> news:40886583.8E1F47E2@excite.com... #> #> #>>>But that still doesn't guarantee quality. If you take a basic open #> #> water #> #>>>class from FifthD, for example, are you guaranteed to have Andrew G. as #> #> your #> #>>>instructor? #>> #>>Probably not since Andrew isn't based out of FifthD anymore. I'm not #>>even sure he still owns the place. #> #> #> There you go. # #So, you spent all your time tracking down these GUE people. They'll tell #you were to get basic, because they can't teach it. And, you don't even #know if their certs are accepted nation wide. #I am sure that you will find many shops that will say "GUE, who are #they? Got a PADI, SSI, SDI, TDI, ANDI, YMCA, BSAC, NAUI, etc card?" # Any shop that doesn't know about GUE probably isn't one I'd want to dive with. > #Greg Mossman wrote: > # [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > #they? Got a PADI, SSI, SDI, TDI, ANDI, YMCA, BSAC, NAUI, etc card?" > # > Any shop that doesn't know about GUE probably isn't one I'd want to > dive with. Sure. > #Jammer Six wrote: > #> In article <Reyd-9FBF0E.21015821042004@shawnews.gv.shawcable.net>, Reyd [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > talking about. How would a newbie be able to ask these kind of > questions? How about talking to some the the students they trained? Sure there are those that talk a good game, but you still have to make a decision. And as you said, research first. Look, the original poster made it to the internet and here. There is an abundance of information on the net. And, not hard to find. > GUE is an organization that has a much higher percentage of great > instructors than either NAUI or PADI. Even their "bad" instructor is > pretty good at the basic level (just don't let him "teach" you deco and > mixed gas theory). Unfortunately, GUE doesn't do a basic certification, > so the next best thing is to find a shop that teaches GUE and take > their basic certification (usually SSI taught by GUE instructors). So, the question was.. where to go. You can't go to GUE because they don't do basic. GUE is not the end all be all in diving. Millions... get this now...... MILLIONS have been diving before GUE ever existed. And, diving successfully doing all sorts of different type diving. GUE is just an agency. Can you use your GUE card all over the world to go diving? PADI and others you can. > ? but is there any pointers I should look for to see if it is a good > ? class, or will teach incorrectly? > > Yup. Beware PADI or NAUI. that is what sundowndiving offers, whats wrong with them? From Reyd : but is there any pointers I should look for to see if it is a good : class, or will teach incorrectly? Since you appear to have choice of dive shops or clubs close to home, we can start to look at other considerations. First of all, realize that dive students survive in droves. Ain't nobody out there who is gonna kill you with poor training. Then, look at your own needs and aspirations, and compare them to what is being offered. For example: Are classes being offered when you are available to take them? Once certified, do you plan to dive locally? If not, consider taking the classes close to home and certifying in the tropics. What do you pay, and what do you get for your money? What you get will be a combination of class time, pool time, and equipment to use. This will vary from shop to shop. If a shop charges extra for the certification dives, they are being fair. You may wish to certify in the tropics, so why pay for local dives? > From Reyd > : but is there any pointers I should look for to see if it is a good [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > Once certified, do you plan to dive locally? If not, consider taking the > classes close to home and certifying in the tropics. why in the tropics? > -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- > http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! > -----== Over 100,000 Newsgroups - 19 Different Servers! =----- Reyd <Reyd@shaw.ca> pounded away at his keyboard resulting in: :why in the tropics? Because if you are not planning to dive locally, the tropics are likely to be where you plan to dive. Dan Bracuk If at first you don't succeed, you run the risk of failure. The Best of rec.scuba http://www.pathcom.com/~bracuk/RecScuba/ > Reyd <Reyd@shaw.ca> pounded away at his keyboard resulting in: > :why in the tropics? > > Because if you are not planning to dive locally, the tropics are > likely to be where you plan to dive. ah, thanks I think it would be local, going to the tropics would be too expensive. > Dan Bracuk > If at first you don't succeed, you run the risk of failure. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! > -----== Over 100,000 Newsgroups - 19 Different Servers! =----- spunktastica@hotmail.com (Sean) pounded away at his keyboard resulting in: :I'm gonna be moving to BC soon. : :What's the water temps like there compared to Newfoundland (0-7 Celcius)? Slightly warmer. Dan Bracuk If at first you don't succeed, you run the risk of failure. The Best of rec.scuba http://www.pathcom.com/~bracuk/RecScuba/ > I'm gonna be moving to BC soon. > > What's the water temps like there compared to Newfoundland (0-7 Celcius)? A bit warmer and not so variable. Usually 8-10C. > Wondering if I should bring my 7mm. You dive Nfld in a wetsuit? Must be all that Screech. Ditch the wetsuit. Get a drysuit. Brian Edmonton, Alberta > > I'm gonna be moving to BC soon. > > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > You dive Nfld in a wetsuit? Must be all that Screech. Nah not always a wetsuit. I use a 3mm shorty in summer... well for snorkelling anyway 8-). Went diving last weekend and had to change locations because the road to the planned wharf was blocked with snow. Looking forward to the land of perpetual rain but no snow. > Ditch the wetsuit. Get a drysuit. Sure as soon as I trip over a large pile of money. I only paid off my friggin back inflated BC a couple of months ago. Next purchase is going to have to be a reg I think. I have a dacor now that I really like but I can't get it serviced on the Rock. Maybe I'll have more luck in BC. What's the dive shop situation like in BC anyway? I'm assuming there must be alot more choice than the 2 dive shops we have in St. John's. > Brian > Edmonton, Alberta > > Ditch the wetsuit. Get a drysuit. > > Sure as soon as I trip over a large pile of money. Stop in at some of the manufacturers (I can think of at least 4 off the top of my head in