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Scuba Forum / General / April 2004USS Oriskany (CVA-34)
USS Oriskany (CVA-34) When and where are they going to sink this boat? I've heard Miami, GA/SC offshore state line area, Destin/Pensacola, Texas/Corpus-Cristi area. Anyone have an update or anything? Sounds like Pensacola's the winner... http://www.tallahassee.com/mld/tallahassee/news/breaking_news/8361059.htm >USS Oriskany (CVA-34) > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > >Anyone have an update or anything? Hopefully they'll do a better job than the "Circus crew" who was running the sinking(flipping) of the Spiegal Grove > Sounds like Pensacola's the winner... > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > > >Anyone have an update or anything? hi Mike, I live in Corpus Christi and heard on the news the other day it's going to Pensacola...I was hoping she would stay around here since we have the Lexington topside, we could have the Oriskany below! Either way it will be nice to be able to dive a US carrier close by. Hope that helps! > USS Oriskany (CVA-34) > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Anyone have an update or anything? > hi Mike, I live in Corpus Christi and heard on the news the other day it's > going to Pensacola...I was hoping she would stay around here since we have > the Lexington topside, we could have the Oriskany below! Either way it will > be nice to be able to dive a US carrier close by. Hope that helps! I'm doubting that most people won't dive it. Based on the depth they have announced they will sink it. If they sink it in 212-220 feet of water, then the flight deck will be somewhere around 120 feet to 130 feet deep. That will put it out of reach of most recreational divers. For those who do dive it, you'll on have around 10 or 12 minutes of bottom time on air. They are planning on removing the super-structure, or at least parts or most of it. Perhaps some of it will be left as their permit for sinking it required them to have at least 55 feet of clearance from the surface to the wreck. It's going to be around 22 miles from the Pensacola inlet and around 30 miles from the Destin Pass inlet. So it'll be an all day boat trip, tying up the dive boat all day thus increasing the per-trip-price. So basically it's going to be an all day boat trip at double the cost for two dives around 10 minutes each (+/-). So I doubt that it will be dove as much as it could be based on it's location and the other stated factors. They also think it will have an annual ecnomic impact of about $92 million per year. Maybe so if you could reach the flight deck in under 100 feet, but right now I just don't see it. > > USS Oriskany (CVA-34) > > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > > > Anyone have an update or anything? But easy for techies who will go even at the greater cost if there is more than a flight deck to look at. Leave the hanger deck (hmmm. any surplus aircraft that can go down with it?) accesible along with some passageway to explore and it would be a great dive. At 910-feet by 150-feet, it dwarfs the Spiegal Grove, the Andrea Doria and is even larger than the Saratoga and Nagato at Bikini Atoll. This will be the largest diveable wreck in the world. I'm not suggesting leaving it wide open to all decks, Essex class (and generally all carriers) are mazes of tight passageways that can confuse even crewmembers. It would easily become a deathtrap for divers if left wide open. Those passageways make most cave systems look like an interstate highway, complete with exit signs. But leave some of the island, the hanger deck, cut some holes into the (sealed off) engine room and some other key areas. It would make for one hellof a fun dive on doubles with the right mix. You could dive the engine room, then have a deco stop in the hanger and another on the island. There are several Essex/Ticondaroga class floating museums around the country for folks wanting to see what is being sunk -- USS Yorktown - Charlston, SC USS Intrepid -NYC USS Hornet - Alameda, CA USS Lexington - Corpus Christi, TX Here's a good web site with ship diagrams to give an idea of the ship as well -- http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ship/cv-9.htm Ron > If they sink it in 212-220 feet of water, then the flight > deck will be somewhere around 120 feet to 130 feet deep. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > to have at least 55 feet of clearance from the surface > to the wreck. > But easy for techies who will go even at the greater cost if there is > more than a flight deck to look at. [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > Here's a good web site with ship diagrams to give an idea of the ship as > well -- http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ship/cv-9.htm I think they might leave some of the island, but not sure how much. As for other carriers being sunk. I doubt any of the floating museums listed above will be sunk, but they do have a list of other large ships to be sunk as the paperwork and environmental issues get completed. I think this includes the Forrestal and the Independence, which I think are even bigger than the Oriskany. The Vandenberg is supposed to be sunk off Key West sometime also. They are trying to raise the $2.2 million to pay for the costs of permits, cleaning, sinking, etc. Hopefully they won't use the same idiots who flipped the Spiegal Grove. Oh,...... the Vandenberg is about 520 feet long, which is slightly longer than the Spiegal Grove is and I think they plan to leave it's huge 40+ foot radar dishes intact. > Ron > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > to have at least 55 feet of clearance from the surface > > to the wreck. > I think they might leave some of the island, but not sure how much. What is currently on the ship could be left and it should be deep enough. > As for other carriers being sunk. I doubt any of the floating > museums listed above will be sunk, I would hope not; did not mean to imply they would. > but they do have a list of > other large ships to be sunk as the paperwork and environmental > issues get completed. I think this includes the Forrestal and > the Independence, which I think are even bigger than the Oriskany. Forrestal is slated for a museum, Tampa tried to get it but didn't have the funding. I think Baltimore may be in line for it. The Independence may be slated for sinking, if so it would be larger by nearly 100-feet |
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