the Vancouver/Vancouver Island area) and see if they have any deals. Sometimes you can get a suit cheap by going directly through them (returns, demos, rentals, etc.). If you're working in the water you will need a drysuit. >I only paid off my > friggin back inflated BC a couple of months ago. Next purchase is going to > have to be a reg I think. I have a dacor now that I really like but I can't > get it serviced on the Rock. Maybe I'll have more luck in BC. Depending on how old it is you may be screwed in BC as well. Dacor doesn't support their older regs. > What's the dive shop situation like in BC anyway? I'm assuming there must be > alot more choice than the 2 dive shops we have in St. John's. A few more shops but like diveshops everywhere, they all suck. Except for Sundown in Nanaimo. Ed's a good guy. Brian Edmonton, Alberta #sean wrote: # #> > Ditch the wetsuit. Get a drysuit. #> #> Sure as soon as I trip over a large pile of money. # #Stop in at some of the manufacturers (I can think of at least 4 off the #top of my head in the Vancouver/Vancouver Island area) and see if they #have any deals. Sometimes you can get a suit cheap by going directly #through them (returns, demos, rentals, etc.). If you're working in the #water you will need a drysuit. I picked up a used TLS350 for $400 on e-bay. If you're going to be working, it doesn't have to be new or pretty. > > > Ditch the wetsuit. Get a drysuit. > > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > through them (returns, demos, rentals, etc.). If you're working in the > water you will need a drysuit. Woops, I didn't mean to give the impression that I'll be working in the water. Purely recreational diving for me. Thanks for the advice though.Drysuit is definitly on my list. > >I only paid off my > > friggin back inflated BC a couple of months ago. Next purchase is going to [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > Brian > Edmonton, Alberta Water temps vary depending on exactly where you are and the time of year. In general temps are a little warmer then Nfld (6C-12C). Many divers go dry. I find that too warm (unless I'm going real deep), so I usually stick to a 7mm. Where in BC are you heading? Bryan >I'm gonna be moving to BC soon. > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >Thanks. > Not sure yet, hooking up with an aquaculture outfit. Think I'll be based in Campbell River. I think the 7 mm will work out just fine. > Water temps vary depending on exactly where you are and the time of > year. In general temps are a little warmer then Nfld (6C-12C). Many [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > > >Thanks. > Not sure yet, hooking up with an aquaculture outfit. Think I'll be based in Campbell River. You are a dog, and I am green with envy. >Not sure yet, hooking up with an aquaculture outfit. Think I'll be based in >Campbell >River. > >I think the 7 mm will work out just fine. The 7 mill won't be unbearable for the first dive of the day, but it will often cheat you out of a second & third dive in a day. If you try to use it for work, fixing nets and the such, you're gonna be hating it fast. Beaver Aquatics: Campbell River http://www.connected.bc.ca/~baquatics/ Aquatech West, Campbell River http://www.aquatechwest.com/ There are lots more shops all over the island http://www.coastalbc.com/dive/shops.htm Cam http://www.CoastalBC.com/ http://www.SurfingVancouverIsland.com/ >I'm gonna be moving to BC soon. > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >Thanks. Depends where, when, and how deep: Barkley Sound (West Coast Vancouver Island) March 7: 7.0 degrees Gulf of Georgia, Comox to Nanaimo, March 14 - March 16: 6.9 degrees Prince Rupert (North Coast), March 30 - April 4: 5.1 to 5.6 degrees Queen Charlotte Islands, April 4 - April 9: 6.3 - 7.2 degrees In the Gulf it's generally unusual to run into anything approaching 4 degrees in the winter, unless you're diving at the head of some of the mainland inlets in a layer of glacier meltwater. Summer temperatures in the upper 10 metres commonly run between 11 and 17 degrees. There's lots of good diving between 5 and 7 degrees. Once the water warms the plankton bloom sets in and visibility becomes "less than ideal". Bring the wetsuit. They're great for surfing off Tofino. Charles, I had to replace a hard drive and lost your contact info, please ping me. You should have your stuff by now... Scott > >I'm gonna be moving to BC soon. > > [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > > Bring the wetsuit. They're great for surfing off Tofino. >Charles, > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >Scott Will do, as soon as I get back to the office on Tuesday. I'm at home right now drying out. I did check my voice mail a week and a half ago when I was in Prince Rupert, within cell range, and after I had the unreasonable luck to find a charger in a local shop for my ancient Motorola StarTac so I could deal with the failed battery problem (the joys of field work). There was a message from our warehouseman wondering what he should do with the 90 pound package. Sounds promising. I'm looking forward to getting back to the lab. I love new toys, especially shiny ones. :) > Will do, as soon as I get back to the office on Tuesday. I'm at home > right now drying out. I did check my voice mail a week and a half ago [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > wondering what he should do with the 90 pound package. Sounds > promising. Yeah, rough duty. Out there in Mother Natures own back yard, diving places many of us will never see. My heart bleeds for you. There better be two of them, with total weight of just over 90#. I got an interesting phone call from a nice lady at the border somewhere . She wanted to know what they were and who, exactly, made them. She seemed very tense and suspicious. This is a first. I have never heard a peep from any customs ever before. This one called me at home, at night. We chatted for a bit about what they were, and how I came to make them for a government employee, until I started talking about a little of the gun work I do for SWAT guys and such, and the conversation went cold and she let me go. =;-) Probably got both boxes searched *real* good. I'd also wager that she will remember talking to me. > I'm looking forward to getting back to the lab. I love new toys, > especially shiny ones. :) I am looking forward to you getting your stuff, like you cant imagine. 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